I kept making this point to all those claiming Pac ducked him. Don't let roach fool u....the shane that showed up last night would have gotten stopped by Manny. Shane isn't shot or past it like most claim, it's just that both Manny and Floyd are a clear cut above everyone else. FWIW neither guy will have competive fights with anyone 147 and below and honestly only PWill and Martinez will give either a challenge.
good win and congrats to Floyd. Full credit and no hate, but this should kill any talk of Shane beating Pac just Like Manny's win of Cotto killed any talk of Miguel beating Floyd.
Honestly kevin, the fight would happen at 147 and the only reason that catch weight stuff was even talked about was because no one knew (not even roach..which is why he went crazy when Manny let cotto tee off on him) that Pac could compete at WW with the elite fighters. After the cotto and Clottey beat down...there will never be catchweight discussion for Manny against top WW and you know that homie...
Sorry fanboy but Pacquaio already fought a much bigger Delehoya at 147 before he rejected Mosley. So that excuse doesn't cut it. They wanted Mosley at 142 because he was "better than Oscar". Those were Roach's words. Your fandom is disgraceful,really. But I expected people like you to come up with this type of BS today. And Pacquiao doesn't have Mayweather's defense which caused a big problem for Mosley last night. You're talking about a completely different style match up.
I kept making this point to all those claiming Pac ducked him. Don't let roach fool u....the shane that showed up last night would have gotten stopped by Manny. Shane isn't shot or past it like most claim, it's just that both Manny and Floyd are a clear cut above everyone else. FWIW neither guy will have competive fights with anyone 147 and below and honestly only PWill and Martinez will give either a challenge.
good win and congrats to Floyd. Full credit and no hate, but this should kill any talk of Shane beating Pac just Like Manny's win of Cotto killed any talk of Miguel beating Floyd.
you are right. pac would stop mosley... under 10 rounds maybe. mosley is past his prime, can't pull the trigger, and his stamina isn't what it used to be.
Theres only one way to find out whether or not Pacquiao can stop or even beat Mosley at all...but apparently Pacquiao doesn't want to know the answer to that question...
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Comparing puer boxers like WInky and Forrest to a reckless one dimensional fighter as Pacman. Too beat Mosley you need patience and timing. Pacman has neither. Pacman has speed and connects one in every 5 shots thus making him look good, Mosley would capitalize on these weak misadventures with brutal right hand opening up Pacmn badly
you don't have to be a great boxer to beat shane. I admit that is one way, but all you have to do is fustrate him and he falls apart. Pac can be patient when he wants but the problem is that he hurts his opponents so earlier and easy that he comes forward. Against opponents who's power he respects (e.g. Oscar fight) he has shown he can be patient, pick his spots and take his opponent out late.
BTW of course he isn't gonna be patient against a Hatton, Cotto, Diaz, etc...when you hurt someone so early and easy, it's only natural to go for the kill. He won't hurt shane early and he actually respects his power...which is why he will fight patient like he did against Oscar.
Maweather didn't do anything to Mosley that hasn't already been done to Mosley 5x before.
And those guys did it to a younger and fresh Mosley.
honestly I was dissapointed when Mosley vs May got made because I knew Floyd would clip Shane taking a great win away from Manny. I wanted Mosley fight bad but congrats to Floyd for doing what he did lastnight.
I kept making this point to all those claiming Pac ducked him. Don't let roach fool u....the shane that showed up last night would have gotten stopped by Manny. Shane isn't shot or past it like most claim, it's just that both Manny and Floyd are a clear cut above everyone else. FWIW neither guy will have competive fights with anyone 147 and below and honestly only PWill and Martinez will give either a challenge.
good win and congrats to Floyd. Full credit and no hate, but this should kill any talk of Shane beating Pac just Like Manny's win of Cotto killed any talk of Miguel beating Floyd.
At the very least it would be a comepetative fight IMO, I would love to see it happen.
Pac has unbelievable footwork nowadays. He wouldn't stand there stupidly like Mosley did and just stare at him.
Co-sign. Manny isn't dumb and isn't gonna trade with Mosley at first. He will move and use his lateral quickness and footwork to fustrate Shane. The thing is if you can Fustrate Shane he falls apart, as seen in his fight with Winky and Vernon. It's at that point Manny would take him out.
People say Floyd tired Mosley out with his style and quick movement. Why the hell can't Manny do the same and with more accumulation in punches? I know Manny's defense is not as superb as Floyd's but I'm definitely sure he can handle Mosley's punches. He handled Cotto's and Clottey's. Nevermind his soft skin.
What lateral movement? Pacman barely moves. Tilting side to side when your opponent is not throwing is not movement. When Pacman throws and comes in he ALWAYS leaves himself open for big right hands. Clottey who threw barely little busted up Pacman’s face, Now imagine Mosley continually hitting him with clean right hands. He would have stopped him
It seems you have more faith in Pacman beating Mosley than Pacman and his trainer. How sad
are you talking about before or after Cotto?
Just like Roach I also said Mosley was too big, as well as Clottey and Margarito before Pac fought Cotto. I mean everyone thought that, which is why I can understand Roach's comments.
The thing is this though...fights change opinion's and perceptions and after the Cotto and Clottey beatings, I garuantee Roach has changed his opinion, just like I have.
The fight would simply be who's chin can take the most punches. Pacquaio would end up trading with Mosley after he thinks he can take Mosley punches. I also think Mosley would be more focused for that fight because he knows what Pac is capable of also that plays more into his style.
A horribly weight drained Mosley at 142(the weight Roach wanted him at) would get KO'ed by any decent puncher imo.
Honestly kevin, the fight would happen at 147 and the only reason that catch weight stuff was even talked about was because no one knew (not even roach..which is why he went crazy when Manny let cotto tee off on him) that Pac could compete at WW with the elite fighters. After the cotto and Clottey beat down...there will never be catchweight discussion for Manny against top WW and you know that homie...
You guys got it twisted if you think Pac will stand in front on Shane and exchange with him. He will be sticking and moving, going in and out and only letting his hands go when he has Shane in danger.
I mean seriously Pac's foot speed and lateral quickness are light years better than mosley and his angles alone would fukk Mosley. Mosley has no chance against Manny....no chance.
pac gives floyd more trouble than he does shane
styles make the fights
floyd could simply be outworked and lose.
shane could trade and put him to sleep
Considering Mayweather's defence is a million times better than Pacmans I think you are incorrect sir. Mosley wouldn't be struggling to tee off like last night, he would be able to land right hands all night.
Chosing Cotto over Shane was the right choice. You guys seem to forget that you can't fight all these guys and once....but anyone who thinks that version of Shane (jittery and nervous etc) stops Pac your dellusional. Pac wouldn't trade at first, just stick n move, fustrate him and then take him out late. Again Mosley can't beat Pac and Pac actually makes it look easy.
I kept making this point to all those claiming Pac ducked him. Don't let roach fool u....the shane that showed up last night would have gotten stopped by Manny. Shane isn't shot or past it like most claim, it's just that both Manny and Floyd are a clear cut above everyone else. FWIW neither guy will have competive fights with anyone 147 and below and honestly only PWill and Martinez will give either a challenge.
good win and congrats to Floyd. Full credit and no hate, but this should kill any talk of Shane beating Pac just Like Manny's win of Cotto killed any talk of Miguel beating Floyd.
Maybe but Pac didn't want any of the real WW champion at the time he wanted Cotto.