Shane Mosley: The Grand Jury Told Me It Was EPO

has anyone else noticed the increase of acne on pacroid? dude is def blood doping A truce was called in memory of SAM, perhaps you though it might not apply to you!

The faulty assumption that people use is that Shane used steroids for one fight. That is complete and utter horse-doodoo. Shane didn't go for BALCO out the box... he was going for BETTER steroids. Remember, Shane had lost two fights and had a NC coming in to the Oscar rematch. I keep trying to find the interview where Vernon Forrest said that Shane was on steroids. Agreed. not sure why this hasn't happened. The NSAC has ignored it. The same NSAC that the karaoke kids are saying Floyd should entrust to govern the sport. Shane was also given legitimate vitamins, iron pills, etc. Sooooo, his arguemnt that he thought EPO and the cream were legitimate is patently false. What did you think the injections were, Shane? And why would they have to check your blood via blood test on multiple occasions? Re Kelli White: Her doping program began in March 2003, she said, and it included "the clear," a testosterone-based balm known as the cream, and EPO, a blood- thickening agent that boosts endurance. She was surprised to learn that EPO could help sprinters, but she quickly discovered that she could train much harder while she was on it. You could run harder, longer. If the workout was four 200s really, really fast, they wouldn't seem as hard as before. You could cut the rest down from five minutes to three. That's a big difference. Both she and Conte kept calendars recording her usage, she said. His calendars have reportedly become evidence that was presented to the grand jury last year. White took a whimsical approach to her journal, using smiley-face stickers of different colors as notations. A yellow sticker denoted that she had used the cream. Red meant EPO, orange the clear. A purple sticker marked the days of her menstrual cycle, which went out of control when she started the regimen. White said her period arrived every two weeks, and it would last for an entire week. An adjustment in the dosage of the clear helped regulate the cycle, she said. Other side effects appeared, but none of them alarmed her. Acne appeared on her face and shoulders. Her voice changed, too. "It didn't get deeper," she said. "It got raspy to the point where it was like I had a cold. And my stepmom would call: 'Are you sick today? What's going with you? You always sound so bad.' "And I'm like, 'No, I'm fine, I just have allergy problems.' " One third right. The EPO gets injected. The cream gets rubbed on, and the clear gets a few drops under the tongue with a medicine dropper. The clear was a liquid. IN ADDITION, Some athletes like Tim Montgomery, Marion Jones (shane mosley?) were on the full-boat program that included hGH, modafinil (a stimulant normally used to treat narcolepsy) and insulin injections. It was a very broad and comprehensive program that did all types of weird things to your body, and there's no way an athlete who knows their body well can ignore the substantive changes and side effects. Shane's hematocrit level reached abnormally high levels prior to the Delahoya fight. With that type of endurance, he would have been an absolute beast in training. Yes, sir. You are wrong in this instance. Shane injected himself with EPO. co-sign each and everyone of these. You would have to be a dummy to think shane had no idea what he was up to.......it's also a very big stretch to assume he wasn't using his entire career before he got done......... ...also surprised to learn Shane was on the full cocktail......i thought it was only cream, clear and EPO.

I still don't know why this guy gets a pass...not only for cheating and possible for the majority of his career, but for lying for years to the fans and media and CONTINUES to lie.

Shane is an idiot: "The grand jury told me it was EPO". An obvious and blatant lie. The grand jury NEVER tells you anything. Burstein was right when he said Shane is uneducated. i'm under the impression that he is incorrectly referring to the prosecutor as "the grand juror".

He took a combination of about three different drugs. http://www.secondsout.com/columns/thomas-hauser/mayweather-pacquiao-peds-and-boxing Thank you kind sir....

