Rewatching Froch-Kessler now....

If it was close then their shouldn't be an outrage at Froch losing his 0. He clearly needed to do more to make it so it wasn't close. Robberies aren't close fights in my opinion. I dont recall anyone saying it was a robbery

everyone is scoring this fight so differently. i had the first few rounds clearly for froch. froch controlled the fight with his jab hitting kessler in the face as he came in with ineffective aggression. kessler didn't start to shine until the mid rounds when froch got more comfortable and started moving forward. kessler got the better end of the exchanges. the later rounds were close. could have gone either way but i gave kessler the last two rounds. i had it a draw 114-114.

Thanks well lets put it this way...if you give froch 1 (which you couldve) I definitely liked kessler in 9. That still makes it 7-5. The other debatable rounds for me were 12 and 3 and if you give froch 1 of those then the fight is still a draw. But for me 12 was definitely a kessler round, he had less left in his legs so when froch landed shots they were looking worse then what they were but he was just exhausted, but I gave him the round based on his workrate and the fact that he ended the round on top Yeah man, I get you. What I loved about that 12th round was just when Kessler looked so exhausted with 20 seconds left, he just charged forward with 10 seconds left and landed some great shots.

Very good post. 7-5 Kessler I agree with. Thanks well lets put it this way...if you give froch 1 (which you couldve) I definitely liked kessler in 9. That still makes it 7-5. The other debatable rounds for me were 12 and 3 and if you give froch 1 of those then the fight is still a draw. But for me 12 was definitely a kessler round, he had less left in his legs so when froch landed shots they were looking worse then what they were but he was just exhausted, but I gave him the round based on his workrate and the fact that he ended the round on top

This is excellent scoring. 7-5 or 8-4 Kessler seems about right. Thank you that took me a while lol I have no vested interest in either fighter, I like what both guys bring to the table but am not a particular fan. I like some of the things kessler does in a boxing ring, and I like that carl froch competes with all these guys even though he is lacking in skill and technique. I call it how I see it and I honestly couldn't see more than a draw for froch, and like I said I had it more like 7-5 to kessler. You must score for ring generalship and for me the quality skillful shots came from kessler, in the close rounds that plus the extra workrate gave him the edge for me. Good fight though

round 1 to kessler, could have been given even I thought kessler did a better job of backing froch up both landed some jabs kessler landed right hand to the body, froch was given credit for landing a right hand, but as I slowed it down on sky plus, actually landed on kesslers shoulder, anyway gave kessler the round for ring generalship but concede was too close to really call round 2 - kessler - backed froch even more, landed 3 solid straight right hands to froch's body in the first minute, ate some jabs but landed some of his own again on the more snappy delivered on the front foot, lands a solid left hook to the body in the last 30 seconds, threw a couple of 3-4 punch combinations which didn't land too clean but did enough to win the round. round 3 - kessler - very hard round to score, froch out-jabs kessler for the 30 seconds, kessler answers back with some more hard straight rights to the body the last of which causes froch to clearly wince and back pedal, froch answers back with a left hook right hand combo, best punches in the round. The last minute kessler does well with his jab sticks froch and uses his feet to avoid counters and lands another good 1-2 to the body. Could have gone either way but kessler clearly landed more and the 1-2 by froch was not enough to steal it. round 4 - froch - kessler walks out and rips froch with another straight right to the body. Froch throwing a lot of jabs but kessler's head movement and defense is better in this round and making him miss. Froch lands a good counter right followed by another huge right hand, best punch of the fight up to that point. Kessler answers with some decent body work but froch does well with the jab and wins the round of the 2 right hands, but again very close round. round 5 - froch - not really disputable round 6-8 think everyone agrees kessler rounds round 9 - first minute both exchanging jabs, froch's jab is a little lazy. Kessler backs froch onto the ropes side steps and hits him with a right left combination to head and body, froch misses with a wild left hook backs up to the ropes and kessler lands a thudding left hook to the body. Froch throws a 4 punch combo which commentators go crazy over but only one punch actually landed kessler goes back to the left right to the body and lands it another 2 or 3 times before the end of the round. Kessler lands a right hand similar to the one which buckled froch in the 8th, this time froch answers with a left uppercut/hook. Kessler answers with yet another straight right to the body and throws a left uppercut behind it this time which lands. Froch tries to steal the round in the last 20 seconds with scrappy work, lands a couple but not enough. Commentators got this round badly wrong watch it with no sound and you'l see how ineffective froch's work in the last 30 seconds is. Round 10 - froch round for me pulls away in the last minute close but clear. Round 11 - froch - really close round kessler does well in the first minute, froch evens it out with a huge right hand in the middle of the round, kessler answers with a big right of his own, think froch steals it by showing real heart in the last 30 seconds getting the better of the exchanges. round 12 - both missing with wild tired looking punches, kessler lands the first decent combination of the round doubling up the left jab and landing a glancing right, froch lands some good jabs, kessler lands his trusty right to the body, kessler lands a looping left hook and comes in and lands a 1-2 and avoids the counter using his feet, froch tries to grab kessler around the head and hit him with his free hand and misses... they clinch. Froch goes after kessler lands a jab and misses the following right, they exchange punches nothing clean, froch lands a left hook on the inside. They exchange big left hooks twice froch's do more damage yet its kessler that pushes forward, lands a big right on froch who is up against the ropes but does well to slip kesslers follow up attack. They exchange more punches both landing clean, kessler this time gets backed up to the ropes and they clinch with 30 seconds left. Froch initiates another attack lands a 2 headshots and a body shot kessler clinches. Kessler pushes froch back lands a right hand and a couple of left hooks to punctuate the end of the fight. Kessler although seemed to be the more tired fighter threw more punches and landed more punches close but clearly a kessler round for me...he wanted it more Watched the fight whilst on my lap top, and watched inconclusive parts in slow motion. kessler: 1,2,3,6,7,8,12 Froch: 4,5,10,11 Could call 9 and 1 even and 3 and 12 were debatable Very good post. 7-5 Kessler I agree with.

