"pac is basically a lightweight"

Wow, way to start the excuses THIS EARLY. You really get ahead of yourself pull.

I don't recall that. Watch Mayweather-Marquez to refresh your memory.

FN weights So Pacquiao is bigger than Delahoya due to their fight night weight? Correct? How about Hatton and Mayweather?

FN weights The only ones that tell the true picture .

I don't recall that. Steward definitely said that. Floyd and Manny are definitely the smallest elite welterweights and I would say they are both just natural welters. There is a marginal difference between them the both only go up to about 148-152 on fight night as opposed to straight up bigger guys like Mosley. Just because Floyd was strong enough to bully SSM don't make him BIG, it makes him STRONG and its most likely just good athleticism and leverage as opposed to brute force...sorta like how the Gracies preach.

manny steward said that, not me. rewatch the post fight analysis by manny steward after the pac/clottey fight. Pac imho is a legit WW, but anybody that has to eat 5 meals a day + protein shakes isn't a true WW. And Floyd said he had 3 meals before the fight and his body just would not go over 150 , Ive said all along Manny and Floyd are very close to same size with Floyd just a smidge bigger , 2 lb tops , they are both little guys .

Stewart said that Mayweather was around 152 for Marquez."Just repeating what Stewart said." Isn't that what you said you're doing in this thread? I don't recall that.

Yo Pull, remember when we were talking the other day about excuses and I said that Floyd is 40-0 so dont act like Floyd fans makes alot of excuses. I then sbut I bet you will find some win Floyd wins "again" or something like that and you replied like you didnt get it. This is what I meant. Ever since the fight ended you have been making excuses for alot of different things. what excuses? floyd was as big and stronger than mosley and whupped his ass.

So you think he is a legit WW but post what Steward said like it is Gospel I never said steward's estimation was gospel. I'm just distancing myself from steward. but steward did say pac was basically a lightweight.

Yo Pull, remember when we were talking the other day about excuses and I said that Floyd is 40-0 so dont act like Floyd fans makes alot of excuses. I then sbut I bet you will find some win Floyd wins "again" or something like that and you replied like you didnt get it. This is what I meant. Ever since the fight ended you have been making excuses for alot of different things.

until floyd allows HBO to weigh in on fight night I stand by around 160 lbs Stewart said that Mayweather was around 152 for Marquez."Just repeating what Stewart said." Isn't that what you said you're doing in this thread?

Did they show Mosley's fight night weight? Mayweather looked as big if not bigger than him.

those were manny steward's words, not mine. I think pac is a legit WW, but he's isn't a true WW in the sense that pac doesn't balloon up to around 160 lbs like floyd. So you think he is a legit WW but post what Steward said like it is Gospel

That really was stupid. Mayweather's weight doesn't fluctuate like that. He stays in shape. until floyd allows HBO to weigh in on fight night I stand by around 160 lbs

Pacquiao = Junior Welterweight Mayweather = Welterweight

Yeah, Physically he is a big LW or small Jww........Hatton, Ortiz, Bradley are all bigger guys than him even Funeka and Guzman are bigger than him both of whom had never had a jww fight even. How did you come to that conclusion?

1500 calories a day? You are ****ing stupid, the average person needs 2000 a day, but a fighter that runs miles and trains for hours everyday only consumes 1500? He wouldn't be able to train at all on that much. Ricky Hatton loses 30lbs+ in 8 week when he's training, what's he eating fresh air? :rofl::rofl:

Pac's a natural LW and Floyd's a natural LWW imo. Either way they aren't too far apart. I would say Floyd was always a good full division above Pac though. And how many years ago was this true? I would say Pacquiao is a semi-small ww and a fullout jr welter. Mayweather today is def a legit ww.

do you actually believe the bullshit tht comes from ur mouth? floyd was 160 lbs lmao....he weighed 146 lbs, so he at fightnight he gained 14 lbs in one day? you are looking more and more foolish by each day..thanks That really was stupid. Mayweather's weight doesn't fluctuate like that. He stays in shape.

Pac's a natural LW and Floyd's a natural LWW imo. Either way they aren't too far apart. I would say Floyd was always a good full division above Pac though.