One third right. The EPO gets injected. The cream gets rubbed on, and the clear gets a few drops under the tongue with a medicine dropper. The clear was a liquid. IN ADDITION, Some athletes like Tim Montgomery, Marion Jones (shane mosley?) were on the full-boat program that included hGH, modafinil (a stimulant normally used to treat narcolepsy) and insulin injections. It was a very broad and comprehensive program that did all types of weird things to your body, and there's no way an athlete who knows their body well can ignore the substantive changes and side effects. Shane's hematocrit level reached abnormally high levels prior to the Delahoya fight. With that type of endurance, he would have been an absolute beast in training. ............Okay................

was this stuff even known to be made illegal at the time? lol. why would he feel the need to gain an unfair advantage to beat some one who hes already beaten already! why would he take something that would possibly hurt his long time friend by making him un natural?. doesnt seem like hes the kind of guy who needs any cheating to help him win,got all the boxing skills and natural power to win without anything. seems like stupidity to use stuff that hes not sure what it is though,did he think he needed vitamins ect ect to help him be in best shape for the fight and get sold a big story on needing all the crap?,or did he really know what was going on?. did he really know what he was taking and how it would help,had shane ever had problems getting in shape and troubles with stamina before all this?. i mean from the oscar rematch does he look all different and scarily more improved than before?. i mean look at pryor vs arguello and see how his trainer switched bottles for him and he got a sudden brand new slate of energy and won by KO in the 14th round!!!. thats obviously something fishy. but does shane gass out usually?,then in the 2nd match with oscar he didnt get tired,threw faster,threw more and had a harder punch? and that performance was the best of his career and totally out of character to his fighting style?. anyway,theres no way hes cheating now wether he new what he was before or not.

i kinda feel sorry for Shane watching this..he looks so guilty and afraid at the same time...he just needs to admit that he knew so everyone will drop this..

Sadly he was both shooting/Rubbing steroids into his body. I don't know if he is pretending to be dumb in these interviews or not but he is very talented at being vague. Who knows, maybe he didn't know it wasn't legal to be taking these drugs. To think that these class A boxers aren't all taking massive amounts of Vitamins and supplements would be naive. He's clean now. THAT is 100% sure. Thanks for the info. I knew the Balco thing had to do with the "cream and "clear", and from what I had read, it had to be rubbed in... So I was half right. Just learned about the injections though.

He wasn't "shooting" anything into his body.... I get what you are saying, but "shooting"/injecting is the wrong term... Sadly he was both shooting/Rubbing steroids into his body. I don't know if he is pretending to be dumb in these interviews or not but he is very talented at being vague. Who knows, maybe he didn't know it wasn't legal to be taking these drugs. To think that these class A boxers aren't all taking massive amounts of Vitamins and supplements would be naive. He's clean now. THAT is 100% sure.

There's no reason for you to be biased towards Shane. Let's please not distort the facts. Thanks. Why are you trying to run with this? Is there really a need? Biased? Child please!..... I thought he took the cream and the clear, those were rubbed in. I was mistaken. You can kill it now sir.

"And that's something you actually inject into yourself?" he (Sugar Shane) was asked by Assistant U.S. Attorney Jeff Nedrow. "I think it's right by your stomach, yes," Mosley said, indicating where the drug is often injected. Conte has said he instructed Mosley on techniques for drawing EPO from a bottle with a syringe and injecting it in each side of the belly button in what is known as "double-saturation" injections. Now, are we supposed to believe the bottles wee mislabeled? We have already established I was wrong/misinformed...Thanks again.:wave:

Hey Shane i have a needle with stuff in. Go inject yourself.

so he knew he was taking epo but didnt know it was illegal Apparently he only knew it was EPO untill he was told by the grand jury. Then he says he knew but didn't know it was wrong AND THEN he says, I must have had to know it was EPO. SAD!

Yes, sir. You are wrong in this instance. Shane injected himself with EPO. Cool. It happens.

Yes, he was. Shane took injections. Many injections. I thought what he took was rubbed in...I could be wrong.

how im i supposed to believe an athlete of Shane's caliber completely ignores what he's shooting in his own body for ****s sake? He wasn't "shooting" anything into his body.... I get what you are saying, but "shooting"/injecting is the wrong term...

so he knew he was taking epo but didnt know it was illegal

how im i supposed to believe an athlete of Shane's caliber completely ignores what he's shooting in his own body for ****s sake?

Mosley should have been straight foward from the start.