Is it true that they have more success in boxing and have way more advantage????
I spared only two southpaws but didnt get any impression but I am finding that they are lots of southpaws on top of the food chain including other combat sports kickboxing/mma...
For those that have exprience with southpaws or is a southpaw, can you tell me what they have going for them other then have there right side forward and moving the other direction.
Also is it true thats its bad to learn bothsides cause its to much conflicting???
I can see that yeah, but by the same token i believe that aggressive Southpaw's take away their auto defense and hand it over to the orthodox fighter when they become aggressive, most lefty's are counter punchers and they tend to make you fight their fight for the most part, or make you do something that is not your bread and butter, which is be aggressive, which is why i think most defensive orthodox fighters struggle against them, being aggressive just is not in their nature, however like i said i think lefty's give up their defense when they become aggressive, ive watched certain fights where by the aggressive lefty is the one who looks like the orthadox fighter playing the other guys game as is getting countered on the way in.
Absolutely. They always do, speakin about Calzaghe, he was always attacking badly, but he was protected by his blinding speed and iron chin. Howewer, the 90% of the southpaws I met were aggressors, probabily 'cause at a low level they notice that everyone is driven crazy by the fact that is very hard to counterpunghing them, so...
At an high level they tend to be aggressive (Pacman, Calzaghe, Williams, Judah) but there are other kind of guys like Whitaker and Locche.
Calzaghe never fought an elite fighter with any wrinkles to their game imo, most the guys he fought were not cute enough to (counter him)pick him off inbetween his punches. Hopkins and Jones had him on the floor when he finally did meet that type of opponent, not that either are elite anymore imo.
:-D I'am european, I really appreciate Calzaghe and I think he's an ATG (probabily because he's european too). I don't think he never fought an elite fighter in 15+ years of boxing, I just think that none has been really smart against him. The guy, as I said, was helped by his iron chin, btw. Without that chin it could have been another story without a doubt.
Great call, i always HL this when i watch a fight, its one punch that MANY! fighters neglect against a left hander but one that is extremely useful imo, the left hook to the body.I'd like to mention another thing that came in my mind. Do not convert southpaw against a southpaw... I speak cause I'm experienced, lol. You play their game. Asd Cotto (vs Pacquiao) for questions
So did Mitchell and Salem. But Calzaghe is unstoppable, he is the most hated fighter on the planet because he wins. Yeah, then people make excuses when their fighter loses like a loser. Because that is what people are best at doing, is hating.
To me Joe fought a lot of guys that were straight head fighters, he never really fought a smart counter puncher who could pick him off consistently, certainly not a prime one anyway, we saw what Hopkins did to him at age 45 and it just solidifies the opinion for me.
Great post.
I would like to mention few things more. First of all, it's completely useless doubling the jab against a soutpaw. One of the first thing they teached me against a southpaw is jab-right hand to the body/head.
Second, most of southpaws love to attack. Good, if you counter them with the right uppercut, see Calzaghe-Kessler round 4 for that.
Third, they are always worried about the liver (if they are smart), a very good idea is starting with a left hook to the body and then comin' up with a left hood to the head. They will protect themself to the body, but generally the let themself open around the head.
Bernard Hopkins is an absolute masterclass against southpaws. he's like 14-1. Whach him fighting Tarver, for example.
Cheers man.
they are always worried about the liver (if they are smart), a very good idea is starting with a left hook to the body and then comin' up with a left hood to the head. They will protect themself to the body, but generally the let themself open around the head.
Great call, i always HL this when i watch a fight, its one punch that MANY! fighters neglect against a left hander but one that is extremely useful imo, the left hook to the body.
I can see that yeah, but by the same token i believe that aggressive Southpaw's take away their auto defense and hand it over to the orthodox fighter when they become aggressive, most lefty's are counter punchers and they tend to make you fight their fight for the most part, or make you do something that is not your bread and butter, which is be aggressive, which is why i think most defensive orthodox fighters struggle against them, being aggressive just is not in their nature, however like i said i think lefty's give up their defense when they become aggressive, ive watched certain fights where by the aggressive lefty is the one who looks like the orthadox fighter playing the other guys game as is getting countered on the way in.
Calzaghe never fought an elite fighter with any wrinkles to their game imo, most the guys he fought were not cute enough to (counter him)pick him off inbetween his punches. Hopkins and Jones had him on the floor when he finally did meet that type of opponent, not that either are elite anymore imo.
So did Mitchell and Salem. But Calzaghe is unstoppable, he is the most hated fighter on the planet because he wins. Yeah, then people make excuses when their fighter loses like a loser. Because that is what people are best at doing, is hating.
Speking personally as an ameteur boxer the kind of boxer that drives everyone crazy is the fast southpaw who always comes forward. Counterpunching a guy like this is... insane.
A perfect example is Calzaghe (we could even mention Pacman of course) because it is nearly impossibile counterpunching a guy like him, it's ain't easy try to stop a guy who has a very few sparring partners-alike in the world.
The situation is even worsened by the fact that the guy had an iron chin and had an insane stamina.
That's the reason why Calzaghe was a beast, not because he was a boxing masterclass, he was a one-and-only.
I can see that yeah, but by the same token i believe that aggressive Southpaw's take away their auto defense and hand it over to the orthodox fighter when they become aggressive, most lefty's are counter punchers and they tend to make you fight their fight for the most part, or make you do something that is not your bread and butter, which is be aggressive, which is why i think most defensive orthodox fighters struggle against them, being aggressive just is not in their nature, however like i said i think lefty's give up their defense when they become aggressive, ive watched certain fights where by the aggressive lefty is the one who looks like the orthadox fighter playing the other guys game as is getting countered on the way in.
