so what same people gave Manny Pacquiao fighter of the decade because they were impressed by him dominating Hatton DLH and Cotto. it's after the dust settles and everybody look back clearly they realize even thou a win over Ruiz was impressive he still was a shitty HW
Ruiz wasn't sh*tty in the least. Sh*tty style? Yeah. Sh*tty heavyweight? Umm...no. BTW...he was a heavyweight; Jones was not.
RJJ up to beating Ruiz is better than Floyd. When RJJ beat Ruiz, boxing mags were seriously debating RJJ as the greatest boxer ever. They dont do that for Floyd. Only floyd has said it.
After beating Ruiz people were wondering if RJJ could beat Lennox Lewis. Now PBF wont even step up divisions and fight the weak champs in the higher divisions now.
He could win, but is not taking any risks.
so what same people gave Manny Pacquiao fighter of the decade because they were impressed by him dominating Hatton DLH and Cotto. it's after the dust settles and everybody look back clearly they realize even thou a win over Ruiz was impressive he still was a shitty HW
Floyd Mayweather.
Manny Pacquiao (pending)
Shane Mosley
Juan Manuel Marquez
Ricky Hatton
Oscar De La Hoya
Zab Judah
Arturo Gatti
Jose Luis Castillo
Diego Corrales
Genero Hernandez
Undefeated through 5 weight classes, lineal champ in 3.
And his career isn't over yet.
Who in YOUR OPINION should rank higher on a ATG List and why?
RJJ up to beating Ruiz is better than Floyd. When RJJ beat Ruiz, boxing mags were seriously debating RJJ as the greatest boxer ever. They dont do that for Floyd. Only floyd has said it.
After beating Ruiz people were wondering if RJJ could beat Lennox Lewis. Now PBF wont even step up divisions and fight the weak champs in the higher divisions now.
He could win, but is not taking any risks.
I disagree...
Floyd dominated thoose 3, who imo are more superior skillwise(also resume) than the other 3.
Jones vs. Hill: Roy did good(looked good) against a 34 year old Hill who allready lost to Darius Michalziewski(??) and broke one of his ribs or something... The commentators thought so at least. dunno for sure. Nice... but still
Jones vs Johnson: Havent seen that fight... But then again who the fck is Reggie Jonhson??
Jones vs Griffin: Struggled in the first fight(and even lost) gotta give him he did beautifully in the second though...
But still not even close to on par with wins over DLH while moving up, Judah close to prime and a complete domination of Arturo gatti, who btw should never be lined up versus Montell Grffin like that ever again... Wasnt he that chump that fell over the ropes???
Wow...when did you start watching boxing?
floyd will be greater all time than roy---people say roy was the most gifted fighter they've ever seen---and i always considered floy greater---floyd always holds compubox records against top competition----he hasn't lost, never been knocked down officially---has broken ppv records, was p4p longer than roy---
Roy was the p4p king for almost a decade
I disagree...
Floyd dominated thoose 3, who imo are more superior skillwise(also resume) than the other 3.
Jones vs. Hill: Roy did good(looked good) against a 34 year old Hill who allready lost to Darius Michalziewski(??) and broke one of his ribs or something... The commentators thought so at least. dunno for sure. Nice... but still
Jones vs Johnson: Havent seen that fight... But then again who the fck is Reggie Jonhson??
Jones vs Griffin: Struggled in the first fight(and even lost) gotta give him he did beautifully in the second though...
But still not even close to on par with wins over DLH while moving up, Judah close to prime and a complete domination of Arturo gatti, who btw should never be lined up versus Montell Grffin like that ever again... Wasnt he that chump that fell over the ropes???
Jones W over Ruiz >>>>>>> Any W for floyd
End of this pointless thread
Who did Floyd fight that was better than Roy? Wins over Hopkins and Toney trump wins over Corrales and Castillo, wins over Virgil Hill, Reggie Johnson, Montell Griffin are at least on par to DLH, Judah and Gatti. A win over a one loss Tarver in the first fight is at least on par with beating a Mosley who was troubled against a shot Mayorga 2 years ago. And becoming the first man to move from MW to HW and win a title in over 100 years is impressive regardless of who he beat. And Floyd hasnt even made to the age or the number of fights Roy had when he first got KOd so how is that even a factor?
I disagree...
Floyd dominated thoose 3, who imo are more superior skillwise(also resume) than the other 3.
Jones vs. Hill: Roy did good(looked good) against a 34 year old Hill who allready lost to Darius Michalziewski(??) and broke one of his ribs or something... The commentators thought so at least. dunno for sure. Nice... but still
Jones vs Johnson: Havent seen that fight... But then again who the fck is Reggie Jonhson??
Jones vs Griffin: Struggled in the first fight(and even lost) gotta give him he did beautifully in the second though...
But still not even close to on par with wins over DLH while moving up, Judah close to prime and a complete domination of Arturo gatti, who btw should never be lined up versus Montell Grffin like that ever again... Wasnt he that chump that fell over the ropes???
Jones
1990's Fighter Of The Decade.
First MW to win a HW belt for over 100yrs.
He(A natural MW) dominated the LH division and became the Undisputed champion.
P4P king for a decade 1994-2004
He beat:
Hopkins(Nobody else beat hop the way roy did)
Toney(P4P king at that time)
Hill(the first man to stop him)
Tarver(Got the W despite losing 25lbs)
Griffin(Undefeated at that time)
Harding(One of roy's toughest fights-Undefeated)
Reggie Johnson
Mike McCallum(HOFer)
Vinny Paz
Floyd is amazing, but he's not in Roy's league YET.
You have to give it to Mayweather. He is technically far superior to anyone out there at the moment as well as in the last 20 years with the exception of Joe Calzaghe.
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calzaghe???? the guy cant even throw punches properly and has a weak cv lay off the puff
jones at the moment the guy was the daddy for ten year floyd took his p4p 1 ranking,lets see floyd bulk up come back down keep goin for years,floyd not that stupid it ruind roy but hey that was roys fault.
You have to give it to Mayweather. He is technically far superior to anyone out there at the moment as well as in the last 20 years with the exception of Joe Calzaghe.
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Although I said Jones, I refuse to vote because Jones is already finished while Floyd has about 2 more years in his prime. A Pacquiao win and maybe a move up to 160 changes my vote slightly. But it is really hard to beat that move up to HW to fight a legit HW champ for one of the three main ABC belts. Floyd's gonna have to at least move up and fight once at 160 just to come close to Jones accomplishments.
And I know it's not about accomplishments, it's about who the greater fighter is I still say Jones atm. Mayweather is a great fighter but Jones was better. Let's see who Floyd else Floyd beats in his prime and in what fashion he beats them. If he goes on to beat up top competition like he did to Mosley then can come closer.
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