agreed This is excellent scoring. 7-5 or 8-4 Kessler seems about right. top notch post sunny and very detailed and how the fight went so case closed , let it drop slimshandy and glassjaw u guys are just upset froch lost . he will probs beat abe so dont dwell too long on him losing too a fading kessler at least kessler was a full blown smw artur isnt

round 1 to kessler, could have been given even I thought kessler did a better job of backing froch up both landed some jabs kessler landed right hand to the body, froch was given credit for landing a right hand, but as I slowed it down on sky plus, actually landed on kesslers shoulder, anyway gave kessler the round for ring generalship but concede was too close to really call round 2 - kessler - backed froch even more, landed 3 solid straight right hands to froch's body in the first minute, ate some jabs but landed some of his own again on the more snappy delivered on the front foot, lands a solid left hook to the body in the last 30 seconds, threw a couple of 3-4 punch combinations which didn't land too clean but did enough to win the round. round 3 - kessler - very hard round to score, froch out-jabs kessler for the 30 seconds, kessler answers back with some more hard straight rights to the body the last of which causes froch to clearly wince and back pedal, froch answers back with a left hook right hand combo, best punches in the round. The last minute kessler does well with his jab sticks froch and uses his feet to avoid counters and lands another good 1-2 to the body. Could have gone either way but kessler clearly landed more and the 1-2 by froch was not enough to steal it. round 4 - froch - kessler walks out and rips froch with another straight right to the body. Froch throwing a lot of jabs but kessler's head movement and defense is better in this round and making him miss. Froch lands a good counter right followed by another huge right hand, best punch of the fight up to that point. Kessler answers with some decent body work but froch does well with the jab and wins the round of the 2 right hands, but again very close round. round 5 - froch - not really disputable round 6-8 think everyone agrees kessler rounds round 9 - first minute both exchanging jabs, froch's jab is a little lazy. Kessler backs froch onto the ropes side steps and hits him with a right left combination to head and body, froch misses with a wild left hook backs up to the ropes and kessler lands a thudding left hook to the body. Froch throws a 4 punch combo which commentators go crazy over but only one punch actually landed kessler goes back to the left right to the body and lands it another 2 or 3 times before the end of the round. Kessler lands a right hand similar to the one which buckled froch in the 8th, this time froch answers with a left uppercut/hook. Kessler answers with yet another straight right to the body and throws a left uppercut behind it this time which lands. Froch tries to steal the round in the last 20 seconds with scrappy work, lands a couple but not enough. Commentators got this round badly wrong watch it with no sound and you'l see how ineffective froch's work in the last 30 seconds is. Round 10 - froch round for me pulls away in the last minute close but clear. Round 11 - froch - really close round kessler does well in the first minute, froch evens it out with a huge right hand in the middle of the round, kessler answers with a big right of his own, think froch steals it by showing real heart in the last 30 seconds getting the better of the exchanges. round 12 - both missing with wild tired looking punches, kessler lands the first decent combination of the round doubling up the left jab and landing a glancing right, froch lands some good jabs, kessler lands his trusty right to the body, kessler lands a looping left hook and comes in and lands a 1-2 and avoids the counter using his feet, froch tries to grab kessler around the head and hit him with his free hand and misses... they clinch. Froch goes after kessler lands a jab and misses the following right, they exchange punches nothing clean, froch lands a left hook on the inside. They exchange big left hooks twice froch's do more damage yet its kessler that pushes forward, lands a big right on froch who is up against the ropes but does well to slip kesslers follow up attack. They exchange more punches both landing clean, kessler this time gets backed up to the ropes and they clinch with 30 seconds left. Froch initiates another attack lands a 2 headshots and a body shot kessler clinches. Kessler pushes froch back lands a right hand and a couple of left hooks to punctuate the end of the fight. Kessler although seemed to be the more tired fighter threw more punches and landed more punches close but clearly a kessler round for me...he wanted it more Watched the fight whilst on my lap top, and watched inconclusive parts in slow motion. kessler: 1,2,3,6,7,8,12 Froch: 4,5,10,11 Could call 9 and 1 even and 3 and 12 were debatable This is excellent scoring. 7-5 or 8-4 Kessler seems about right.