Calzaghe never fought an elite fighter with any wrinkles to their game imo, most the guys he fought were not cute enough to (counter him)pick him off inbetween his punches. Hopkins and Jones had him on the floor when he finally did meet that type of opponent, not that either are elite anymore imo.
Im of the impression that the best way to beat a left hander is to put pressure on them, but here is the thing, you cant look for one punch (the right hand), that is just a set up punch to close the distance most of the times, unless its a counter straight right, what im saying is you have to put that left hook behind the right hand when you get there, basically you still have to put your punches together, otherwise you become too predictable and easy to read throwing single punches, take the Berto/Quintana fight, see how Berto was brining that back foot around and squaring himself up as though he was looking! to only counter with the right hand, Quintana could see something like that a mile away and because its only one punch he can avoid it.
The right hook is very effective against the left hander to, particularly if you get your lead foot outside of his, that way when he pivots away its hard for him to avoid it, another useful tip imo is....... that orthodox fighters are used to throwing the jab straight down the middle but against a lefty that does not work because your almost shoulder to shoulder when facing up, what you have to do is throw a half hook half jab that comes over the shoulder, see Hamed /Barrera.
Great post.
I would like to mention few things more. First of all, it's completely useless doubling the jab against a soutpaw. One of the first thing they teached me against a southpaw is jab-right hand to the body/head.
Second, most of southpaws love to attack. Good, if you counter them with the right uppercut, see Calzaghe-Kessler round 4 for that.
Third, they are always worried about the liver (if they are smart), a very good idea is starting with a left hook to the body and then comin' up with a left hood to the head. They will protect themself to the body, but generally the let themself open around the head.
Bernard Hopkins is an absolute masterclass against southpaws. he's like 14-1. Whach him fighting Tarver, for example.
I don't think so. Not at the higher levels of boxing at least.
At the lower levels, it's extremely hard to fight southpaws because you just have no experience fighting them. Stepping on feet, butting heads, when you circle it's a weird positioning. All that stuff.
At the higher levels, when you go to the guys who are elite or right below elite(whatever you call them), those advantages kinda vanish and fade. Fans just tend to nitpick because a boxer has a different gameplan for southpaws, outside the norm. So alot of fans just say they are having difficulty with southpaws when in reality that may not be an issue at all.
Well if you're a really talented boxer, you can handle any stance from a fighter. Some really good fighters like Cotto doesn't seem to have any problems with southpaw as shown against Zab Judah. Also Cotto switches his own stance sometimes.
Speking personally as an ameteur boxer the kind of boxer that drives everyone crazy is the fast southpaw who always comes forward. Counterpunching a guy like this is... insane.
A perfect example is Calzaghe (we could even mention Pacman of course) because it is nearly impossibile counterpunching a guy like him, it's ain't easy try to stop a guy who has a very few sparring partners-alike in the world.
The situation is even worsened by the fact that the guy had an iron chin and had an insane stamina.
That's the reason why Calzaghe was a beast, not because he was a boxing masterclass, he was a one-and-only.
Is it true that they have more success in boxing and have way more advantage????
I spared only two southpaws but didnt get any impression but I am finding that they are lots of southpaws on top of the food chain including other combat sports kickboxing/mma...
For those that have exprience with southpaws or is a southpaw, can you tell me what they have going for them other then have there right side forward and moving the other direction.
Also is it true thats its bad to learn bothsides cause its to much conflicting???
IMO Southpaw's have an auto defense, that defense is that the opponent generally tries to think too much about which is the best way to attack the lefty, whilst your are thinking you are not getting off yourself but the lefty is, not to mention that orthodox fighters are not used to fighting someone with that posture, lefty's see it all the time so are more equipped at dealing with it.
Im of the impression that the best way to beat a left hander is to put pressure on them, but here is the thing, you cant look for one punch (the right hand), that is just a set up punch to close the distance most of the times, unless its a counter straight right, what im saying is you have to put that left hook behind the right hand when you get there, basically you still have to put your punches together, otherwise you become too predictable and easy to read throwing single punches, take the Berto/Quintana fight, see how Berto was brining that back foot around and squaring himself up as though he was looking! to only counter with the right hand, Quintana could see something like that a mile away and because its only one punch he can avoid it.
The right hook is very effective against the left hander to, particularly if you get your lead foot outside of his, that way when he pivots away its hard for him to avoid it, another useful tip imo is....... that orthodox fighters are used to throwing the jab straight down the middle but against a lefty that does not work because your almost shoulder to shoulder when facing up, what you have to do is throw a half hook half jab that comes over the shoulder, see Hamed /Barrera.
Well southpaws gets disadvantaged too.............when they fight southpaws. :D
I never thought about that,
I mean orthodox always spar other orthodox and southpaws spar other orthodox and I guess what your saying is that you dont get to southpaws sparing as much.
It must be akward though for them...
Most fighters are right handed, so southpaws have a default advantage by bringing something unusual to the table. Of course their opponents will train for it, but it's different when it's for real and in front of them. The southpaws who know how to use their stance so it's not just something that's there are at a great advantage imo. Especially fast southpaws. A lot of righties are a little cautious against southpaws since they fear headbutts and tripping.
I always felt that southpaws can have an advantage for the simple fact that they are the minority, meaning orthodox fighters typically don't have a lot of experience against southpaws.
So other then minority they dont have other qualties that gives them the edge???
Also is really that hard to fight them if you have good foundation in jab and footwork??? For example if an orthodox can move well to the right and left and every direction then wouldent the southpaws opposite movements be dealt with?
Most fighters are orthodox, so southpaws can be hard to fight because fighters have less experience against them. That's the advantage. It's not bad to learn it both ways, many fighters have been successful in switching hands.
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