Simple question folks...
If you were Floyd, would you now accept the 14-day window from Pacquiao? And why?
(I know Pacquiao has not formally offered it but early indications looks like it will be offered)
LOL DONT FORGET THE LITTLE TRICK LIED AND SAID HE DIDNT WATCH THE FIGHT AND HADNT SEEN IT. That little ****er was glued to the television.
Rooting his ass off when when shane caught my boy floyd, but after Floyd shook back and started kicking shanes ass I could see PACMAN THROWING SHIT, KICKING OVER TABLES, SLAPPIN THE CHILDREN, AND FLYING KICKING JINKEES, PARENTS, ONLY TO END IT ALL WITH A ROCK BOTTOM ON JINKEES CRYING ASS THROUGH A GLASS TABLE.
LOL
Dam right that little f-cker was glued to the tv, his career and future business moves in boxing depended on the outcome. If Mosley wins, its another payday as far as additional testing goes he's in the clear because Mosley went on record and said he wouldn't ask for additional testing. Mayweather wins, and they have to find a whole new line of excuses to use as to why there not going to take the test. For Pacquiao, mayweather winning was the worse thing that could happen. How are you going to explain turning down over 30mil over a drug test twice? Shit mayweather's stance on why he's asking hasn't changed the minute he asked pacquiao to take the test. On the other hand, Pacquiao's reason's for not taking the additional testing have been changing like night and day.
=/ victor conte never said none of that shii cus he's a manufacturer of steroids who was involved in the balco scandal, smh you a flomo arent you
are u trying to cite tyrus tygard the ceo of usada?
cus he dunno jack shiit about PEDS although hes the ceo of USADA
he thinks blood doping is peds and even called the passport program a ped but i guess thats why he's the ceo and not the lab technician.. anyways
yah but how come you didnt talk about the unlimited urine testing tyrus tygart talked about
you wouldn't have time to clear anything if you're being tested everyday and pac added the clause for victor to test him unlimitedly if he must
now wat ur ass should know is what don catlin, whos the scientist-chemist of modern anti-doping and basically develops all the test that tyrus and the gang implement
he said blood testing is only diffrent from urine in that it can only test for PEDS HGH and and epo-micera
HGH is pretty much considered in the scientific community that it gasses you( you can look up the study done by harvard medicine and british medicine journal for proof) so as far as pac needing to be tested for that shii, you better use some common b4 u form an opinion
when it comes to micera, they say its an EPO unlike the other EPO in that it has one of the largest epo molecue and is difficult to pass through the kidneys..... kidney is where your urine comes from
on the same token, because it is hard to be rid of by the kidneys, it's exactly that reason why it's hard to flush out from the body, on average it can stay in the body for 48 days
so your ass should have an opinion of 48 days as the cut off reasonable date
either that or youre a flomo
Good analogy and i also read that article too, and he's not lying Victor Conte did say that i read that article to on maxboxing.com i can even give you the name of it and you can look it up yourself. However i agree that there should be testing all the way up until the fight, for that very same reason, so does that make me a flomo because i know there are certain epo's and hgh's that can be flushed out of your system within 2 days. Remember that Email that was supposedly sent during the negotiations to Mayweathers camp back in january. According to Ted Atlas and Tim Smith (a reporter from the NY daily news) during negotiations a email from Pacquaio's camp was supposedly sent to Mayweathers camp. They asked 2 questions. 1. What would the penalty if Pacquiao did test positive for steroids and 2. If he did, can they keep it quiet for the sake of boxing. At first when i heard this i thought that it was just some bullshit that Mayweather's people put out there. After all this posturing back n forth on the same issue it makes it seem that "imaginary e-mail" seem all the more true.
I wouldn't personnaly, with someone who supervised all the drugs you take, you can clear all the mess from your body in 8 days. So 14 or 24 days would be the same thing, I'm not creating anything, Victor Conte said it!
and he also said that HGH and some epo's can be out of system in between 24hrs-48hrs with the right masking agents, everything that manny's personal trainer (Alex Ariza) would know because he worked with Balco.