Post your round by round. Oh gosh I can't be arsed anymore with this nonsense. As the poll's proved your in a smaller percentile as in who you thought won the fight, you asked I told

Oh gosh I can't be arsed anymore with this nonsense. You're the one talking nonsense, for the most part.

Oh gosh I can't be arsed anymore with this nonsense.

Post your round by round. round 1 to kessler, could have been given even I thought kessler did a better job of backing froch up both landed some jabs kessler landed right hand to the body, froch was given credit for landing a right hand, but as I slowed it down on sky plus, actually landed on kesslers shoulder, anyway gave kessler the round for ring generalship but concede was too close to really call round 2 - kessler - backed froch even more, landed 3 solid straight right hands to froch's body in the first minute, ate some jabs but landed some of his own again on the more snappy delivered on the front foot, lands a solid left hook to the body in the last 30 seconds, threw a couple of 3-4 punch combinations which didn't land too clean but did enough to win the round. round 3 - kessler - very hard round to score, froch out-jabs kessler for the 30 seconds, kessler answers back with some more hard straight rights to the body the last of which causes froch to clearly wince and back pedal, froch answers back with a left hook right hand combo, best punches in the round. The last minute kessler does well with his jab sticks froch and uses his feet to avoid counters and lands another good 1-2 to the body. Could have gone either way but kessler clearly landed more and the 1-2 by froch was not enough to steal it. round 4 - froch - kessler walks out and rips froch with another straight right to the body. Froch throwing a lot of jabs but kessler's head movement and defense is better in this round and making him miss. Froch lands a good counter right followed by another huge right hand, best punch of the fight up to that point. Kessler answers with some decent body work but froch does well with the jab and wins the round of the 2 right hands, but again very close round. round 5 - froch - not really disputable round 6-8 think everyone agrees kessler rounds round 9 - first minute both exchanging jabs, froch's jab is a little lazy. Kessler backs froch onto the ropes side steps and hits him with a right left combination to head and body, froch misses with a wild left hook backs up to the ropes and kessler lands a thudding left hook to the body. Froch throws a 4 punch combo which commentators go crazy over but only one punch actually landed kessler goes back to the left right to the body and lands it another 2 or 3 times before the end of the round. Kessler lands a right hand similar to the one which buckled froch in the 8th, this time froch answers with a left uppercut/hook. Kessler answers with yet another straight right to the body and throws a left uppercut behind it this time which lands. Froch tries to steal the round in the last 20 seconds with scrappy work, lands a couple but not enough. Commentators got this round badly wrong watch it with no sound and you'l see how ineffective froch's work in the last 30 seconds is. Round 10 - froch round for me pulls away in the last minute close but clear. Round 11 - froch - really close round kessler does well in the first minute, froch evens it out with a huge right hand in the middle of the round, kessler answers with a big right of his own, think froch steals it by showing real heart in the last 30 seconds getting the better of the exchanges. round 12 - both missing with wild tired looking punches, kessler lands the first decent combination of the round doubling up the left jab and landing a glancing right, froch lands some good jabs, kessler lands his trusty right to the body, kessler lands a looping left hook and comes in and lands a 1-2 and avoids the counter using his feet, froch tries to grab kessler around the head and hit him with his free hand and misses... they clinch. Froch goes after kessler lands a jab and misses the following right, they exchange punches nothing clean, froch lands a left hook on the inside. They exchange big left hooks twice froch's do more damage yet its kessler that pushes forward, lands a big right on froch who is up against the ropes but does well to slip kesslers follow up attack. They exchange more punches both landing clean, kessler this time gets backed up to the ropes and they clinch with 30 seconds left. Froch initiates another attack lands a 2 headshots and a body shot kessler clinches. Kessler pushes froch back lands a right hand and a couple of left hooks to punctuate the end of the fight. Kessler although seemed to be the more tired fighter threw more punches and landed more punches close but clearly a kessler round for me...he wanted it more Watched the fight whilst on my lap top, and watched inconclusive parts in slow motion. kessler: 1,2,3,6,7,8,12 Froch: 4,5,10,11 Could call 9 and 1 even and 3 and 12 were debatable

