Floyd Mayweather: Most Racially Divisive Fighter in Boxing?

You have a VERY naive view of the world... If Floyd were Mexican he'd be more accepted/loved by Mexicans If Floyd were Pinoy he'd be more accepted/loved by Pinoys If Floyd were White he'd be more accepted/loved by Whites You are underestimating the psychology of human nature.... Yeah but that rolls back to what I said. That is pre-existing "racism" and i still don't think Floyd makes people extra racist. This place is full of people with different ethnic backgrounds. I also noticed an unwritten rule that for about at least 80% of the members here, they will automatically gravitate around the fighters who they more closely relate to, whether it be an ethnic or geographical reason. That can be considered human nature, but I do not think that falls within the definition of actual racism. If that is the case, most here are guilty as charged. Floyd used to be my favorite fighter. I started disliking him a few years ago because he became too diva. It had nothing to do with what he said and everything to do with what he refused to do. In my eyes I want a fighter to represent being a champion. Many have fell from grace with me over time that I used to like. Pavlik is another example of someone i used to like, worked hard and took risks to get to the top, only to flounder it. Froch has a poor attitude yes, but I cannot dislike him for that. He fights the best and takes chances. Pascal is another one. Bradley is another one. Maidana is another one. Marquez is another one. Cotto is another one. Pacquiao is another one. Those guys step up. That is why i like them. Floyd is facing a tough assed fight Saturday, and that is why he has made a huge stride in earning back my respect.

So this thread is about Valero now? Have at it. I think I've made myself pretty clear. I'm out. :wave: You sure have. See ya.................

I've never used a racial slur against Mayweather so I don't know what you're trying to say here. You sound pretty paranoid . I didn't say you did. But many here have yet you're here justifying it. Which is no better than if you had done it yourself.

I don't judge him out of respect for the dead and because his situation is so tragic. I could never pretend to understand what went on inside his head to sit here and judge him. I don't see what this has to do with Mayweather, who is alive and who purposely provokes people through his behavior in the media. You didn't judge him when he was alive either. And there was plenty to judge. So don't even try that sorry excuse.

It has everything to do with Mosley. Him and Floyd are both black, yet everyone respects Mosley and everyone despises Floyd. Gee, I wonder why that is? Could it be the way they conduct themselves towards others? This is elementary stuff. I never justified Valero's behavior. Shane is a gentleman. I respect that. It has nothing to do with race. I thought Kelly Pavlik was a punk too. Now what? I tell you what. Use a racial slur towards Mayweather while telling Mosley how much you respect him and see what kind of response you get.

His behavior. What in his behavior give people the right to call him a monkey, the "N" word, put his face on a KFC box. These are racially insulting to black people on a whole not just Mayweather. Call him a loud mouth, a jerk, a spendthrift, a fool because of his behavior but don't racially insult him or blacks on a whole. Thats not a good reason to. Valero is dead. And people still judge him and disrespect him post mortem. If he was alive, I'm pretty sure you would all pile up on him even worse. When he was alive and beating on his wife people judged him for the act of beating on his wife. They didn't racially insult him or his race. That's the racial double standard we are talking about here.

His behavior. Valero is dead. And people still judge him and disrespect him post mortem. If he was alive, I'm pretty sure you would all pile up on him even worse. But you don't and that's the whole point. If you judged everybody the same way you would be consistent and your racist views wouldn't as obvious as they are now.

one thing i think is clear is that race shouldn't play any part in whether you like or dislike floyd and in some cases it has. besides floyd gives people on this forum enough ammunition with his words and conduct to the point you shouldn't have to even take to it a racial level.

How is it a double standard? Valero is in the ground. I'm paying respect to the man and the tragedy of his situation. I would do the same if something like that happened to Floyd. This isn't about Valero. Its about Floyds conduct dictating how he is perceived and judged. Like I said, why isn't Mosley attacked? He's black. Whats your excuse now? Nice diversionary tactic but this topic has nothing to do with how Mosley's treated. But I'll tell you this. If Mosley was a drunk drug addict and murdered his wife you would be one of the first ones here calling for his head. Get my point?

:bottle::bottle: Poor Valero. You're a hypocrrite and obviously using a racial double standard. Valero did something worse than any of the Mayweather's put together. Thanks for proving my point for me. I absolutely agree, point well taken.

I disagree. Its a double standard. If he opens himself up like that he is fair game. Nobody talks about Mosley that way because Mosley has never opened himself up for it. Floyd provokes that type of reaction and then his fans become upset when other fans play into it. You can't have it both ways. How is it a double standard and how does he open himself to racial insults? Who is cheering Valero? I don't judge Valero for his personal life, I just have sympathy for him because he was obviously troubled beyond any of our understanding. If you consider me saying "rip Valero" a way of cheering him, than you need to check your definitions. You don't judge Valero for his personal life but you judge Floyd for his? That right there is the real double standard.