gibberish :twak:
read it and weep again
may ducked pac and will fight other easier fighters because hes gonna gonna lose against pac, pac is gonna fight other fighters because mayweather is too scared of him and wont fight unless pac is blood drained
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Please, even your professional mayweather haterz like emanuel steward and Jim Lampley don't give Pacquaio a shot against floyd. And neither does Manny himself lol, little bitch, he can talk about anything else he wants in an interview with no problem, he can talk about his political campaign, who he last fought, how hard he's training, shit he'll even sing for you and he cant f-cking sing, but the minute you put a mic in his face and ask about steroids its like "Me no speaka de ingles" and here is bob arum or freddie roach to the rescue, lol. HE's the real fraud. I can assure you that Arum and Roach will make sure that nobody ever puts a mic or a camera in front of Alex("I make Manny special blends and shakes to drink") Ariza. lol keep repeating that bullshit. Manny stands absolutely no chance of beating Mayweather, and he's not ready to find that out yet for sure. Hes the scared 1, even more so after what he saw saturday night. He wouldn't dare step foot in the ring with him. And floyd tore him apart. Manny was shook in January that's why he refused then, he's ****ing petrified now.
so what do you call mosley mysteriously gassing like he has never been before, now b4 u gonna call him old, he ws already old against margo so why didnt he get gassed with margo then?
im not blood testing expert or technician but i have heard from many people that some affect them and some dont, in a way we can say blood testing affect people diffrently
im just gonna talk straight facts, we saw mayweather taking the test yet he didnt seem likes hes affected, i guess hes not, could be the reason why he keeps insisting for test, he knows it doesnt affect him
we also know mosley got gassed mysteriously and that's not normal for him and the only diffrence between mosley's training this time compare to his past fights is, he was introduce to the blood test
we also know pac claimed in 2005 he was very weak and he attributed his war with morales as a case of blood drainage couple with weight drainage among other things, this is well documented on a filipino tv so this aint something he made up when floyd ask for the test
from this facts , what do you think will happen?
like i said, what would be the point of a blood drain pacquiao
if you have a hard time believing pac that's another thing but use your common sense, pac is not afraid of no fighter bigger than him nor would he lose anything if he lose against may, he already lost 3 times so he has no reason to duck may and give up 50 million if what he said about him being weak wasn't true, you just have to take his word for it
the only plausible reasoning here is that the only thing pac wants is a fair shake and to come in the ring, no blood drain and give it his all, regardless of the outcome
if you consider yourself a boxing fan, it is prudent that you fight for pacquiao not for his sake but because you want to see pac fight at his best against a mayweather at his best
that's all we want. thats what everyone wants
oh.. may a ducker and a pussy
I can't defend someone not willing to accept OST who claims to be clean, my logic doesn't work that way, and i don't see how someone who considers themselves a boxing fan thinks it's okay for any fighter to refuse to take a test without wondering why someone who's clean would be so against it.
I'll agree to disagree without namecalling and childish arguments.
If Pacquiao is proposing 14 days, that means he found a way to cheat in 14 days. Floyd should cut it to 7 and watch, Pacquiao will run away like a coward.
nah, pac said it makes him blood drained and weak so there's no point of them fighting if one is already at a disadvantage,
what would be the point of that?
i know you dont wanna see a gassed manny fighting may like what we saw in a mosley last saturday,
a mysteriously gassed mosley gee i wonder why that has never happened before until the blood test got introduce..
i know you want to see some good boxing from both fighters so do i thats why when u see a flomo give em a lil :spankme:
Almost makes perfect sense, except for the fact that both Mayweather and Mosley were both tested, as would May & Pac. I don't think a thing such as "blood drained" exists, but if it did it wouldn't only effect Pacquiao.
& I didn't hear Mosley complain about the tests as a reason for losing.
I wouldn't have a problem with him accepting that -- he proposed that offer not but a couple months ago -- so why wouldn't it be accetable? To me this is the only fight that makes sense for him to have next; if he's going to stay at 147. Unless he plans to move up to 154...
I wouldn't personnaly, with someone who supervised all the drugs you take, you can clear all the mess from your body in 8 days. So 14 or 24 days would be the same thing, I'm not creating anything, Victor Conte said it!
Simple question folks...
If you were Floyd, would you now accept the 14-day window from Pacquiao? And why?
(I know Pacquiao has not formally offered it but early indications looks like it will be offered)
To be honest after seeing shane talk about the fact he was dehydrated when they surprised him with that last test, i think 14 day cutoff would the way to go.
To be honest i'm getting tired of Pacquiao's bullshit, just take the test and make the fight happen.
Though i still think Mayweather is trying to enforce this because he doesn't really want to fight Pacquiao but still, Pacquiao should just take the damn test.
