So why isnt Wladimer top 10 P4P?

he's now in top p4p list in ring IMO

For some reason, HW's aren't often put on the P4P list, from what I know anyway. Lennox made the top ten in 2 different years.

For some reason, HW's aren't often put on the P4P list, from what I know anyway. If it is p4p doesn't it include all fighters regardless of weight class?

For some reason, HW's aren't often put on the P4P list, from what I know anyway.

i bet you picked peter over wladimir and vitali before the fights..... but now you call him a bum No I didnt. I knew Peter would get destroyde because he's a bum.

i like how haters bring up the peter fight....... first off... for the wlad fight 1. only 1 of the 3 knockdowns was a legitimate knockdown..... the other ones should not of been counted (1 was a push, and another 1 was a hit behind the back of the head) 2. does it matter, wlad still dominated and beat the shit out of peter..... and for the fight with vitali vitali wooped peter.. coming back from a 4 year layoff....... Peter is a great fighter. What an achievement.

when you talk about fighters being pound for pound you are usually talking about guys that can fight at different weights and be great at whatever weight they fight like hearns, leonard, duran, pacquiao, mayweather...etc wlad only fights in the heavyweight division so he can't really qualify for a pound for pound accolades

You cant be P4P without beating a great fighter. Something NEITHER Klit has done.

FAO: MUG There was only ONE legit knockdown in the Wlad/Peter fight....Wlad dominated the fight and had Peter badly hurt and out on his feet in the 12th round. If there was a 13th round Peter would've got KTFO by Wlad. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2009/2369939682_2ef72a70ba.jpg Did he dominate this fight? It must be quite embarrassing for a man to weigh 245ib with a height 6'6'' and have a Glass Chin. Right in the seat of his pants.

It's the white part way more than the not being an american part.... Obviously. For some strange reason most of the media attention and hype has gone to the lower weight classes now.....

Wlad's record: http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=7035&cat=boxer Many of his opponents WEIGHED MORE THAN HE DID: Thompson Rahman Austin Jefferson Moli McCline Koch Shaheed Purrity Pannell Dixon LaRosa McIntyre Botowamungu Martin x 2 Monroe x 2 Wolfgramme G. Williamson Maciel For those 21 fights and a few others Wlad's opponents were bigger than he is. Frans Botha weighed exactly the same. About ten others were very close to the same weight... Why not admit you hate Wladimir because he's white, QUELOQUE? The funny thing is, he picked both Arreola and Chambers to beat the Klitschkos, but when the Klitschkos won, he keeps talking shit about them :lol1:

http://www.secondsout.com/pound-4-pound http://www.ringtv.com/ratings/ http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/4181323.stm like i said we can argue all day wlads resume is weak as shit. Ok, that's 3, I have posted 6. Keep them coming, if you have more.

The P4P list is how good the fighters are if they were around the same size, if Wlad didn't have the size advantage he wouldn't be able to do what he does now to his opponents. ridicuous. most guys wlads size are slow. size can be as much a handicap as it can an advantage. wlad would be even quicker if he was smaller and his left rights would still be knocking guys out. he's top 10 lb4lb. end of story

Come on, it doesn't matter if it's not the strongest division. If you're that dominant you deserve to be in the P4P Top Ten. Wlad is an unfortunate victim of his own ability, much in the same way that Mayweather is. Not to say he's Mayweather's equal, but because he makes his opponents look so bad everyone bemoans the level of opposition. Fact is, Wlad is a ****in beast of a heavyweight, just like his brother. You don't dominate for that long without being a great fighter. I'm sorry. You just don't. Let's get real for a second here.

http://www.secondsout.com/pound-4-pound http://www.ringtv.com/ratings/ http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/4181323.stm like i said we can argue all day wlads resume is weak as shit.

nope just nope... dont resort to name calling because your hero is nothing more than the best of a bad (very bad) bunch Don't ignore the facts presented before you just because they destroy your argument. You're welcome to present a list of rankings that don't include Wlad in the top 10, if you're not willing to do it, however, **** off.

Wlad indeed is on most boxing experts and respected P4P lists, moron, didn't you see the list I provided earlier? nope just nope... dont resort to name calling because your hero is nothing more than the best of a bad (very bad) bunch

yeah wins against Chagaev and Byrd do not warrant p4p status in my opinion if haye signs to fight anyone else other than either klit in his next fight i will hold my hands up and admit he’s a coward. I only give haye about a 20% chance against either anyway At the end of the day wlad is not on most boxing experts and respected p4p lists for a reason you can argue about it until the cows come home we will never agree maybe if wlad was around in a time when the heavyweight division wasn’t so disgraceful he might have a shout but that’s all subjective that’s all I have to say on the matter im not a hater I do find him boring to watch and I wouldn’t have him on my top 10 p4p list I think most people share that opinion but I wouldn’t class that as hate Wlad indeed is on most boxing experts and respected P4P lists, moron, didn't you see the list I provided earlier?

Of course he did, and you were wrong, as usual. How to spot a hater: they keep bringing up Wlad's losses to Sanders and Purrity even though they mean shit right now. Chagaev or Byrd are Wlad's best win. If you're not a Haye fan, you're a Klitschko hater, so you still have an agenda to try and discredit Wlad. Of course you do, the almighty Frank Bruno beat nothing but world beaters during his lenghty reign of 0 (lol) title defenses. Edit: I checked your posts and yes, you're a Haye nuthugger, why else would you be defending his ducking of the K bros? yeah wins against Chagaev and Byrd do not warrant p4p status in my opinion if haye signs to fight anyone else other than either klit in his next fight i will hold my hands up and admit he’s a coward. I only give haye about a 20% chance against either anyway At the end of the day wlad is not on most boxing experts and respected p4p lists for a reason you can argue about it until the cows come home we will never agree maybe if wlad was around in a time when the heavyweight division wasn’t so disgraceful he might have a shout but that’s all subjective that’s all I have to say on the matter im not a hater I do find him boring to watch and I wouldn’t have him on my top 10 p4p list I think most people share that opinion but I wouldn’t class that as hate

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