Who is cheering Valero? I don't judge Valero for his personal life, I just have sympathy for him because he was obviously troubled beyond any of our understanding. If you consider me saying "rip Valero" a way of cheering him, than you need to check your definitions. :bottle::bottle: Poor Valero. You're a hypocrrite and obviously using a racial double standard. Valero did something worse than any of the Mayweather's put together. Thanks for proving my point for me.

You don't think Mayweather opens himself up to insults by declaring himself a silverback gorilla? Or acting like a buffoon on national television? And you're gonna sit there and tell me Roger doesn't resemble a pan handling toothless crackhead? The same Roger who is on trial for beating up some girl? Or the same one who ran drugs? Oh wait, was that Floyd sr? GTFO. You're exactly the type of person I was referring to. Which is probably why you responded. I'm glad I hit a nerve lol. And what you said has nothing to do with what I said in my post. Try hiding your racism for somebody else with those lame excuses. Because you aren't fooling me. So you GTFO. And BTW you are one of those Edwin Valero worshipers I was talking about. And you have the nerve to talk about Roger Mayweather beating up a girl. Hypocrite muvch or just a racist using a double standard? Looks like Edwin was doing more drugs than Roger huh?

You don't think Mayweather opens himself up to insults by declaring himself a silverback gorilla? Or acting like a buffoon on national television? And you're gonna sit there and tell me Roger doesn't resemble a pan handling toothless crackhead? The same Roger who is on trial for beating up some girl? Or the same one who ran drugs? Oh wait, was that Floyd sr? GTFO. Come on man you know better than that to compare someone who is trying to be racist by calling a black person a monkey with a black person call themselves a silverback gorilla. It's the same thing with the "N" word. Black people often refer to themselves as this, but it is not to degrade themselves or be racially insulting. However when a person of another race uses that word to refer to a black person you can tell immediately what the intent of using that word is meant to be.

Of course there are. I've seen posters like Solly6 and Them Apples refer to Mayweather as a "monkey". And they get away with it. I've seen posters describe Mayweather as terrible human being, Roger a " crack head",while flaunting their love and support for a drug addicted murderer like Edwin Valero. Of course it's not always a racial thing and I don't think everybody that dislikes Mayweather is a racist. But many of them are and that's just a fact. The element is there and pretty transparent at times here in NSB. Anybody that can't see that is either in denial or just afraid to acknowledge it. I've seen that a couple of times and am in disbelief the next time i see the posters posting stuff again without being banned. The way how people are biased you would think that Floyd was the murderer here.

I agree with you in that it is not entirely a racial thing or as dramatic as a "Jack Johnson" but there is some racial undertones especially in the names you see "anonymous" people on the internet call him. Compare this to other athletes in the sport of boxing who come off as pricks, brag as much or even trash talk more and are more disrespectful e.g Froch, Mayorga and the backlash is different. Now i'm not saying that he doesn't call it upon himself or its all racial but theres some truth to it. Of course there are. I've seen posters like Solly6 and Them Apples refer to Mayweather as a "monkey". And they get away with it. I've seen posters describe Mayweather as terrible human being, Roger a " crack head",while flaunting their love and support for a drug addicted murderer like Edwin Valero. Of course it's not always a racial thing and I don't think everybody that dislikes Mayweather is a racist. But many of them are and that's just a fact. The element is there and pretty transparent at times here in NSB. Anybody that can't see that is either in denial or just afraid to acknowledge it.

Some are and some aren't. Exhibit A: This was very disgraceful and racist. This is one of the reasons why i don't take what Nazim seriously when he talks about Floyd making blacks look bad when he is the trainer for Hopkins who makes racist remarks like that.

Completely agree with you bro. It disgusts me how posters on BS can get away with photo shopped pictures of Floyd on a KFC bucket or calling him Kentucky Floyd. That's one of the main reasons I rarely post on this site. Yes it's incredible how many racially, culturally and gender degrading things are allowed here day after day while people get banned here for basically nothing. Sorry to hear that you don't post here because of it. Took me a while to post here, used to just browse the forums and read all the stupid comments till i couldn't hold back anymore. So many posters here who can't debate without being racially insulting.

Its true. And I don't think that makes you a racist. People are just naturally tribal animals that gravitate towards their kind. Political correctness hasn't been able to breed that out of them just yet. Definitely true and i would hope people wouldn't confuse that with racism. isn't his trainer black??/ Lol, nice

Definitely can respect, it takes a strong unbiased person to be able to look past his flaws and appreciate his genius in the ring. I don't think that its only other races who hates Floyd, there are a lot of blacks who don't like him and rightfully so. The thing that i have a problem with is when people go overboard with the racially insulting comments, pics etc towards anyone of any race and i do think he catches a lot of it compared to other boxers who currently do the same as he does. Completely agree with you bro. It disgusts me how posters on BS can get away with photo shopped pictures of Floyd on a KFC bucket or calling him Kentucky Floyd. That's one of the main reasons I rarely post on this site.