Strange twist in the Williams-Martinez saga.

He feels like thats his only real lose and wants to avenge it..I hope it don't happen but if it does i hope sergio fux him up bad

I get the feeling that Martinez wants to fight Margs for revenge, but also because he wants to whoop Margs' ass worse than Williams did as to send a message to Williams.. anything you can do, I can do better. Then he will go for Williams.

Although the Williams-Martinez fight is the best fight for either of them and for us fans, I would rather have Martinez fighting Margarito next and Williams fighting Pavlik if he beats Cintron. This way the fight gets more hype and becomes more meaningful. This is the kind of thinking that makes fights never happen, how many times you really think there actually gonna fight? At that rate they won't fight til next year, **** Cintron Williams should cancel and fight asap.

I smell duck being cooked. You are joking right. Martinez-Williams II will happen. I'm thinking that Pavlik won't exercise the rematch clause. Sergio will then try and fight Margarito....Arum is responsible for if the fight happens or not. Then he'll get P Will. Martinez just won the MW title, why would he be in a rush to fight Paul who has a fight coming up against Cintron?

Right, like all the ignorant fukks like you who only show that little clip of Tony getting hit in the temple by a guy who was outweighting him for about 20 lbs...this imbecil like the others in this forum probably haven't seen past that minute of the fight to know Tony was kicking Santos's ass before the fight got stopped by that cut Santos gave Tony with that big ol' melon of his. Dude...I was defending your favorite fighter, you bird LOL are you illiterate or something? I specifically said that Martinez should have called Margo out around the time he KO'ed Cintron and the fight would be meaningless at this point because Margo wasn't even at his best at 154 during his prime days, so right now he would look HORRIBLE at 160. Sometimes I wonder about you people's mental stability...LOL

I smell duck being cooked.

I definitely wanna see Williams-Martinez II..but my thing is this Burner..how come Martinez is getting scrutinized for wanting to fight Margarito by you?..do u understand that there's still a rematch clause in effect against Pavlik?.. That means he'd be fighting Williams and Pavlik 4 TIMES IN A ROW!!...while Paul Williams has fought guys like a rusted out Winky and crybaby Cintron next.. What's wrong with Martinez fighting Margarito say in September..and he can rematch Paul Williams in December this year?..

This is what a PRIME Margo looks like at 154: Against the guy who Yuri fricken Foreman knocked down twice LOL he lost by decision. I don't even want to think about what a shot, inactive Margo who would only have one fight on his resume since getting KO'ed by Shane 1 1/2 years ago would look like at 160. I wouldn't even be surprised if Garcia softens him up more, since he's got Roach in his corner. Right, like all the ignorant fukks like you who only show that little clip of Tony getting hit in the temple by a guy who was outweighting him for about 20 lbs...this imbecil like the others in this forum probably haven't seen past that minute of the fight to know Tony was kicking Santos's ass before the fight got stopped by that cut Santos gave Tony with that big ol' melon of his.

Hate who? I dont hate Sergio Im glad he got Pavlik out the way if anything because it was a hassle for Paul to get Pavlik to step through the ropes. Sergio is cool with me I like his story and how he got to where hes at. But..... Bro he beat Martinez 10 years ago. Alot has changed since then no? Everyone knows he was green and no one on here ever counts that fight against him. Martinez had 16 fights when he fought Marg. Martinez vs. Williams is the fight. Sounds like Martinez is taking the easier road. After saying Williams was his toughest test of his career. YES. Including his loss to...................Margarito. So this cat after fighting two huge fights is not allowed to ask for a fight that granted won't be "the easier road" as you eloquently put it? the man got outhussled and beat by Margarito 10 years ago, this is not about taking the "easier road" it's about making a statement and conquering the man who beat him years ago, he left both rematches open for Williams and Pavlik, he said he would love both rematches, he never said "well I just want to fight Margarito, I don't feel like I need to rematch Williams or Pavlik" he has verbaly agreed for both of those fights my man so why are you stressing it? like I said, you need to worry about Cintron.

