IMO Mosley will win on May 1 because of three things....
1)Mosley won't mind mixing it up.I believe he won't be like Hatton running in on Maywether.He will use effective pressure and movement(Yes Movement)to offset May's flow and it will be hard at times for May to figure Mosley out.
2)Who he has fought I know we beat this down a hundred times with the mythical match-ups.But the fact's still are at WW Mosley has sought out the toughest guy's while May's Claim to fame is Baldy and Zab two guy's that would be a hundred yards up the track vs mosley.Mosley fought the best version of Hoya at WW and won.He also tangoed with Cotto Marga's Forest and is still here at age 38 and still dangerous.I believe this will come in to play when the going get's tough for either man.
3)At this point the consensus on B.S. is that you can't teach an old dog new tricks.I beg to differ I believe Mosley is learning the new tricks and will apply them effectively.Let's look at some older fighter's who have change their fight games with success.1.Hoya.When Hoya got with new trainer May Sr he change his whole fight game and won arguably one of the biggest fight's of his career(The Vargas fight).2.MAB.MAB change his styles after the Jr Jones beating and won some nice pair of decision win's over Morales.B-hop.B-hop is a different fighter he now is more of a boxer then the jail house bully we first seen when he came in to the ranks in the beginning of his career.What I'm saying is Mosley just like Pacmonster is a elite fighter him learning new things and applying them should not be that fetched.Mosley has good boxing ability(Not better then May granted)he's got a decent jab(He out Jab Oscar the best Jab in the bizz for this era)and can out will just about anybody.If you think he can't win I'm cool with that but to think May is going to have an easy night of work forgetta bout it.I'm picking Mosley.Who are you picking?
shane mosley is not what he was in his mid 20's early 30's. The fighter that lost to forrest was a much faster and sharper version of shane. I admit that shane is more experienced now and makes less technical mistakes then before, but I believe that shane back then was more capable of beating floyd.
I think people will be surprised at the speed advantage that floyd has in this fight, I think he will be able to land his right hand lead at will and cruise to a comfortable ud. Shane is tough as hell and has a great chin so no danger of a tko/ko and I genuinely believe he has a ko chance but very slim. The margarito performance has created a mis-conception of what point shane is in his career, I think the mayorga and cotto performances are a better indicator. The margarito fight was just a dream fight for him in terms of style.
i can have my opinion but im a dick? that makes a shittload of sense.
how is that a flaw? floyd is a counterpuncher. of course hes fought his talent level, as close to it as he'll get. hes just so good he makes them look beneath him. mosley will get dinged up all night. ill bet your all my fake bucks. confirm and ill convert my points. lol
You have an Opinion and I respect it but your a dick for the way you express it.As much as I would love to take all your fake epoints I have alot of my fake bucks on the line already sorry.Oh and not fighting guy on your level is a flaw look at RJJ No?Do you really feel that Hatton Judah and a blown up Marquez would have a chance to beat Cotto(before Margas)Margas Clotttey Mosley?
I don't force no one to debate or give me they opinions they just write it on this web site for all to see and respond too No?Your just here to learn and that's why you posted a whole opinion on the only way Floyd will lose and your opinion on May1.LMAO Your a dick who can't handle the fact that every fighter has Flaws.Imo notice Opinion.Floyds flaw is that his workrate has been lower in recent years and he has not fought up to his talent level so if he is pushed by mosley how will he handle it.See guy Flaws can be made in and out of the ring and can be a reason for your undoing in the ring.Overall when I don't know something I ask it I this is a great place to learn about boxing there are some great fans of the sport here.But it's also a place to have an OPINION which you and I both have.You can disagree or agree simple.
i can have my opinion but im a dick? that makes a shittload of sense.
how is that a flaw? floyd is a counterpuncher. of course hes fought his talent level, as close to it as he'll get. hes just so good he makes them look beneath him. mosley will get dinged up all night. ill bet your all my fake bucks. confirm and ill convert my points. lol
its not exactly that you like boxing, but moreso that you like forcing your opinion on others. i dont come here to debate-----but to learn.
floyd mayweather has no flaws in his boxing game. tell me his flaws? O no yo can't?
