why not put the pressure on the commissions?

I'm not a fan of this olympic style drug testing for the fights with it being a stipulation brought about from the fighters and not the commissions. my point, and i'm using floyd in this one, since he is the epicenter of all this mess. floyd says he's changing the sport, but, he's only changing it one fighter at a time, and not as a whole. my point being, why didn't/doesn't floyd put the pressure on the commissions instead on individual fighters, now anyone who wants to fight him, which wont be anything to really change boxing since he rarely fights. why not lean on the commissions to make the change with the testing policy? why not push to make it a blanket rule over all of boxing, instead of who one picks and chooses? picking one guy, and not picking another for drug testing isnt the way to change anything in the sport of boxing, where change is something that isnt even in the grand scheme of things in boxing. also to boot, where was floyd during the Ali Act hearing? Hopkins was there, he stood up and voiced his opinion and spoke out for fairness and change for fighters, not just himself, but for every fighter, mayweather only wants the OST for himself and who he fights, saying he's changing the sport is something that is a selling point to casual fans, people who get all their boxing info from espn and local media. does anyone see what i'm saying in seeing the difference between someone who wants to make change for boxing and someone who wants to circumvent the rules to benefit himself? if real change was the mission, then floyd would've gone to the commissions and said this (OST) needs to be implemented in the sport, not pick one guy and say, he's dirty, he needs to take test to prove it and since i've said that and critics are now calling me out, now every fighter that i fight has to take OST. thats not change for the sport, that is a narrowing of the playing field, making less fighters available for floyd to fight, since i doubt that everyone will want to take extra tests that the commissions don't mandate. like i said, im' not opposed to the testing, just the fact that it's not a policy of the commissions. PUT THE PRESSURE ON THE COMMISSIONS TO CHANGE THE TESTING POLICY, NOT THE FIGHTERS, TO MAKE CHANGE IN THE SPORT OF BOXING. agree or disagree??????

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I never realized Pacquiao was the only fighter in the sport, a one man wolfpack if you will. Who said he was the only fighter in the sport?

16y ago

Vasyls_dad

Good idea. Better tell Pacquiao to get onboard. I never realized Pacquiao was the only fighter in the sport, a one man wolfpack if you will.

16y ago

deuce_drop

I would have to agree with you to a certain extent. Floyd knowingly or unknowingly has put pressure on the commissions to change its policy. If he (Floyd) continues to demand olympic style drug testing against his opponents the commissions will be forced to change its stance on the position. Whether Floyd"s antics are produced for selfish reasons or out of guilt should not be the topic. Change should! If change is made Floyd should be given credit whether we like or dislike him for whatever his motivations are. Change always starts with one individual and periodicly for different reasons. To me I could'nt care less who that someone is as long as changes are implemented. I can see if by floyd doing this would put pressure on the commissions, but it wouldn't be enough to get them to change anything. if the fighters all started to do these kinds of random tests, i would be next to positive the commissions would let it be a new unwritten rule. look at texas with the testing required there, from what has been explained to me about it, its voluntary and not compulsory, only required if something is being investigated, weird if that is 100% true, now across the board? all the commissions? i don' know, can't really speculate on that. I'm getting at the point of changing the sport as a whole and not some media drama, go to the commissions to change things. i'm sure some commissions are looking to revise, and i do think that is and would be good, but at the heart of it, nothing is going to happen, overall, because it messes with peoples routines and procedures, their autopilot if you will. There are so many rules and regulations in boxing, in the commissions, sanctioning bodies, insurance, etc, god who knows, now we have the drug testing being an issue with OST, and with all these rules and different governing bodies having their say in what the rules are, state, commission, WBC or WBA, IBF, whoever has a say, but whatever there should be one universal set of rules for the protocol of drug testing for combat sports. one set of rules for drug testing for everyone across the board, thats how the game is being played now, play or don't play. thats how it should be.

16y ago

VWEBB

He's lying. We need ESPN (who obviously saw the contracts) to tell us the truth, even though no one has dared refute what Schafer said. LOL. Right.

16y ago

IMDAZED

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=24343 He's lying. We need ESPN (who obviously saw the contracts) to tell us the truth, even though no one has dared refute what Schafer said.

16y ago

VWEBB

" Schaefer says "random Olympic-style drug testing" should not be a surprise to Pacquiao because the drug testing clause was including in the original draft of the fight contract for March 13. The fight has crumbled in the last week after Pacquiao and his promotional company refused to have the USADA handle the Olympic-style drug testing. Pacquiao was willing to take up to three blood tests in connection with the fight and agreed to use a company other than the USADA. " http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=24343

16y ago

carts

Yes!!! That way it is something that "all fighters" have to adhere to and not just the ones involved in a Floyd Mayweather Junior fight. For fuk sake the fighters on Floyds very own undercard arn't even being subjected to the testing but you Flomos who supposiably champion rules changes arn't all over Floyd and Golden Boy for allowing this to happen. Hypocrisy!!! true! in our faces you can see how hypocrites they are and they will defend floyd... sad indeed..

16y ago

The_Guillotine

To be fair, floyd is training for the biggest fight of his life and doesn't have the time to go crusading right now. Let's see what he does after the fight, then we can determine whether he really wants change in the sport or is just full of shit.