Thank you. When has Marg EVER looked good at 154? Was he not just KO'd in his last fight over a year ago? So how in Gods name will he look at middle weight? This is a mismatch Ive yet to see one Martinez fan admit that. This is what a PRIME Margo looks like at 154: Against the guy who Yuri fricken Foreman knocked down twice LOL he lost by decision. I don't even want to think about what a shot, inactive Margo who would only have one fight on his resume since getting KO'ed by Shane 1 1/2 years ago would look like at 160. I wouldn't even be surprised if Garcia softens him up more, since he's got Roach in his corner.

martinez wants to avenge his only clear cut loss its just that simple. martinez also went on to say that a rematch with williams and pavlik are also 2 fights he wouldnt have a problem taking.

Martinez vs Margarito would be retarded. Margo is damaged goods, and he's DEFINITELY not performing anything more than 35% of his best at 160. If Martinez came back down to 154 it would be closer, but Margo would still be at like 50-60%. Its a complete mismatch. If Mosley, a guy with no legs was able to destroy Margo, what the hell is his leftovers doing against the 160lb champion? Martinez should have had this rematch a long time ago. The Margo that KO'ed Cintron would have a really good chance against Martinez. He might have even TKO'ed him again. Pacquiao would kick Margo's ass, so how the hell would Martinez-Margo not be a mismatch? Sergio is 35, and at the point where he needs to take nothing but big fights from now on before his athleticism is snatched away by old age. This fight = http://buelahman.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/dog_shit.jpg Thank you. When has Marg EVER looked good at 154? Was he not just KO'd in his last fight over a year ago? So how in Gods name will he look at middle weight? This is a mismatch Ive yet to see one Martinez fan admit that.

Martinez vs Margarito would be retarded. Margo is damaged goods, and he's DEFINITELY not performing anything more than 35% of his best at 160. If Martinez came back down to 154 it would be closer, but Margo would still be at like 50-60%. Its a complete mismatch. If Mosley, a guy with no legs was able to destroy Margo, what the hell is his leftovers doing against the 160lb champion? Martinez should have had this rematch a long time ago. The Margo that KO'ed Cintron would have a really good chance against Martinez. He might have even TKO'ed him again. Pacquiao would kick Margo's ass, so how the hell would Martinez-Margo not be a mismatch? Sergio is 35, and at the point where he needs to take nothing but big fights from now on before his athleticism is snatched away by old age. He should fight Pavlik, and then the winner unifies with Sturm once his contract is up. This fight = http://buelahman.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/dog_shit.jpg

wait wait...is pavlik not going to use the rematch clause?? and how does that work??can he(pavlik) just rematch Martinez whenever he wants or does he have to do it right away?? oh btw i would enjoy seeing martinez margarito 2..

Williams wants Martinez. Martinez wants Maragrito. Williams is like :thinking: Can someone tell Sergio that Will-Martinez was a classic and boxing fans want to see a rematch and not him fight the DISGRACED Margarito. Why does Marg deserve a chance to be WBC Champion or possibly the Lineal Middleweight Champion? life at MW doesn't revolve around pwill. get pwill's cock out your mouth. j/k. but for reals. Martinez wants to get revenge against Marg. IMHO, nothing wrong with that. also probably a calculated move since Sergio knows if he beats margo, he gets some of margo's fan base.

Hate who? I dont hate Sergio Im glad he got Pavlik out the way if anything because it was a hassle for Paul to get Pavlik to step through the ropes. Sergio is cool with me I like his story and how he got to where hes at. But..... Bro he beat Martinez 10 years ago. Alot has changed since then no? Everyone knows he was green and no one on here ever counts that fight against him. Martinez had 16 fights when he fought Marg. Martinez vs. Williams is the fight. Sounds like Martinez is taking the easier road. After saying Williams was his toughest test of his career. YES. Including his loss to...................Margarito. I say let him take the easier fight for once... let him make a few bucks. He's 35 already.

I wanna see Margs get an asswhooping then Sergio should fight P.will after. Perfect!

Martinez has wait a lot, he WANTS REVENGE versus Margarito, after that a fight with Williams.

Right and it was arguably the most action packed exciting fight of 2009. You dont want to see it again? it was a good fight. id just rather see him fight margarito, thats all!

he doesnt. martinez just won a belt he doesnt want to fight williams and lose it. Bingo.......... This is what Im thinking.