He sure looked like a full fledged welterweight to me vs Cotto and Clottey who by most accounts are considered big, solid and strong welterweights.
No height, size, former flyweight excuses when Floyd beats him.
no, but i dont think pac wieghing 147 on fight night as a lightweight makes him a natural welterwieght. its hard to say what his natural weight is to be fair.
do you really understand the concept in weighing-in day and fight night weight?
Pacquiao is a legit welterweight.. 170 pounds Clottey was scared of him FFS, he didnt throw a single punch..!! Cotto who is a big welterweight got brutalised by him, anyone saying Pacquiao aint a welterweight should jump off a bridge and die or just kill themselves period!!...pacquiao weighed as a welterweight fightnight when he was fighting at lightweight and super featherweight, and now that hes at welterweight his fight night weight is more than pretty boy floyd!!
]pacquiao and floyd are and were the same size since they were 16 till now
:stupid:
say WHATTT????
If he was a legit WW against Cotto, then why is everyone complaining about Cotto being drained? Wouldn't that mean that they were BOTH DRAINED
Think about it. If PAcquiao was a legit WW against Cotto, why did he ask for a catchweight.
If both Cotto and Pacquiao are legit WWs, then they would both be more drained at 145 than at 147.
Pac is no more than a JrWW who can still make LW. At 145, 147, he is past his best weight.
Great post bud, never taught about it that way:boxing:
no, but i dont think pac wieghing 147 on fight night as a lightweight makes him a natural welterwieght. its hard to say what his natural weight is to be fair.
Does this make David Diaz a welterwieight for weighing 148lbs (a pound more than Pacquiao) on fight night?
does it make oscar a welterweight for making the zombie weight?
now that is a lie.
most fighters that have to make weight are on RESTRICTIVE diets with protein shakes to replenish.
the amount of calories manny has to intake is insane and yet he's still 3+ lbs under 147 on the day of the weigh in (sometimes even more before eating)
Keeping weight on is very difficult if you train everyday for many hours a day and you have one of the toughest training of any sport out there.....theres a reason so many boxers ballon up after a fight, its becaseu they are still eating all those calories yet stopped training
manny weighing in at 142 for a welterweight fight is evidence of him being a full-blown welterweight?
also, knowing damn well that most WW's weigh in the 150's and up, yet manny weighing 148 on fight night is evidence he's a full-blown welterweight?
LoL
ass clown
The problem with most people is they see Manny at a WW weight and hes obviously bigger then he would be at LW or JWW and people say that at WW he doesnt look like a LW, well obviuosly he doesnt look like a LW because he has 10 extra pounds on him.....it would be like calling RJJ a full fledgeed HW when he moved up to fight Toney
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Again there is an OPTIMUM fighting weight for every fighter out there.....thats why fighters cut weight.....so tell me what do you call Paul Willaims? is he a NATURAL WW, MW, or JMW?
Most fighters (apart from fighter like Hatton :lol1:) will be on a high calorie diet in training, they need the calories to train, all fighters would be dropping weight like Ricky Hatton does if they weren't.
now that is a lie.
most fighters that have to make weight are on RESTRICTIVE diets with protein shakes to replenish.
the amount of calories manny has to intake is insane and yet he's still 3+ lbs under 147 on the day of the weigh in (sometimes even more before eating)
manny weighing in at 142 for a welterweight fight is evidence of him being a full-blown welterweight?
also, knowing damn well that most WW's weigh in the 150's and up, yet manny weighing 148 on fight night is evidence he's a full-blown welterweight?
LoL
ass clown
but but but.....he came from 109lbs....and they force feed him 1million calories a day with a shovel to make weight. lol
hes a legit welterweight, don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
i glad we can debunk myths by how things look on television.
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Pacquiao is a legit welterweight.. 170 pounds Clottey was scared of him FFS, he didnt throw a single punch..!! Cotto who is a big welterweight got brutalised by him, anyone saying Pacquiao aint a welterweight should jump off a bridge and die or just kill themselves period!!...pacquiao weighed as a welterweight fightnight when he was fighting at lightweight and super featherweight, and now that hes at welterweight his fight night weight is more than pretty boy floyd!!
pacquiao and floyd are and were the same size since they were 16 till now
you need a better education.
Most fighters (apart from fighter like Hatton :lol1:) will be on a high calorie diet in training, they need the calories to train, all fighters would be dropping weight like Ricky Hatton does if they weren't.
Lol at the Hatton part....but i think that a fighter gaining and losing so much weight effects how long a fighter will be in the ring...i mean Hatton is like 31 but the yo-yoing bodyweight prolly makes him feel 40 or more
People dont understand that everyone has a different body TYPE......Sure Pac weighs in close to the 147 limit but thats because he doesnt have to cut weight, and even eats breakfast and lunch on the day of a weigh in..
Its like comparing Adamak and Arreola; They are both about the same height but Arreolas body type is that of a true HW but Adamaks Body type is that of a 190 lb fighters.....so Adamak is no more then a 190lber.....he still fights at hw and DOES NOT look like a HW just like Manny doesnt look like a WW.
Pac is a small guy and height has nothing to do with it otherwise there would be height classes instead of weight classes
exactly, he intakes crazy amount of calories and he still falls short of 147 by a few lbs.
instead of melting down to 147 he has to be on a high calorie diet during training to MAINTAIN reasonable fighting weight for a WW.
what other WW has to do that?
Most fighters (apart from fighter like Hatton :lol1:) will be on a high calorie diet in training, they need the calories to train, all fighters would be dropping weight like Ricky Hatton does if they weren't.