Seems that to be number one, you have to beat the number one guy, in this case Manny Pacquiao. Last week, Manny was numero uno, Shane was second. Floyd beats Shane now he's number one? LOL, shit don't work like that. The Ring is losing credibility with this one.
how did manny become the #1ww in the first place??
Hold up..did Manny beat the #1 Welter? How did he become #1 at that weight?
Floyd chickened out.. everybody who watched boxing for the last decade knew that Floyd retired so the top welters could fight and beat each other before he fights one of em.. very good strategy for Floyd.
Anyway Floyd got his p4p title when RJ lost, so what's your point? Floyd didnt beat the number 1 either when he got it but the number should at least lose or due to inactivity to be stripped of the title not when he's still dominating his competition, common flomos that's a no brainer.
Seems that to be number one, you have to beat the number one guy, in this case Manny Pacquiao. Last week, Manny was numero uno, Shane was second. Floyd beats Shane now he's number one? LOL, shit don't work like that. The Ring is losing credibility with this one.
I'll explain.
Mayweather was #1 welterweight in 2007 and then retired.
After he retired in 2008, Cotto and Margarito became #1 AND #2 WELTERWEIGHTS.
Margarito beat Cotto.
Shane beat Margarito
Floyd beat Shane
Floyd has the lineal title, thus #1.
Seems that to be number one, you have to beat the number one guy, in this case Manny Pacquiao. Last week, Manny was numero uno, Shane was second. Floyd beats Shane now he's number one? LOL, shit don't work like that. The Ring is losing credibility with this one.
Hold up..did Manny beat the #1 Welter? How did he become #1 at that weight?
Seems that to be number one, you have to beat the number one guy, in this case Manny Pacquiao. Last week, Manny was numero uno, Shane was second. Floyd beats Shane now he's number one? LOL, shit don't work like that. The Ring is losing credibility with this one.
145 pounds cotto was NOT the number 1 welterweight when catchweight king beat him in any rankings at all - FACT
cotto was number 1 when he beat mosley, margarito was number 1 when he beat cotto, mosley was number 1 when he beat margarito - FACT
you picked shane to beat floyd and got embarrassed and shitted on by many posters, yet you never learn do you?....
shane beat the sh1t out of margacheato and became the number 1 welterweight let me explain again if you are a retard, this happened:
http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2007/11/11/alg_cotto-mosley.jpg
outcome: cotto ranked as number 1
http://pacquiaoandcotto.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/miguel-cotto-margarito15.jpg
outcome: margarito ranked as number 1 (they didnt know about plaster back then)
http://cdn0.sbnation.com/fan_shot_images/29128/0318cd85b6c942ca439fec592cb9b34e-getty-box-usa-mex-welter-mosley-margarito.jpg
Outcome: mosley murders him and gets the number one ranking
http://i44.tinypic.com/rwi43c.gif
Outcome: mayweather dominates mosley and gets the number one ranking
Mosley was ranked 1 by everyone before his fight with mayweather except ring, ring magazine had mosley number 1 before pacquiao vs cotto.
THAT WAS WHAT WENT WRONG, PERIOD.
Ring magazine ranked the winner of pacquiao-cotto as number 1 when NONE OF THEM WERE RANKED number 1 in the first place, it was Mosley. Thats when they lose their credibility....
shane was the WW world champ, manny was the 140lb champ and 147lb titlist, manny was rated higher p4p but shane was higher at WW. floyd beat the number one WW so now he is the number one WW, manny is still number one p4p and two at WW just like before.
i agree with this....
shane was the WW world champ, manny was the 140lb champ and 147lb titlist, manny was rated higher p4p but shane was higher at WW. floyd beat the number one WW so now he is the number one WW, manny is still number one p4p and two at WW just like before.
The Ring has kept Pacquiao at #1 P4P. You should be happy with that.
Thats a relief for a second i thought the OP said PBF was p4p no1.
But PBF cant be no1 for fighting a shot SSM.
