I do. The rhetoric doesn't seem bad between the camps. Both know the alternatives ain't that great. Mayweather vs Mosley did roughly the same as Pac vs Cotto. Roach is making positive comments. Stories like this only help...
http://www.examiner.com/x-5699-Boxing-Examiner~y2010m5d5-Optimistic-Arum-We-can-make-MayweatherPacquiao-for-November
It's Marley I know, but it's more of a report than an opinion piece. I just feel like this time, it's really going to happen. They both need this. Berto, Bradley, and Marg just won't cut it.
both sides taking a hard stance... this fight isn't gonna get made this year... maybe not ever. for the fight to happen, floyd might have to go broke first.
I think your wrong. Everything I've read so far tells me that they have a better chance of getting it done now more than last time.
both sides taking a hard stance... this fight isn't gonna get made this year... maybe not ever. for the fight to happen, floyd might have to go broke first.
it's like when the mosley fight was made, floyd had nowhere else to turn to and mosley just became available. the fight was kinda forced on floyd, and now, floyd and pac are being forced on each other.
Floyd would of fought the Mosley-Berto winner regardless. He'd mentioned fighting Mosley as a plan B earlier, and tried to fight Mosley in 1999 and 2006. Mosley refused to fight both times.
I pretty sure the chance of this fight happening is the same as it was the first time around. Why would anybody think PBF will bend on his random testing stance? Why would PBF agree to a cutoff date? With his win over Shane, he basically put himself in the drivers seat. The Pacquiao camp should take a fight with the USADA testing (no cutoff date) before they attempt to set anything up with PBF. This will at least let them experience and know what it's like and how much of an effect it will have on Pac. If all goes well and it turns out it isn't such a big deal, sign PBF up. I hate to say it but this fight won't happen unless it goes Mayweather's way.
But there's nowhere else to turn. Marg won't be liscened in the U.S. (deservedly), they said no to Berto for some reason, Bradley is a dangerous fight for them, and I'm sure Arum knows people ain't paying for Pac vs Cotto 2. Valero was their back up plan. He was going to fight once at 140 against Lamont, and if he won, he'd get a Pac fight. Now they have no where else to turn.
it's like when the mosley fight was made, floyd had nowhere else to turn to and mosley just became available. the fight was kinda forced on floyd, and now, floyd and pac are being forced on each other.
Na, Team Pac doesn't want their cash cow milked and exposed before the masses. They wont make this fight until they feel Pac can no longer be beneficial as far as mega revenues are concerned, and then they'll throw him to the lions. The lion in this case.
But there's nowhere else to turn. Marg won't be liscened in the U.S. (deservedly), they said no to Berto for some reason, Bradley is a dangerous fight for them, and I'm sure Arum knows people ain't paying for Pac vs Cotto 2. Valero was their back up plan. He was going to fight once at 140 against Lamont, and if he won, he'd get a Pac fight. Now they have no where else to turn.
Na, Team Pac doesn't want their cash cow milked and exposed before the masses. They wont make this fight until they feel Pac can no longer be beneficial as far as mega revenues are concerned, and then they'll throw him to the lions. The lion in this case.
i guess it did lose a little bit of steam but it's still the #1 fight that needs to be made. but if the blood testing is not the problem, money is gonna be the next issue that going to delay this fight. the clottey ppv didn't break 1mill and i think we can safely assume that the mosley fight went well past 1mill so i think it's gonna take another try after this one for either side to budge towards an agreement. i hate to be a pessimist but it's just how i see it. but if it does get made before the year ends, it will be the best xmas present ever for 2010.
I think we'll all get the best xmas present for 2010. Arum actually praised Mayweather in a story. The purse won't be a problem since Mayweather vs Mosley did about the same as Pac vs Cotto. Also, neither party has good immediate alternatives, unlike last time, so I think that they’ll be a little more patience to wait for a compromise on the blood testing issue. Also, Pac election date won’t be rushing anything this time.
If Pac and Floyd fight each other next, I'm sure that it will happen November, early December-ish. I just feel as if they didn't strike when the iron was hot. When Pac beat Cotto, the clamor for the fight was red hot. The fight agrueably means more, since Pac has gotten a win over a top 5 welter in Clottey and Floyd has just beaten the lineal welterweight champ in Mosley. But if the fight were held later this year, I don't feel as if the fight would have as much hype as it would of had it been held in March or May right after Pac's Cotto victory.
i guess it did lose a little bit of steam but it's still the #1 fight that needs to be made. but if the blood testing is not the problem, money is gonna be the next issue that going to delay this fight. the clottey ppv didn't break 1mill and i think we can safely assume that the mosley fight went well past 1mill so i think it's gonna take another try after this one for either side to budge towards an agreement. i hate to be a pessimist but it's just how i see it. but if it does get made before the year ends, it will be the best xmas present ever for 2010.
i do actually after hearing some of what roach has said but i still doubts it gets made this year.
If Pac and Floyd fight each other next, I'm sure that it will happen November, early December-ish. I just feel as if they didn't strike when the iron was hot. When Pac beat Cotto, the clamor for the fight was red hot. The fight agrueably means more, since Pac has gotten a win over a top 5 welter in Clottey and Floyd has just beaten the lineal welterweight champ in Mosley. But if the fight were held later this year, I don't feel as if the fight would have as much hype as it would of had it been held in March or May right after Pac's Cotto victory.
I hope so. When Pac destroyed cotto, floyd pissed his pants and started these steroid allegations and bizarre demands for olympic style drug testing.
On the other hand, when floyd beat Mosley, Pac said, I'll finish floyd off in the second round, I want to fight.