Let's clarify who exactly the VICTIM here is...

I blame the wife, for not leaving him the first time he gave her a one two combo. C'mon a puntured lung? He was ****ing that girl up on the daily basis. She was scared for her life and rightfully so.

I blame the wife, for not leaving him the first time he gave her a one two combo. C'mon a puntured lung? He was ****ing that girl up on the daily basis. In a way she was in a difficult situation.I guess cultures differ and some take this 'till death do us part' to great lengths.Maybe she stayed for economic reasons,what if her whole family's bread came from Valero?I dont know much about them except that she had a really bad life but upon reflection maybe Valero was the frying pan and getting out would be so bad.

yeah man he could haved been considered a victim but this was just way too much and as for the police down there its kinda weird that they would allow an immate like edwin valero no matter what the boxers celebrity to not have a guard there watching in and putting valero in a single cell with no cell immate instead of having in with a immate in a cell and not having him on suicide watch..right here in cali you dont have to be in jail for violent crimes or what not be considered a threat to yourself or anyone else it depends on your behavior and clearly edwin valero's recent bahavior suggested a unpredictable man with some demons that would not go away and shame on the police for not taking proper care of an immate like valero Thats because those guards thought like pretty much everyone on here did in that he's just a cold blooded killer that has nothing wrong with him. Why would he take his own life? He's a sane person, he's just a no good scum ass killer. Thats what they thought and now everyone is trying to switch like "oh, maybe he did have some real brain damage"

I blame the wife, for not leaving him the first time he gave her a one two combo. C'mon a puntured lung? He was ****ing that girl up on the daily basis.

again homie, there can be 2 victims. People always want to act like its one or the other. The young lady is a given. Everyone feels bad for her as they should. Its such a tragic thing but that doesnt mean that Edwin wasnt also a victim in his own right yeah man he could haved been considered a victim but this was just way too much and as for the police down there its kinda weird that they would allow an immate like edwin valero no matter what the boxers celebrity to not have a guard there watching in and putting valero in a single cell with no cell immate instead of having in with a immate in a cell and not having him on suicide watch..right here in cali you dont have to be in jail for violent crimes or what not be considered a threat to yourself or anyone else it depends on your behavior and clearly edwin valero's recent bahavior suggested a unpredictable man with some demons that would not go away and shame on the police for not taking proper care of an immate like valero

When you take the life of someone else as savagely and unnecessarily as Valero did his wife's, you forfeit the value of your own. Sorry, but it's true. You might not think so as a third party observer, but think of the brother of that 20-year old girl, or her mom or dad, or her best friends. She was brutally murdered, and whether it's because Valero was unstable mentally or abusing drugs and alcohol or all of the above it doesn't change or excuse what happened. Of course -it's sad when someone is in so much pain they kill themselves. But, let's remember. Less than a ****ing day since he stabbed his 20-year old girlfriend, mother of his children to ****ing DEATH. Sorry, but Valero was just saving someone else the trouble. This girl did not just wake up stabbed from nowhere.This thing had been building,the question is what was she doing sharing a room with a lunatic?

again homie, there can be 2 victims. People always want to act like its one or the other. The young lady is a given. Everyone feels bad for her as they should. Its such a tragic thing but that doesnt mean that Edwin wasnt also a victim in his own right Your 100% right but I also think that people that do something like this should not be commemorated.

if no one thinks like that then why did you make this thread?

He would have been, had he not killed her. The problem with this whole "equality among tragedies" thing is that it's not realistic. No one thinks like that in real life, it's very playground-in-elementary-school.

again homie, there can be 2 victims. People always want to act like its one or the other. The young lady is a given. Everyone feels bad for her as they should. Its such a tragic thing but that doesnt mean that Edwin wasnt also a victim in his own right