You know whats crazy? That Clottey didnt even fight, yet Pacquiao the GOAT came out looking like this:
while Floyd who almost got KTFO came out looking like this:
http://espn-i.starwave.com/media/apphoto/70bba06d-2979-415c-9d18-90193abd00e4.jpg
but its still a beatdown done by a small guy on a big WW not unlike FMJ who was nearly KOd by a shot HOfamer not to include getting a nod from rd 1-2
Seems that to be number one, you have to beat the number one guy, in this case Manny Pacquiao. Last week, Manny was numero uno, Shane was second. Floyd beats Shane now he's number one? LOL, shit don't work like that. The Ring is losing credibility with this one.
Because Pac only fought the number 10 and 3.
Pacquiao beat the #2 Welterweight to become #1. Mayweather beat the #1 Welterweight to become #1. Yeah, Mayweather deserves the #1 spot at Welterweight.
Manny was the number one guy last week; Gayweather did not beat Manny.
Marg was only told to be the most feared man in boxing period. By haters was also the one Floyd was ducking and running scared from. Marg went straight to shane because he thought he was done...he found out he wasnt!
Bottom line is, whats this discussion all about?. Floyd beats everybody they put in front of him. Others either are too young, too old, too slow, too small, he got beat by this and that, he was softened. Thats not his fault if those guys take more punishment than him all their career. Either way yo wanna put it man, Mosley fight was masterclass, perfect execution of a gameplan, and floyd dared to stay in front of a big experienced puncher like him and fight.
how long ago was that? he lost that title to paul williams by the way.
all of his opponents are in those conditions because he retired from boxing when the division he was occupying was the hottest, deepest, & best in all of boxing after beating 140 pounder ricky hatton.
cotto was still fresh, so was margarito, so was mosley, so was paul williams.
they only got to the condition they were because they fought each other & floyd waited to leech of the carcass.
masterclass doesnt explain mosley. this is the guy who struggled once his athleticism was gone which he relied on heavily. lets not forget he actually used steroids by the way.
Seems that to be number one, you have to beat the number one guy, in this case Manny Pacquiao. Last week, Manny was numero uno, Shane was second. Floyd beats Shane now he's number one? LOL, shit don't work like that. The Ring is losing credibility with this one.
Pacquiao beat the #2 Welterweight to become #1. Mayweather beat the #1 Welterweight to become #1. Yeah, Mayweather deserves the #1 spot at Welterweight.
The way I see it, Manny hasn't done anything to lose his spot at the top.
Floyd lost his spot at the top because he retired and Pac outshone all Floyd's victories during his absence.
Floyd has to beat Manny to get his spot back. Simple as that.
Cant have it both ways if you want the title to be earned in the ring , then Manny has to beat Floyd who never lost it in the ring , if you want to have it so that who earns the most brownie points , Floyd just went to the front , either way Floyd will today be P4P No 1 ,,,, not so simple as that is it :)
casamayor beat katsidis after robbing santa cruz.
mosley beat margarito who was suffering the ill effects of the cotto fight where he took 3 punches from cotto to land his one. at least cotto had 2 fights to recover before taking on a elite fighter.
margarito went from cotto straight to shane.
actually katsidis & margarito share similar traits & katsidis is probably fresher of the two. shane was made to look better than he actually is by the worst version of margarito. whose margarito & what made him so great by the way?
Marg was only told to be the most feared man in boxing period. By haters was also the one Floyd was ducking and running scared from. Marg went straight to shane because he thought he was done...he found out he wasnt!
Bottom line is, whats this discussion all about?. Floyd beats everybody they put in front of him. Others either are too young, too old, too slow, too small, he got beat by this and that, he was softened. Thats not his fault if those guys take more punishment than him all their career. Either way yo wanna put it man, Mosley fight was masterclass, perfect execution of a gameplan, and floyd dared to stay in front of a big experienced puncher like him and fight.
The way I see it, Manny hasn't done anything to lose his spot at the top.
Floyd lost his spot at the top because he retired and Pac outshone all Floyd's victories during his absence.
Floyd has to beat Manny to get his spot back. Simple as that.
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