Why do they want to to mess with Pacquiao's superstitions? Floyd just make the fight and beat Pacquiao's ass. Quit doing this shit, because you look like a duck.
it ain't floyd that looks bad, its not his legacy of being a suspected cheat on the line it's pacquiao, and if/when he refuses again that's what people are going to say. At 1st you can say that Floyd used that as a way to get out of the fight with Pacquiao, but its not like when negotiations fell apart he chose Nate Campbell. To prove to all you haterz it wasn't about picking an easier opponent he chose the hardest (some may say harder than Pacquiao) person left. Idiots that only started watching boxing since pacquiao had a name want us to believe that Floyd was forced to fight Mosley, when in all actuality Mosley twice refused to fight Floyd once in 1999 and again in 2006. So i doubt this testing is a road block to stop the fight from happening, he took it, and so did his next opponent. Both of them did with no problems, but im sure when team pacquaio saw on 24/7 how often they tested, it just shook them up more.
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may ducked pac and will fight other easier fighters because hes gonna gonna lose against pac, pac is gonna fight other fighters because mayweather is too scared of him and wont fight unless pac is blood drained :haha:
Blood drained, like pacquaio doesn't fight guys unless their weight drained. Good try, dam you pacquiao fans are running out of excuses. lol Like it's a coincidence that every since team pacquaio hired alex(i worked for the BALCO lab) ariza this guy goes from struggling against Morales to looking like muhammed ali in 3 months. Cause wow, that was a totally different Manny fighting Diaz than it was fighting Morales. Im just curious to know, what is manny doing in training under ariza in the last 4 years, that he wasn't doing in his 1st 7. read between the smokescreens,
Tell your master Floyd to drop the OST and we'll have a fight.
lol, if manny really wanted to drop the issue, he wouldve taking it the 1st time, we all know how outrageous the Mayweathers can be. The problem i have or question i propose to you is this, If you feel mayweather use this OST as a way to get out of the fight, even though he agreed to take the exact same test, (and already has with mosley). Your saying that makes him a ducker? But he agreed to all of manny's term's before he presented them with OST. So you have 1 fighter in (Manny) that says ok, lets fight. But instead of fighting this bout like a welterweight i wanna fight in 8oz gloves, on top of that i wanna a 50-50 purse split, and in addition to that i want you to pay in excess of 10mil every pound your overweight. Now mayweather agrees. The 1st thing Mayweather ask's for gets the run around. Some people wanna try to put the whole drug testing blame on mayweather and point the finger at him, NEWSFLASH; he's agreeing to take the test. Talk to pacquiao he's the one that wants to manipulate what "random" means. But if you listen to both sides during negotiations i heard numerous things that Mayweather's camp agreed to try and make the fight happen, and not 1 thing that Team Pacquiao has. Now that the ball is in Mayweather's hand's (just like they were in Pacquiao's hands in January) i dont see mayweather bending on this at all. Like i said and he showed you Mayweather can fight anybody an make 8 figures. He won't make as much money fighting anybody else, however Pacquiao walked away from negotiations 1st, not mayweather.
Yes 14 days is a more than fair compromise for someone who has never tested positive for anything, and something that is not required 14 days is more than fair. For as much money that will be made,public demand and what this fight means for the sport Floyd would be stupid not to accept this. If he really wants this fight, he would agree if this is true
Floyd complained that due to an advantage (drugs), some of their opponents get head injuries. He wants to clean up the sport by making the battle a fair one.
Well, last time I checked, Floyd had no problem coming in over the negotiated weight for the Marquez fight. What made that one worse is that Floyd already had a big advantage in size over Marquez.
Even with Manny, Floyd already has an advantage in size. I doubt Floyd will complain there.
This NEVER was and NEVER will be about cleaning up the sport.
Yes 14 days is a more than fair compromise for someone who has never tested positive for anything, and something that is not required 14 days is more than fair. For as much money that will be made,public demand and what this fight means for the sport Floyd would be stupid not to accept this. If he really wants this fight, he would agree if this is true
No, because Floyd took a stand for better drug testing and he backed it up, no way should he turn this positive into a negative by allowing Pac to compromise the integrity of the test.
Why do they want to to mess with Pacquiao's superstitions? Floyd just make the fight and beat Pacquiao's ass. Quit doing this shit, because you look like a duck.
Sure, I would accept it but he isn't going to be tested only 3 times. He will be tested as many times as the USADA wants to test him.
Also, I would get 65/35 of the purse. It's pretty obvious that I would be the draw(if I was Floyd).
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