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I don't force no one to debate or give me they opinions they just write it on this web site for all to see and respond too No?Your just here to learn and that's why you posted a whole opinion on the only way Floyd will lose and your opinion on May1.LMAO Your a dick who can't handle the fact that every fighter has Flaws.Imo notice Opinion.Floyds flaw is that his workrate has been lower in recent years and he has not fought up to his talent level so if he is pushed by mosley how will he handle it.See guy Flaws can be made in and out of the ring and can be a reason for your undoing in the ring.Overall when I don't know something I ask it I this is a great place to learn about boxing there are some great fans of the sport here.But it's also a place to have an OPINION which you and I both have.You can disagree or agree simple.
I just like debating boxing i don't think there's anything wrong with that kinda thought that's why we come on this site.Floyd has no Flaws ok your just a dick rider it's evident now.To say a fighter(Or a human being for that matter)is un Flawed is some dick rider shit to say so keep riding and see you on May 2.
its not exactly that you like boxing, but moreso that you like forcing your opinion on others. i dont come here to debate-----but to learn.
floyd mayweather has no flaws in his boxing game. tell me his flaws? O no yo can't?
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You all are making me excited for this fight. I never guess fights right and right now I got Floyd making him look old and past it. I believe marg was screwed mentally for getting caught cheating. I think Shane can stand and throw bombs but he isn't ever going to be standing in this fight, it will be constant movement. There's no way Floyd can ko him, but he'll be landing that jab all night and circling. I hope I'm wrong and am in for a great fight, but right now I think Mayweather will do his thing and make it look like Shane doesn't even matter. I'd rather be wrong but I don't see it.
its so funny you respond to every single reply, sorry just find that rather odd. anyway, you don't know what your talking about and its clear. flaws being your error. floyd has no flaws. but there is more to look at than just flaws. since your not hip to it, ur kind of out of the equation.
oscar lost convincingly. only reason he got a sd is cuz he paid for it. oscar won like 3-4 rounds max.
your a jhater and feel you have to take on every single fight to prove it. thats called pathological in case you didnt know.
I just like debating boxing i don't think there's anything wrong with that kinda thought that's why we come on this site.Floyd has no Flaws ok your just a dick rider it's evident now.To say a fighter(Or a human being for that matter)is un Flawed is some dick rider shit to say so keep riding and see you on May 2.
First Bro Nazim is a world class trainer this is not his first go round.Bro Nazim is looking for flaws as good as May is every fighter has them.Thats why he is looking at old tapes of Floyd see the things he has been doing from then till now.I also disagree that only somebody young can beat Floyd Oscar was not younger and he damn near did it.The right Gameplan can beat Floyd and with Bro Nazim in Mosleys corner he has a great shot to do so.
its so funny you respond to every single reply, sorry just find that rather odd. anyway, you don't know what your talking about and its clear. flaws being your error. floyd has no flaws. but there is more to look at than just flaws. since your not hip to it, ur kind of out of the equation.
oscar lost convincingly. only reason he got a sd is cuz he paid for it. oscar won like 3-4 rounds max.
your a jhater and feel you have to take on every single fight to prove it. thats called pathological in case you didnt know.
Some of you guys got rocks in your fukn head. I dint say he was BIGGER I said he was "propsed" to be STRONGER. I think we all can agree on Judah when not partying with Lil Kim and actually focuses, comes off as the stronger puncher. Keep it real. Cotto is way smaller than yuri foreman how do you think has the "proposed" power advantage in the fight. Sheesh.. u guys just want bust balls all day.
I just saying something similar to my coworker. I gave floyd a lot of respect for the Zab fight. Judah was stronger and just as fast as floyd and was whooping his ass for the first 4 rounds(Quote from Smoothmon)That's what you wrote so thats what I responded to.But still not a good fight to bring up anyway Judah never was thought of to have a chance in that fight.
Dude you wrong May was bigger then Zab just to let you know. Some of you guys got rocks in your fukn head. I dint say he was BIGGER I said he was "propsed" to be STRONGER. I think we all can agree on Judah when not partying with Lil Kim and actually focuses, comes off as the stronger puncher. Keep it real. Cotto is way smaller than yuri foreman how do you think has the "proposed" power advantage in the fight. Sheesh.. u guys just want bust balls all day.
i don't remember the scores exactly, but i don't think any were questionable except that one that gave oscar the fight. 1 guy was watching a completely different fight than everybody else.
hoya had ALL the advantages that fight, and ppl don't hit on it too much. not only was oscar a great jabber, which can throw off rhythm and timing,
1) that fight was at JMW, oscar's weight class...
2) oscar chose ring size....
3) oscar chose glove size....
he stacked the deck, and clearly lost the fight.....to most ppl watching it.
