I hear about people trying to throw Berto's name in with the likes of Mosley, Mayweather, Cotto and Pacquiao, here's my opinion on this: To me Andre Berto is TOOO green still, very talented but not in the category of those big guys, yet, Quintana knocked him down in the 1st round even though the ref called it a slip and no it wasnt a rabbit punch, he hit him in the equilibrium (side of ear), to me he still needs atleast 2-3 more fights, Maybe Zab Judah (known name and a good test), then Clottey (he'll cage up because of Berto's speed, also a good test), a Collazo rematch (1st encounter was close), Paul Williams could be a very winnable fight, maybe Alfonso Gomez since he's been on a winning streak and a decent known name, but Mayweather will crush Berto and he wouldn't fight Berto anyways, Berto is not mainstream level, so will Mosley in my view and Pacquiao will definitely own him, and if Cotto returns to his sharp boxer-puncher style under Emanuel Stewart he will be a huge risk and a possible loss but is yet to be seen, we'll have to wait till June 5th, in my opinion I think if Cotto wins they'd probably match him up with Berto next, for Berto's WBC title, it would be interesting to watch...what do ya'll think???
His defence is all over the place but offensively he's quite good. Very fast though maybe needs a bit more power. Either way, if he got a good trainer who could sort out his defence then he might be a top Welterweight.
Berto would get KO'd by all the top guys, including Cotto. I highly dislike when Berto rushes in throwing punches then eventually clinch, that's going to get him put to sleep on day. I haven't always been a Cotto fan but he's far from overrated.
Cotto isn't over-rated, his 2 losses were to "suspect" cheaters by boxing circles, in my view I do think Margarito cheated but I can't say the same about Pac, he held good wins early in his career, look up his record, he hardly ever fought people with losing records like most do in their early careers, against tough people like N'dou, prime Corley, Bailey, prime Quintana, Paulie Malignaggi, Zab Judah and Shane Mosley, how would you consider that over-rated??? then I'd like to know your opinion on fighters like Mosley, and Malignaggi...two fighters who are currently on top of their game, Mosley is fighting Mayweather and Malignaggi beat Diaz and is fighting for a title next, people whom Cotto beat, and in Malignaggi's case he destroyed him. Nothing that Berto has done in the ring thus far is making these other guys lose sleep, just like what Merchant and Lampley said on HBO.
dude, we're talking about Berto fighting serious fighters before fighting top dogs, Berto defeated Rodriguez for the belt, fine, who were this guys last opponents before Berto??? went ten rounds with a 11-6-1 journeymen before fighting Berto for the belt, Judah and Clottey wouldnt be bad fights for Berto, theyre good oppositon for him, yea Judah lost to Baldomir, Clottey, Tszyu Cotto Mayweather, etc. but he did defeat a prime Corley, and knocked out Cory Spinks to become the legit 147lb champion, trust Dibella knows what he's doing, Collazo, Urango, Quintana???, you think he's ready for top dogs after those three??? you're delusional. Judah had Cotto in danger, caught Money with good shots, lost by 2 points with Clottey, please, get oriented and look up the facts, if he was to fight Judah or Clottey that would actually be his biggest wins and names on his record thus far.
I hear about people trying to throw Berto's name in with the likes of Mosley, Mayweather, Cotto and Pacquiao, here's my opinion on this: To me Andre Berto is TOOO green still, very talented but not in the category of those big guys, yet, Quintana knocked him down in the 1st round even though the ref called it a slip and no it wasnt a rabbit punch, he hit him in the equilibrium (side of ear), to me he still needs atleast 2-3 more fights, Maybe Zab Judah (known name and a good test), then Clottey (he'll cage up because of Berto's speed, also a good test), a Collazo rematch (1st encounter was close), Paul Williams could be a very winnable fight, maybe Alfonso Gomez since he's been on a winning streak and a decent known name, but Mayweather will crush Berto and he wouldn't fight Berto anyways, Berto is not mainstream level, so will Mosley in my view and Pacquiao will definitely own him, and if Cotto returns to his sharp boxer-puncher style under Emanuel Stewart he will be a huge risk and a possible loss but is yet to be seen, we'll have to wait till June 5th, in my opinion I think if Cotto wins they'd probably match him up with Berto next, for Berto's WBC title, it would be interesting to watch...what do ya'll think???
Paul Williams isn't coming back to ww anytime soon. I hope....
Depends which belt you are referring to. The WBO, IBF, or WBA?
besides the wba he took from cotto. who did he beat for the other ones? i know he got beat up by paul williams to lose wbo and beat by mosley lose wba. someone said who berto beat for his wbc well who anonito beat for his
deal.......haahah come on man the same guy who cosme rivera almost ko'd ahaahahha
same guy boldimer beat up who had problems with so many c class fighters and clotty whooped? same guy who chokes on every major fight/ yeah ill pick the young hungrier faster fighter berto against them
People he is a world champion, ok, but who the heck did he beat for that belt??? Miguel rodriguez???? The belt was given to berto, get the facts straight, who the hell did that guy rodriguez beat? No one, is he still relevant? No, you're saying a unknown guy with no accomplishments gets a title shot hbo but Zab Judah a former real UNDISPUTED WORLD CHAMPION can't get a shot??? Yes he hasn't done much RECENTLY, but he is still a legit former champion, has held multiple titles, buddy c'mon you really wanna go there???
who did margirito beat to win his welterweight belts? besides cheating cotto
He is a WORLD CHAMPION... When you get that belt, there should no longer be a DEVELOPMENT PROCESS....
