Well??????????
depends on what you mean by "era".
pac is already the fighter of the decade, so unless an "era" is longer than 2000-2009, mosley is assed out.
Oh I can definetly dig it.. but as I said before, Good Luck Shane Mosley. And may the GODS be with you lol
Better call umm for Mayweather as well this is no cake walk.
I read the post before commenting.....and the rest of your post was good....my only comment was the undefeated thing.
He was undefeated...and at the time (after Hatton)....there were some very "interesting" fights for Floyd out there that had the potential to give him his 1st "0". Mayweather / Cotto.....Mayweather / Margarito.....Mayweather / Mosely.....Mayweather / DLH II......all of those fights also would've been at least 1 milli + in PPV buys....but instead he chose to "retire"....coincidentally during that time...Cotto had wars with Mosley, Margarito and Cotto.....Mosley went to war with Cotto, Mayorga and Margarito....Margarito stayed busy with Cintron, Johnson, Cotto and Mosley.......
My whole point is.....he stayed undefeated by avoiding the other fighters....and truth is...he probably would've been the betting favorite....
Hey your preaching to the choir.But i respect May as a fighter.He's smart to let all those guy's go and beat them self's up.Remember when Leonard I believe was getting gear up to fight Haggler what he did?He retired for that yr and Haggler went on to fight Hearns(If I'm wrong please correct me).It did not make Leonard look less of a great fighter because he fought him.Same thing here except Cotto had alot taken outtta him with war with mosley and Marga's even the Clottey fight foggeta bout Pac.Marga's is hurt but we don't know were he is really at either untill we see him fight.May still has a chance to do what needs to be done at WW.But anything below that he proved everything he needed to prove there.
My man a good gameplan can make you fight better then you normally would no?There is more to winning a fight then being so skillful No?Its been proven threw out history Smoking Joe Ali Duran Leonard Cotto Margas.Get were I'm coming from? Oh I can definetly dig it.. but as I said before, Good Luck Shane Mosley. And may the GODS be with you lol
Come on man every real boxing fan knows Joe game beat alot of old guys at the end of their careers and retire(I thought Bhop beat Joe).May fought a decent amount of good fighters.I always gave May shit about who he did not fight cause I felt alot of those guys were not on his level.But that's not all his fault who would have beat him from 130 to 140?IMO nobody.147 ok he did not fight the guys he should have there IMO but the guy has had a great career and should not be compared to Joe.I was saying he was undefeated as one of the reasons but did I not give you enough go back and read the post(the whole Post again then get back to me).
I read the post before commenting.....and the rest of your post was good....my only comment was the undefeated thing.
He was undefeated...and at the time (after Hatton)....there were some very "interesting" fights for Floyd out there that had the potential to give him his 1st "0". Mayweather / Cotto.....Mayweather / Margarito.....Mayweather / Mosely.....Mayweather / DLH II......all of those fights also would've been at least 1 milli + in PPV buys....but instead he chose to "retire"....coincidentally during that time...Cotto had wars with Mosley, Margarito and Cotto.....Mosley went to war with Cotto, Mayorga and Margarito....Margarito stayed busy with Cintron, Johnson, Cotto and Mosley.......
My whole point is.....he stayed undefeated by avoiding the other fighters....and truth is...he probably would've been the betting favorite....
Being undefeated don't mean shit anymore....so by your logic...Calzhage should be the Best of the Era......:nono:
Come on man every real boxing fan knows Joe game beat alot of old guys at the end of their careers and retire(I thought Bhop beat Joe).May fought a decent amount of good fighters.I always gave May shit about who he did not fight cause I felt alot of those guys were not on his level.But that's not all his fault who would have beat him from 130 to 140?IMO nobody.147 ok he did not fight the guys he should have there IMO but the guy has had a great career and should not be compared to Joe.I was saying he was undefeated as one of the reasons but did I not give you enough go back and read the post(the whole Post again then get back to me).
No, I think that would make the list
Roy Jones
Manny
Floyd
Mosley
in my book. Without the win he is probably mixing it with oscar, hopkins, calzaghe, Lewis etc.
By era here I'm talking 1995-2010, which is roughly sugar's career span.
Lmao dude a era is different then a decade?I still disagree for the decade I have to say a draw even tho May still did not lose he also did not fight the level of comp he should have.Pac was doing his thing.The fact remains he got the P4P title by default he did not take it from May no?May is still undefeated and has fought at a higher level longer which is why he should be fighter of this era.I respect the BWAA does not mean I have to agree with umm.
a fighter's career lasts 10-15 years on the average in my opinion so a decade is the closest we can get to an era. and the point here is if shane beats floyd...does floyd still be in consideration as best of this era? i said no...you said yes, but that's fine because you're obviously a floyd fan. i pointed out the BWAA already awarded the fighter of the decade to pac but you also disagree. I'm just not sure if you would also disagree if they gave the award to floyd.