I also know he lost the fight I had it 7-5 Mayweather.You are right I don't know how that one judge gave the fight to Hoya:dunno: But Shane is going to be focus and ready on may 1 like never before believe that.
I wasn't talking about shane. I was talking about the guy saying brawler are 70% against boxers. I know Shane can fight man, don't get it twisted. Lol
Then in that case we totally agree because Brawlers need to be very special to fight like that I really did not agree with that post.
I'm pretty sure your trainer lost fights you know why?There's a way to beat everybody.No one is without Flaws just because may has not been in with someone who could explit that does not mean Mosley can not.Oh and FYI Mosley has skill. I wasn't talking about shane. I was talking about the guy saying brawler are 70% against boxers. I know Shane can fight man, don't get it twisted. Lol
To all the judges even tho he did not win the scorecards were close and Oscar an't no Pwill throwing a hundred punches a round.But he did push the fight.
i don't remember the scores exactly, but i don't think any were questionable except that one that gave oscar the fight. 1 guy was watching a completely different fight than everybody else.
I agree with this but the way Floyd fights he is very hesitant.To say activity won't be a factor is just not a good way of looking at it.Mosley is not a Marga's or a Pwill but neither is Hoya.Hoya was never known for throwing alot of punches like either of those fighters.But judges look at who is making the fight.Which fighter is pressing the action.I believe we will see both of them pressing the action.May is going to make Mosley fight a very smart fight and honestly people are going to be shock at Mosley's boxing ability.
hoya had ALL the advantages that fight, and ppl don't hit on it too much. not only was oscar a great jabber, which can throw off rhythm and timing,
1) that fight was at JMW, oscar's weight class...
2) oscar chose ring size....
3) oscar chose glove size....
he stacked the deck, and clearly lost the fight.....to most ppl watching it.
to "A" judge.....
that's why there's a rematch clause here.....in case we get some bullshit like that....
To all the judges even tho he did not win the scorecards were close and Oscar an't no Pwill throwing a hundred punches a round.But he did push the fight.
i think people score de la hoya vs mayweather far too close generally speaking. oscar did a lot of fancy looking body punching that was hitting floyd's arms. i had floyd by a clear 4 points...
A punch that lands on your arms is a punch that landed bro.He push the fight he push the action Floyd never came forward in that whole fight except the championship rounds.I had the fight dead even going into the tenth May won 11th and 12 and the fight right then and there in my eyes.But the fight was close bud.
agreed, but my point is that shane is not necessarily known as a "busy" fighter. he'll trade, but shane isn't the type of guy to overwhelm an opponent with activity, ALA a margarito or a PW.
"activity" won't be a factor in this particular fight anyway, considering an opponent throws far less against floyd, than they normally do, b/c he's such a quick and accurate couter-puncher....he kinda forces the opponent to "think" in the ring.
I agree with this but the way Floyd fights he is very hesitant.To say activity won't be a factor is just not a good way of looking at it.Mosley is not a Marga's or a Pwill but neither is Hoya.Hoya was never known for throwing alot of punches like either of those fighters.But judges look at who is making the fight.Which fighter is pressing the action.I believe we will see both of them pressing the action.May is going to make Mosley fight a very smart fight and honestly people are going to be shock at Mosley's boxing ability.
as much as I hate Winky's fight game I think he would have beat Floyd. Notice how these super talented guys succumb to these basic ass fighters. Roy got killed by a fundamental 1, 2 combo in Tarver twice. Shane and others many with Winky. Clottey would have done a hell of a lot better with Pac if his balls where in the ringwith him and not in Pacs reputation. Good defense and a jab goes a loooong way. I think that's why oscar did so well against floyd. His jab froze floyd for a few rounds that why he stayed in the fight. I think if u have a good jab and your quick to pull the trigger u can open floyd up for other things. But the thing is I've seen floyd adjust when he does get hit a lot. So then u would have to change your game plan. That's why he gets my respect.
Read a post I put in a post maybe the second page Mosley can adjust and with Bro Nazim he will be showing Floyd something new on a reg basis.
activity wont win this fight....clean punching will. floyd will land the majority of clean punches, and shane is the more "offensive minded" fighter, but he's not a paul williams or antonio margarito type, where they throw 100 punches, and can give the "illusion" they're doing damage.
IMO, if shane "outthrows" floyd, it won't be to an extent where its enough to give him rounds, let alone the fight....not when he's getting hit flush in his face.
Why not Oscar gave that Illusion no?