If Floyd beats Mosley, should he move up if the Pacquiao fight doesn't happen?

If Floyd can get past Mosley, aside from Pacquiao (which seems pretty unlikely at this point) there aren't many other choices of opponents available. Berto is the only elite WW outside of Floyd, Pac and Mosley, but he hasn't done anything to prove that he's ready for the big three (actually, he's kinda proved that he's not ready). However if he fights Cotto and somehow finds a way to win, then a fight between him and Floyd would be demanded. But if Berto-Cotto doesn't happen, or Berto loses (which is likely), should Mayweather move up to 154? There are some pretty good names at 154, but they haven't done s**t recently. Perhaps in the next 12 months they could do something big. For an example if Yuri Foreman beat Cotto, and then went on to beat Cory Spinks (or if Spinks beat him), I'd have no problem a clash with Floyd. Or if Cintron somehow found a way to beat Paul Williams, a fight between him and Floyd would be huge. However, a fight a certainly would NOT want to see is Mayweather-Cotto. That fight has absolutely no meaning at this point, unless Cotto pulled a lucky Sanders and KO'ed Pacquiao at 154, and I wouldn't EVER bet on that happening. I'd actually bet on Pac stopping him by the end of the 6th. There won't be much at Welterweight for Mayweather, but moving straight up 8 lbs will be dangerous, and I doubt he would do it. As for Berto vs. Cotto, Berto would toss Cotto around like a ragdoll. Unfortunately, the current Cotto is less than a shadow of what he was in his undefeated prime (i.e. until he faced plaster-equipped Margarito) - that Cotto would have made a mockery of Berto (and also of Pacquiao, in my opinion), and would easily get beaten by Berto. A further loss to Pacquiao (soon after the career-ending loss to Margarito) has ended him once and for all. Berto vs. Mayweather would then be a fine option, but Berto will get owned. It would be an interesting fight. Mayweather could try moving up to 154 lbs, where there will be plenty of challenges, but they would be dangerous opponents and I'm not sure he'll want to do that. If Bradley extinguishes all Junior Welterweight opposition by taking out Maidana, Khan, Malignaggi, and then serious undefeated opponents like Alexander and Olusegun, then he will be set up perfectly for a big fight with Hatton, which he should comfortably win. Then, finally, Bradley will be a big name in America and Floyd will take a fight with him (Bradley has said he will move up if Floyd agrees to it).

Floyd has troubles fighting boxers his own size and u expect him to fight bigger guys? GTFO. What are you talking about? Floyd made his career out of moving up to fight bigger guys. His only two smaller opponents are Hatton and Marquez, and I could easily argue that Hatton was very similar to him in size.

Bradley will drop everything and fight Floyd. He already said it. Yeah, you're right about that. But still, there isn't enough money in that fight. Bradley is still unknown to most of the public. If he can at least get by Maidana, Ortiz, Alexander and Berto then he'd be a legit opponent with a big enough name. As I said, the only JWW who could bring enough money is Malignaggi, and Floyd certainly isn't fighting Khan's leftovers.

Bradley has work to do at 140, and he wouldn't bring enough money yet. If he beats Maidana, he becomes the mandatory for both the Ortiz-Campbell winner and I believe the Khan-Malignaggi winner too. He should be fighting those guys anyways, not Floyd. The only guy at 140 wiwth a big enough name is Malignaggi, and Khan is about to school him. Bradley will drop everything and fight Floyd. He already said it.

Mosley would want that fight because he tries to avenge all of his losses (and fails), but I doubt Floyd would fight him again. Then walk, unless he changes his mind about the Haymon shit and wants to fight Berto. Fuck that stupid Alvarez fight GB has talked about for down the road. Floyd don't need to prove anything at 154, and there's nobody there he'd get in the ring with anyway. If he drubs Mosley one sidedly I think he'll retire.

Mosley would want that fight because he tries to avenge all of his losses (and fails), but I doubt Floyd would fight him again. Then walk, unless he changes his mind about the Haymon shit and wants to fight Berto. **** that stupid Alvarez fight GB has talked about for down the road. Floyd don't need to prove anything at 154, and there's nobody there he'd get in the ring with anyway. If he drubs Mosley one sidedly I think he'll retire.

Then he fights Bradley. I don't know. May Bradley is a great fight but Bradley must unify the JWW titles before he can generate that kind of money. Then again that may be all thats left.

Then he fights Bradley. Bradley has work to do at 140, and he wouldn't bring enough money yet. If he beats Maidana, he becomes the mandatory for both the Ortiz-Campbell winner and I believe the Khan-Malignaggi winner too. He should be fighting those guys anyways, not Floyd. The only guy at 140 wiwth a big enough name is Malignaggi, and Khan is about to school him.

But what if the Mosley fight is lopsided and Mosley retires afterwards? Then he fights Bradley.

No, he should fight Mosley again because the Pac fight ain't happening. Mosley would want that fight because he tries to avenge all of his losses (and fails), but I doubt Floyd would fight him again. It would be a big risk, no reward situation. I wouldn't wanna see that anyways.

No, he should fight Mosley again because the Pac fight ain't happening.

Also, foreman cotto are top rank guys so if floyd cant make a deal with manny I assume he cant with the winner of that fight. You're probably right. Then that would mean the only possible opponents are Cintron and Berto. But Cintron is probably gonna lose to Williams, so that just leaves Berto unless Spinks does something huge within the next year, which is unlikely with Don King as his promoter.

I think you missunderstood my point. I'm not saying ODH will be a good fight, I'm saying ODH floyd 2 is the most viable money fight if floyd wipes out shane and can't make a mtch with Manny. Also, foreman cotto are top rank guys so if floyd cant make a deal with manny I assume he cant with the winner of that fight.