Dude even if Mosley beats Mayweather he can still be considered the best of this era.The man is 40 and 0 why would'int he be?Pac has done some amazing things and so has sugar but none of umm is undefeated for as long as he has been.I'm think Mosley is going to win but he won't be consider the the best fighter of this era unless he beats Pac Floyd and Cotto again and I don't know if he has that many fights in him.Overall like I said he is the best WW but best fighter of this era I don't think so even with a win over Mayweather.Oh and this is coming from a true Mosley fan.
Being undefeated don't mean shit anymore....so by your logic...Calzhage should be the Best of the Era......:nono:
In my opinion, Mosley is one of the best fighters of this era as well as Other fighters. "The" best I don't think so. As far as the comparison of skill and why mosley would lose to mayweather, he has poor defense and he's not as fast as he used to be. For you to nuetralize floyd u have to stop him from hitting you and, I give floyd the edge because of his conditioning and when he does seem tired he's still smart. He doesn't get reckless while fighting. You have to respect it. I think he's a dick and I want mosley to win but I wouldn't bet against floyd right now. If your defense sucks, you will be exposed and lose a fight. That goes for any and every fight
My man a good gameplan can make you fight better then you normally would no?There is more to winning a fight then being so skillful No?Its been proven threw out history Smoking Joe Ali Duran Leonard Cotto Margas.Get were I'm coming from?
the BWAA has already spoken...pac is the fighter of the decade. and in that citation they already considered floyd's 40-0...what more if he loses to floyd?
you got what i'm saying? or do i hear somebody saying BWAA is shit?
Lmao dude a era is different then a decade?I still disagree for the decade I have to say a draw even tho May still did not lose he also did not fight the level of comp he should have.Pac was doing his thing.The fact remains he got the P4P title by default he did not take it from May no?May is still undefeated and has fought at a higher level longer which is why he should be fighter of this era.I respect the BWAA does not mean I have to agree with umm.
Floyd would have lost by now if he didn't duck the likes of Cotto, Margarito, P Williams and Mosley two years ago but instead fight Baldomir, an ageing Oscar, Hatton and then make Marquez fight 3 weights above his best weight.
I like Floyds skills but when it comes to fighting the best he's an out an out bitch!
I would not call him a bitch I would say smart.Mosley is my favorite fight because he will fight anybody.But is that smart I don't think so.Its also why he has five losses.To me right now I would go with May as fighter of this era with pacmonster right behind him.If the fights we all want to see get made it my change but right now May is the man to beat.The reason I have him over manny is he was a champ in six different weightclasses,is undefeated,and has been fighting at the highest level longer then Pac.What the Pacmonster has done has been amazing and I don't take nothing away but Mays has been doing this for a long time and at a higher level younger then Pac that's my take on it.
Dude even if Mosley beats Mayweather he can still be considered the best of this era.The man is 40 and 0 why would'int he be?Pac has done some amazing things and so has sugar but none of umm is undefeated for as long as he has been.I'm think Mosley is going to win but he won't be consider the the best fighter of this era unless he beats Pac Floyd and Cotto again and I don't know if he has that many fights in him.Overall like I said he is the best WW but best fighter of this era I don't think so even with a win over Mayweather.Oh and this is coming from a true Mosley fan.
the BWAA has already spoken...pac is the fighter of the decade. and in that citation they already considered floyd's 40-0...what more if he loses to floyd?
you got what i'm saying? or do i hear somebody saying BWAA is shit?
This is a GOOD post! It's HARD to say because there is more fighting to be done, U KNOW? I didn't think a fighter who loses to the same opponent 2wice COULD MAKE IT TO THE HALL OF FAME but MOSLEY deserves to get there no doubt. PACQUIAO is on an historic run we have never seened before in the sport. MAYWEATHER is an undefeated fighter who DUCKS the best in his division. We all know he could compete with the best, but in order to become LEGENDARY, you need to fight the guys who everyone thinks you can't beat. So, with that said, if I had to decide today before other MEGA fights I would give the nod to MANNY "PACMAN" PACQUIAO based on natural weight class and level of opposition. P.S. THAT COULD ALL CHANGE OVER THE NEXT YEAR OR SO DEPENDING WHAT EACH OF THESE FIGHTERS DO, SO KEEP THAT IN MIND GUYS. Fair. I see what u mean. If any of these guys lose at this point it still doesn't take away from their accomplishments. I agree