16y ago

the_gent

Im saying OST is a random procedure , you agree to its parameters or you dont , 1/2 a test dont cut it the testee does not say when , Manny did not agree to OST and thats why the fight never happened . Well, OSDT is NOT a requirement by the NSAC, so you can negotiate, and this is what they did, and we all know the result. If it makes you feel better to say Pac ran from the fight, then scream it as loud as you can from the top of a mountain everyday from now until the day you die..Let's see who really cares. Seems like that's the answer to all the debate, "PAC didn't take the test so it's his fault". please..

16y ago

the_gent

I didn't have any question. I already know what happened. Pac made a million excuses so that he couldn't be tested randomly and eventually made it impossible to have the testing. Then he ran off to Texas. The rest is history. Can't wait until May 1st. Zzz........ zzzzzzz. lol.

16y ago

Reloaded

Your saying Manny never agreed to any testing? Is this what your saying? Just want to make sure. Im saying OST is a random procedure , you agree to its parameters or you dont , 1/2 a test dont cut it the testee does not say when , Manny did not agree to OST and thats why the fight never happened .

16y ago

IMDAZED

Now what? Like i said a few posts ago, they did not agree on a cut off. No fight that's what. Does that answer your question? I didn't have any question. I already know what happened. Pac made a million excuses so that he couldn't be tested randomly and eventually made it impossible to have the testing. Then he ran off to Texas. The rest is history. Can't wait until May 1st. Zzz........

16y ago

the_gent

Manny cant dictate how OST works neither can Floyd it is outside of their control , OST is a procedure that the experts outline , you agree too abide or you dont , its random by nature and Manny did not want that and he wanted a cut of date that the guys running the testing said was to wide a window and 20 days undermines the whole procedure . Dont say Manny agreed to the testing because he didnt so again it is his fault , and again I ask you how can the deal breaker be known in the very beginning and then other demands being made by Arum and then after Floyd agrees to them all Arum backflips to the OST that he knew about all along ,,,, it cant happen unless Arum did not want the fight all along . Your saying Manny never agreed to any testing? Is this what your saying? Just want to make sure.

16y ago

the_gent

Let's boil it down to what we DO know. OSDT was in the contract in the "early stages" of negotiations. Both parties agreed. Now what? Now what? Like i said a few posts ago, they did not agree on a cut off. No fight that's what. Does that answer your question?

16y ago

Reloaded

What is the fundamental difference between drug testing and administration of weights and weight penalties? Thanks. The difference is they thought Floyd would say no , he didnt so they had to pull the rabbit out of the hat and go back to the OST that was there all along to derail the fight .

16y ago

IMDAZED

In the very article you just posted for me to read, it says the Mayweathers wanted to ADD the OSDT to the contract. ADD. When did they wanted added, it does not say. So it is a matter of interpretation, you see it one way others see it another way. It is not clear on when they wanted to make it part of the deal. So i ask you, show me a first draft, and we can put this to rest. I am not saying it wasn't there, but i am playing devils advocate here, show me a document, and not some writer who gathered his info like most internet writers, "From some one else's article". Let's boil it down to what we DO know. OSDT was in the contract in the "early stages" of negotiations. Both parties agreed. Now what?

16y ago

Reloaded

My point was this. The blame lands on both sides for not coming to an agreement. It's like saying Floyd didn't agree with Manny's cut off date so it's his fault. Others say Manny didn't agree with Floyds cut off date so it's his fault. Please..this is a matter of opinion. Manny cant dictate how OST works neither can Floyd it is outside of their control , OST is a procedure that the experts outline , you agree too abide or you dont , its random by nature and Manny did not want that and he wanted a cut of date that the guys running the testing said was to wide a window and 20 days undermines the whole procedure . Dont say Manny agreed to the testing because he didnt so again it is his fault , and again I ask you how can the deal breaker be known in the very beginning and then other demands being made by Arum and then after Floyd agrees to them all Arum backflips to the OST that he knew about all along ,,,, it cant happen unless Arum did not want the fight all along .

16y ago

the_gent

Where did you read that it wasn't in the initial agreement? or was that your own sleuth work? In the very article you just posted for me to read, it says the Mayweathers wanted to ADD the OSDT to the contract. ADD. When did they wanted added, it does not say. So it is a matter of interpretation, you see it one way others see it another way. It is not clear on when they wanted to make it part of the deal. So i ask you, show me a first draft, and we can put this to rest. I am not saying it wasn't there, but i am playing devils advocate here, show me a document, and not some writer who gathered his info like most internet writers, "From some one else's article".

16y ago

the_gent

Well Ive shown you where it was publicly printed , so you show me where Arum denies it ? The blame lands on the fact that Manny does not want to comply to OST thats what broke the fight , thats it in a nutshell and thats the reason he walked out the door . My point was this. The blame lands on both sides for not coming to an agreement. It's like saying Floyd didn't agree with Manny's cut off date so it's his fault. Others say Manny didn't agree with Floyds cut off date so it's his fault. Please..this is a matter of opinion.

16y ago

Reloaded

Well, you show me it was in the first draft. As a matter of fact, show me the draft period, because this is the only way any of this makes sense. If not, it is all hearsay just like everything else that gets spewed out about this issue. Again, for your argument sake, even it was there from the "First Draft" they BOTH did not agree on a cut off..."BOTH" so the blame lands where? Well Ive shown you where it was publicly printed , so you show me where Arum denies it ? The blame lands on the fact that Manny does not want to comply to OST thats what broke the fight , thats it in a nutshell and thats the reason he walked out the door .

16y ago