Sergio Martinez is going though the grinder.

ah **** it I was just rewatching rounds 6-9, I'm going nowhere with this... Was on spring break when the fight happened so I couldn't get into my usual weekend fight focus. Edit: I actually had this 115-112 for Martinez. The judges, who did gave Martinez a fair shake this time, agree with me. I think i can score a fight quite competently.

Martinez convincingly busted Pavliks face up and beat him. If you had Pavlik up by two in the 9th, you can't score a fight. I accept that first sentence, and I had Martinez up 1 by the 9th. The knockdown did not happen that late. I had something like 58-56 because unlike Lederman's scorecard, if i remember I gave Pavlik round 4.

Martinez aggressiveness is what cut Pavlik in the first place. You're not even making sense. Either that or you didn't see the fight. And yes Martinez did adjust. Exactly. People are dumb.. Pavlik got cut AFER martinez turned the volume up. It's not like he got cut THEN martinez smelled blood. You guys are dumb. Martinez picked the volume up, and pavlik got hurt as a result. Idiots

Martinez didn't adjust to anything, Pavlik couldn't see after he was so badly cut. Martinez being a smart fighter got aggressive when he realized Kelly couldn't see, but I don't call that adjustment. I'm not saying that I don't accept a Pavlik loss, or that the fight could have gone either way. I'm just saying that until the cut that didn't allow Pavlik to see, he may have been ahead, or at least certainly closed the gap almost completely from the middle rounds. Martinez aggressiveness is what cut Pavlik in the first place. You're not even making sense. Either that or you didn't see the fight. And yes Martinez did adjust.

This was not a fight that "could have gone" either way. It just wasn't that type of fight. Pavlik had success in the midrounds, but Martinez adjusted to Pavlik's adjustments. Simple as that. Martinez didn't adjust to anything, Pavlik couldn't see after he was so badly cut. Martinez being a smart fighter got aggressive when he realized Kelly couldn't see, but I don't call that adjustment. I'm not saying that I don't accept a Pavlik loss, or that the fight could have gone either way. I'm just saying that until the cut that didn't allow Pavlik to see, he may have been ahead, or at least certainly closed the gap almost completely from the middle rounds.

He needs to rematch Pavlik so that he can convincingly beat him. I had Pavlik up by two points until the massive cut was opened. Pavlik had started to figure Sergio out and connect very well with his jab. Martinez convincingly busted Pavliks face up and beat him. If you had Pavlik up by two in the 9th, you can't score a fight.

After the cut was opened yes he did. And I know it was caused by a punch therefore completely legitimate. Unfortunately for you, the fact of the matter is, the fight was either at a draw or how Howard Lederman had it 1 point ahead for Pavlik until the cut was opened. Before the cut was opened, the only convincing thing was that Pavlik adapted to blocking the left hook and establishing a strong job, and adapted to the point where he knocked Martinez down. :boxing: This was not a fight that "could have gone" either way. It just wasn't that type of fight. Pavlik had success in the midrounds, but Martinez adjusted to Pavlik's adjustments. Simple as that.

unfortunately for your opinion, it is general opinion that he did beat him convincingly. After the cut was opened yes he did. And I know it was caused by a punch therefore completely legitimate. Unfortunately for you, the fact of the matter is, the fight was either at a draw or how Howard Lederman had it 1 point ahead for Pavlik until the cut was opened. Before the cut was opened, the only convincing thing was that Pavlik adapted to blocking the left hook and establishing a strong job, and adapted to the point where he knocked Martinez down. :boxing:

He needs to rematch Pavlik so that he can convincingly beat him. I had Pavlik up by two points until the massive cut was opened. Pavlik had started to figure Sergio out and connect very well with his jab. unfortunately for your opinion, it is general opinion that he did beat him convincingly.

If he gets through Pavlik and Williams unbeaten, that would be quite an accomplishment, and it be a great thing to see Floyd vs Martinez. Floyd's a great fighter, my favorite active fighter, but he's more of a businessman than a boxer now. Yeah it would, especially considering the size of both men, being bigger then normal for their weight divisions. It could propel Martinez to a very high ranking on future P4P charts. But If Williams can fix up his defense to avoid the counter left hook that Martinez was landing at will in their fight, he could probably stop him.

If he gets through Pavlik and Williams unbeaten, that would be quite an accomplishment, and it be a great thing to see Floyd vs Martinez. Floyd's a great fighter, my favorite active fighter, but he's more of a businessman than a boxer now.

He needs to rematch Pavlik so that he can convincingly beat him. I had Pavlik up by two points until the massive cut was opened. Pavlik had started to figure Sergio out and connect very well with his jab.

Dude is a beast. War Sergio!

And what's great about it is that, that is just how he wants it. I just watched the Martinez-Pavlik post-fight press conference and he talks about how much he would love rematches vs. Pavlik, Williams, Margarito, and Cintron.

Nearly a murders row of dudes who mean business, at the tail end of his career no less. Man is 35 and taking on Cintron, Williams, Pavlik x2, and if he beats him a second time, Williams again in succession. Hot ****. Talk about being forged by fire. :boxing: Not to mention, if he remains at 154 with his strap, his futre defenses include Angulo/julio winner, Foreman/Cotto winner, margarito rematch, williams rematch, cintron rematch, kirkland, or up and comer omar henry. What a shitty time to get old.