can u He knew that he was on a Sauerland promoted show in Denmark with Tilleman as a judge dude. Froch isn't stupid. explain why frochs trainer admitted froch lost a close fight today do u know better than frochs own trainer then that was ringside

LOL thats about the funniest post I ever read on this board. Froch and his corner knew he lost right away, that should tell you something:la: He knew that he was on a Sauerland promoted show in Denmark with Tilleman as a judge dude. Froch isn't stupid.

I have yet to see anyone explain how Kessler won any of the first 5 rounds. Let alone all 4/5 of them as some people claim!

Don't even mention Dirrell that guy is a disgrace. Froch showed how you go into a home town fighters backyard and give them a beating. Froch easily outboxed and landed flush power shots for the first 5 rounds. Couple that with his jab, jab, jab jab jab in Kessler's face. People keep going on about Kessler's body shots. Lmfao - sure, he landed probably 5-6 in the first 5-6 rounds. Big deal when Froch was landing bombs to the head of Kessler, coupled with stiff jabs and his own body work. Suarerland STOLE that belt from Froch. Absolutely sickening way to treat a champion that beat you up in your own back yard. LOL thats about the funniest post I ever read on this board. Froch and his corner knew he lost right away, that should tell you something:la:

Funnily enough, I felt Kessler did a bit of a Calzaghe at times - unloading five/six punch combinations in which on average two punches half connected. While Froch missed bad when he missed, I felt he generally was the more accurate puncher. I'd be very interested in seeing the stats (not that I trust them completely). Yeah that's true, Kessler had trouble with Froch's ranginess and it made it quite an awkward task for him to land clean punches. I liked how Froch was punching straight through Kessler's guard and landing when he threw, but he just didn't do it enough and was too content to let Kessler dictate the action.

i wasnt aiming at u m8 Well I'm certainly not saying anything about a robbery (not that I think you're talking about me as such). I think it was an extremely close and competitive fight that I felt Froch edged. I have no problem with Kessler winning. was just meaning the nutthuggers who theres only mainly two really who are shouting robbery are a disgrace to these forums tbh , 1 actually judges fights based on how a fighters face looks after a fight lol . it was a very close fight and if it was in notts froch would have got edge by a point or 2 but u cant look at fights that way as if you do u need to look at fact loads of fights would have been different outcomes

Froch did land the jab while Kessler was coming in but to me they didn't seem to achieve anything whereas Kessler's jab was actually being used to keep Froch where he wanted him. Froch landed some good jabs in there, particularly early on, but I don't think they were enough to tip the scales by gaining points in effective aggression and clean punching. Froch also did a good job of keeping Kessler from landing up top for most of the fight, but he still allowed Kessler to offer more in the way of offense than he did himself. It was a close and competitive fight with quite a few subjective rounds but I think Kessler definitely deserved his win. I also think if Froch placed less emphasis on boxing Kessler and more on attacking him, he would have knocked him out late. Funnily enough, I felt Kessler did a bit of a Calzaghe at times - unloading five/six punch combinations in which on average two punches half connected. While Froch missed bad when he missed, I felt he generally was the more accurate puncher. I'd be very interested in seeing the stats (not that I trust them completely).

Froch was the aggressor the whole fight. (even backing up) I really want to see some punch stats because I know for a FACT Kessler didn't land more than Froch. Froch the aggressor the whole fight? What the **** are you on about mate? I watched the fight live via. a bad stream, but today I have watched it several times in good quality.. Kessler was the aggressor throughout the fight. Kessler was the more active fighter, Froch didn't do enough. Kessler landed more punches. Kessler arguably had the best combos. Kessler threw more combos.. though a lot of them missed. If you watch the fight, and actually PAY ATTENTION, both fighters were hitting air a lot of the time, not just Kessler. Also, in the early rounds, many of Frochs punches went to Kesslers guard. Kessler landed a lot of body punches and obviously worked. It was a close fight, however.. But the best man on that night won. Live with it. The majority agrees with me.