Ok just of intrest who do you guys think is the most exciting ??
David Haye or Wladimir Klitschko ?? :D
And state please state why you think one fighter is more exciting thant the other !
Wow it would seem more people would prefer to see Haye Fight than Wlad...so with most people prefering to rather watch Haye over Wlad ...what is so wrong with Haye getting as much pay as Wlad ?? it would seem 50/50 is more than fair :D :nana:
Very true. But i think if wlad agrees to 50/50 split, then wlad wil demand thta the fight is held in Germany.
Wow it would seem more people would prefer to see Haye Fight than Wlad...so with most people prefering to rather watch Haye over Wlad ...what is so wrong with Haye getting as much pay as Wlad ?? it would seem 50/50 is more than fair :D :nana:
If Haye knocks both brothers out hes instantly the biggest name in boxing worldwide and that includes floyd and pacman. The heavyweight divison has and will always be the holy grail of boxing, its crying out for someone like Haye.
Bernard Hopkins called Haye out last week....Hopkins knows hes got no chance of fighting Haye, but he owns a stake in Goldenboy, so the more publicity Haye gets in America the more money he makes from Hayes next Fight. Everything possible is being done now to raise his profile. People talk of Haye wanting a few more fights to make some money why woud he risk it when win loose or draw he'll make a fortune from a Klitchsko fight. Very few fights can generate serious money both sides of the Atlantic but this can, For the Valuev fight Haye got £5million alone just from sky PPV buys imagine if he managed to negotiate a 50/50 split what he'd get from the sky and the likes of HBO and German TV for his fight
People under estimate not just Haye but Adam Booth, you look at the tactics against Valuev and then Ruiz two totaly seperate styles of fight. Have you ever seen John Ruiz not clinch in a fight before Haye fight him? Hayes not just fast and loudmouthed hes a good boxer
It just been confirmed on SKy sports news both sides are sitting down on Thursday to discuss a potential fight in the near future, its going to happen. The video released the other day could just be a publicity stunt it wouldnt surprise me if the fights already signed. Valuevs probably been paid to step aside or promised a shot at the other Klits.
Hayes not a man to rest on his words hes made his bed now hes got to lie in it, he knows his legacy will be judged upom how he gets on against the klits. Hes far far far more exciting than either of them, look at his knockout ratio, Yeah he dodged an weaved against Valuev, but he out boxed him, he couldnt stand there and trade because hed broke his hand in the 2nd round. He showed in the last round he was more than capable of rocking him
Ok just of intrest who do you guys think is the most exciting ??
David Haye or Wladimir Klitschko ?? :D
And state please state why you think one fighter is more exciting thant the other !
why aint the people voting for Dr Boring stating why hes a more exciting fighter than the Haywaker ???:bs2:
Hahahaha
the Klitschkos have long family bloodlines to Nazis .. in fact wasnt their grandparents Nazis ...!:confused:
Is that why their fan base is mostly german based !??
Anyone wanna shed some light on this !!!!
yeah,likewise
Haye is the more exciting fighter
Haye more exciting people stop smoking the rocks. He fights to a boring ass decision with Valuev and takes forever to stop Ruiz stopping him unimpressively but hes more exciting? Watch most Klitschko fights including the last one now thats exciting
ruiz was a mandatory and barrett was his first 'real' heavy weight fight, if he doesnt fight the kits i expect him to fight a young guy like you say or a chagev type of opponentHold on a second. Haye gets a pass when he is saying the Klits only fight "mandatory bums" but when Haye fights a mandatory we're not allowed to criticize him? Give me a f'kin break.
Haye has fought garbage opposition and I don't see that change. He's very happy with his role in the WBA circle jerk of C class opponents.
Yea but for "excitement" and "saving the division" I think we can demand more dangerous guys like Barret or Ruiz.
Haye raised the bar very high due to his constant trash talking. I wouldn't be so harsh on him if he wasn't so brash and arrogant (in interviews). I understand it's all marketing and in real life he may be the most modest, down to earth guy.
But he now has to take some of his own medicine. He should be measured by his own standards. Quit fighting C level guys and face the Klits. If somehow a Klit fight doesn't come together fight young, credible HW contenders instead of old men.