Agreed. The cat is no longer a prospect. He's a world champ @ 147. He's the WBC champ for goodness sakes. What happened with the best fighting the best? I think we've seen the best of Berto at this point. He's reached his threshold.
zab judah? clotty?lol ok ill bet all my points and ill bet loser leaves nsb forever on that
deal.......haahah come on man the same guy who cosme rivera almost ko'd ahaahahha
zab judah? clotty?lol ok ill bet all my points and ill bet loser leaves nsb forever on that
People he is a world champion, ok, but who the heck did he beat for that belt??? Miguel rodriguez???? The belt was given to berto, get the facts straight, who the hell did that guy rodriguez beat? No one, is he still relevant? No, you're saying a unknown guy with no accomplishments gets a title shot hbo but Zab Judah a former real UNDISPUTED WORLD CHAMPION can't get a shot??? Yes he hasn't done much RECENTLY, but he is still a legit former champion, has held multiple titles, buddy c'mon you really wanna go there???
People he is a world champion, ok, but who the heck did he beat for that belt??? Miguel rodriguez???? The belt was given to berto, get the facts straight, who the hell did that guy rodriguez beat? No one, is he still relevant? No, you're saying a unknown guy with no accomplishments gets a title shot hbo but Zab Judah a former real UNDISPUTED WORLD CHAMPION can't get a shot??? Yes he hasn't done much, but he is still a legit former champion, has held multiple titles, buddy c'mon you really wanna go there???
dude zab and clottey would beat berto and yes id bet all my points on those two if they ever fought.......
zab judah? clotty?lol ok ill bet all my points and ill bet loser leaves nsb forever on that
mosley gets hit with ease by anyone he fights. hes the same thing jsut throws mroe punches than berto. but his skills are overrated
i dont know if berto could hang with the top guys or not but the fact he is a top welterweight himself and a champion only way to see i he fight them. like i said he deserves a shot jsut as much as anyone and more so than clotty and others
clotty and judah done nothing to deserve another titleshot. Clotty blew his chance by doing nothing against manny and letting cotto slide. He dont get 3 title shots in a row by losing who is he andrew golita now? Clotty never been knocked out because he just goes in his cage but he still a loser. And judah aint been on tv since he fought clotty hasnt done shit to deserve a shot and im a judah fan. Berto beat quintanna collazzo who are more live than clotty n judah at this point. And i feel he shuld fight manny he deserves it more than clotty did
dude zab and clottey would beat berto and yes id bet all my points on those two if they ever fought.......
He is a WORLD CHAMPION... When you get that belt, there should no longer be a DEVELOPMENT PROCESS....
agreed. they treat him like he a prospect or a contender. he is a champion. if he fights lesser guys they complain he want the best they say he not ready. wont know until he get in there.
well it sort of seemed you were kinda upset before, but hey if thats ur opinion than fine, to me i just think he needs atleast a couple more fights, by fighting Judah or Clottey wouldn't be babying him though, Judah is a former Undisputed Champion, it means something, and Clottey was a former World Champion and has never been ko'd, also not a cakewalk but it would interesting to watch how he copes with guys he would actually have to work hard against to win.
clotty and judah done nothing to deserve another titleshot. clotty blew his chance by doing nothing against manny and letting cotto slide. he dont get 3 title shots in a row by losing who is he andrew golita now? clotty never been knocked out because he just goes in his cage but he still a loser. and judah aint been on tv since he fought clotty hasnt done shit to deserve a shot and im a judah fan. berto beat quintanna collazzo who are more live than clotty n judah at this point. and i feel he shuld fight manny he deserves it more than clotty did
Berto is a phenomenal athlete with not much of a boxing IQ, before the stoppage Quintana was right there with him in a very competitive fight when he has maybe 1/4 the natural ability Berto does.
He is not ready and may never be because I have not seen much improvement at all.
Maybe he will wait around for a bit because Pac, Floyd, and Shane are on their way out, so he could become "the man" by default if 1 of the good 140lbers don't move up.
but noon will know how he will do if he dont fight them. he is a champion and is willing to fight them. you telling me clotty deserve a shot mroe than berto against manny? u telling me clotty will do better than what berto would do. you think clotty is worth mroe than berto? or david diaz? berto is a ruff n tough fast stronger fighter. he has alot of heart. no he isnt as pretty fighting as his talents suggest he shuld be but he still get the job done. and i feel he would do at least better than clotty hatton oscar cotto and diaz did. he is young alive and hungry wbc undefeated champion. WHY NOT?