No...Even Matthew Hatton would present a bigger challenge than Oscar at this point. He's like 37, and he's focused on promoting now. He retired because he couldn't box the way he used to anymore. He said it himself during the press conference. Someone needs to get built up to fight Floyd. GBP is trying to build Khan up to fight him later on, but I don't want to see that, and once Bradley beats Maidana, Khan has to answer to him. Here's how the JMW division plays out as being a possible opponent for Floyd: Foreman: A possible choice. He's just needs two big wins at 154 to become a legit opponent in my opinion (Cotto and Maybe the Cintron-Williams winner or Spinks) Spinks: He would need like three big wins because of his inactivity Cintron: Only needs to beat Williams to become a good opponent for Floyd Angulo: Has a looong way to go. He'd probably need like 5 big wins, and Julio wouldn't count as one of them. He'd also need to get a rematch with Cintron and win. And the JWW and WW division: Berto: If he beats Cotto, then he'd be a good choice Bradley: He'd need to beat Khan, Ortiz, Alexander, and then move up and face Berto or something first Alexander: Same as Bradley I think you missunderstood my point. I'm not saying ODH will be a good fight, I'm saying ODH floyd 2 is the most viable money fight if floyd wipes out shane and can't make a mtch with Manny.

Agreed 100% people can say what they want but Berto is undefeated he has a belt and is a legitimate champion why are people acting like he got aids or something? I said that Pac would get alot of credit for fighting Berto and same goes for Floyd, Berto is a reasonable choice and anyone that says otherwise is a godamn fool or has an agenda. I just think Berto should fight Cotto first, and if he wins then he can fight Floyd. I don't know...I just don't think a guy whose best wins are a close war with Collazo and a KO over Collazo is good enough. Although it would look better on Floyd's resume than Ricky Hatton for sure.

If he beats Mosely and Pac continues ducking the mega fight, I think Floyd should fight Berto. Agreed 100% people can say what they want but Berto is undefeated he has a belt and is a legitimate champion why are people acting like he got aids or something? I said that Pac would get alot of credit for fighting Berto and same goes for Floyd, Berto is a reasonable choice and anyone that says otherwise is a godamn fool or has an agenda.

I think if Pac doesn't make fight with Floyd, ODh coming out of retirement for the 2nd fight makes the most sense. No other fighter can get floyd any more money. If floyd SOMEHOW ko's shane (unlikely IMO) then Bob would keep manny away so he can fight the cotto yuri winner for the 154 lb title. Paul williams or berto doesn't guarantee floyd big $. Oscar come out of retirement and they fight with the max weight being 158lbs or something like that. No...Even Matthew Hatton would present a bigger challenge than Oscar at this point. He's like 37, and he's focused on promoting now. He retired because he couldn't box the way he used to anymore. He said it himself during the press conference. Someone needs to get built up to fight Floyd. GBP is trying to build Khan up to fight him later on, but I don't want to see that, and once Bradley beats Maidana, Khan has to answer to him. Here's how the JMW division plays out as being a possible opponent for Floyd: Foreman: A possible choice. He's just needs two big wins at 154 to become a legit opponent in my opinion (Cotto and Maybe the Cintron-Williams winner or Spinks) Spinks: He would need like three big wins because of his inactivity Cintron: Only needs to beat Williams to become a good opponent for Floyd Angulo: Has a looong way to go. He'd probably need like 5 big wins, and Julio wouldn't count as one of them. He'd also need to get a rematch with Cintron and win. And the JWW and WW division: Berto: If he beats Cotto, then he'd be a good choice Bradley: He'd need to beat Khan, Ortiz, Alexander, and then move up and face Berto or something first Alexander: Same as Bradley

I think if Pac doesn't make fight with Floyd, ODh coming out of retirement for the 2nd fight makes the most sense. No other fighter can get floyd any more money. If floyd SOMEHOW ko's shane (unlikely IMO) then Bob would keep manny away so he can fight the cotto yuri winner for the 154 lb title. Paul williams or berto doesn't guarantee floyd big $. Oscar come out of retirement and they fight with the max weight being 158lbs or something like that. Oscar's done. Now and Forever. Floyd doesn't have great options after Shane.

May ODH 2 I think if Pac doesn't make fight with Floyd, ODh coming out of retirement for the 2nd fight makes the most sense. No other fighter can get floyd any more money. If floyd SOMEHOW ko's shane (unlikely IMO) then Bob would keep manny away so he can fight the cotto yuri winner for the 154 lb title. Paul williams or berto doesn't guarantee floyd big $. Oscar come out of retirement and they fight with the max weight being 158lbs or something like that.

i've learned that w/ floyd, never say never. they contradict themselves so much you don't know what they gonna do until they do it. so I wouldn't rule out a fight w/ 140 lbers or w/ matt hatton in england. I mean floyd himself said he'd love to fight in england. Well I can't say I don't agree with you about the never say never part, especially since jrosales showed me that article about Mayweather-Malignaggi being in the works for March 13th. I just think Matt would be a step too far out of the zone. Nobody would accept it, not even HBO. The guy's best fight was a draw with a journeyman, blown up version of Lovemore N'Dou who hadn't trained for 60% of his camp. At least Mayweather's other overmatched opponents had an accomplishment (or an overhyped accomplishment). I suppose a JWW would be somewhat possible, but it wouldn't bring any money. Malignaggi is the only guy who would have brought enough money for Floyd, but once Khan is done with him, he has Bradley to worry about as a mandatory. It seems like GBP is trying to build Khan up as an opponent for Floyd, but he has too much to worry about with that title. Same goes for the Ortiz-Campbell winner, even though they wouldn't bring enough money regardless. The only logical fight at 147 would be Berto, but I wouldn't want to see that fight unless he got past Cotto (assuming Cotto beats Foreman).