If Haye fought guys like Solis, Boytsov, Peter or Arreola now instead of these old have-been bums he's beating up I wouldn't say a single word. We'll know more in a few months I guess.
ruiz was a mandatory and barrett was his first 'real' heavy weight fight, if he doesnt fight the kits i expect him to fight a young guy like you say or a chagev type of opponent
just like wlads been doing so ya cant knock it, and hes only fought 4 so far in the heaviesYea but for "excitement" and "saving the division" I think we can demand more dangerous guys like Barret or Ruiz.
Haye raised the bar very high due to his constant trash talking. I wouldn't be so harsh on him if he wasn't so brash and arrogant (in interviews). I understand it's all marketing and in real life he may be the most modest, down to earth guy.
But he now has to take some of his own medicine. He should be measured by his own standards. Quit fighting C level guys and face the Klits. If somehow a Klit fight doesn't come together fight young, credible HW contenders instead of old men.
If Haye fought guys like Solis, Boytsov, Peter or Arreola now instead of these old have-been bums he's beating up I wouldn't say a single word. We'll know more in a few months I guess.
I'd pick Haye based on persona and fighting style, but he fails on getting in the ring with dangerous opponents. Who was the most dangerous guy he ever fought? A 5"11 fattie frenchman Mormeck?
Oh please. 38 year old Barrett? Circus clown Valuev? 38 year old Ruiz?
Haye won't be exciting until his opponents are.
this is a fair post, but wlad hasnt excatly fought highly dangerous opponents lately considering wlad size strength and the power of the guys he been facing, and he still finds a way to make it boring prob sam peter was the last dangerous guy he faced, the guys before him KHTFO.
although hayes opponents aren't anything to shout about he still fought all the top guys in his division (cruiser) at that time, just like wlads been doing so ya cant knock it, and hes only fought 4 so far in the heavies
I'd pick Haye based on persona and fighting style, but he fails on getting in the ring with dangerous opponents. Who was the most dangerous guy he ever fought? A 5"11 fattie frenchman Mormeck?
Oh please. 38 year old Barrett? Circus clown Valuev? 38 year old Ruiz?
Haye won't be exciting until his opponents are.:wtf:
Sorry buddy but you refering to Mormeck as a "fattie " shows just how much you know :tool:... please go away before you get hurt :D
wladimir is alot more talanted fighter than haye could ever dream to be...
so ill pick wlad
but thats not really the question though is it, surely even you can take your klit tainted glasses off and admit that haye is easily the more exciting fighter.
Although, wlad is a very talented fighter, he bores the shit out of everyone but hardcore klit fans, i try to enjoy his fights but its hard when he still using the safety first tactics against guys with no power and half his size, jab - straight right, the odd left hook, if he could add a bit of variety to his punching he would be much easy on the eye
Heck anyone remember Brewster? He brought on exciting fights. Against decent HW competition. Stopped Wlad, Golotha and Krasniqui.
Did the British Haye fans also hail Brewster as a coming all time great? No. So why do the same with Haye?
Looking good beating up mediocre fighters is one thing, stepping up to the plate and boxing the top dogs and top contenders year in year out is another.
Haye has to stop boxing C-level competition. He has to become more active, he seems to only want to box once a year. Also he should stop talking about retiring.
If he wants to retire he should do it on the spot. We don't need to see him rematch clowns like Valuev just so he retires on us after fighting three more bums.
I'd pick Haye based on persona and fighting style, but he fails on getting in the ring with dangerous opponents. Who was the most dangerous guy he ever fought? A 5"11 fattie frenchman Mormeck?
Oh please. 38 year old Barrett? Circus clown Valuev? 38 year old Ruiz?
Haye won't be exciting until his opponents are.
Fattie?
http://ns200061.ovh.net/~alabowda/images/paulo/07-11-10/mormeck_hayes.jpg
one fighter has a safety first aproach jabbing hes opponent to death and stops them when its safe to do so and the other goes in looking for the knockout from the first bell its a no brainer
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wlad = boring