I cant believe i acually liked this guy at one point. He truely sucks.
--He was showing off during a uneventful slap fest with Junior Welter weight Steve forbes =Embarassing
--He hugged and clinched JWW Juan Urango more in 12 rounds then Juans wife had in 15 years of marriage.
--He complains about legal punches, puts on acting debut and again clinches and holds at everychance against Carlos Quintana.
I hope Miguel Cotto or Shane Mosley fight him soon and take his 0 and belt because he doesnt deserve the WBC strap he holds. Plus most of his defenses have been against JWW's which is embarrassing for a man who started his career at 160.
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so what u think about Hopkins hes everything you posted here to the 10th power!
Hopkins last fight fight was horrid but at least he has turned out classic fights againest Trinidad, Pavlik and Tarver.
Berto hasnt done much of shit.
Evander Holyfield in his first reign as HW champ is an example of someone who kept losing stock with each victory.
Berto's got some abilities, he's got good handspeed and a nice uppercut, but is too sloppy. Questions remain about his punch resistance, and as said before, he relies too much on his athleticism. He must improve a lot to compete with the three big names at WW. Mosley would've stopped him if they had fought IMO, even if the tragedy had not occurred and Berto was mentally there.
I agree 100% Berto is a good fighter with some attributes but he doesn't have the polish he needs to be on the next level. His chin is questionable at the very least (hurt by Collazo and Quintana) not very hard punchers. He gasses in fights (Forbes and Urango) Also up until this Saturday he has not been able to KO his opponents with decent chins. His hand speed is excellent and he has decnt power in hin right hand but his punch accuracy is not that good and he leaves himself open for counters. If he fought a counter puncher with really good timing or someone with comparable speed (Marquez, Mayweather, Mosley, Pacquiao,) or just a big tough customer like (Clottey, Margarito, Cintron) he would be in lots of trouble. Just my take on this one....Lefty
He looked awful.
The only reason he won that fight was because Quintana was a B+ fighter on his best night, but he's contender level at best in the ranks these days. He looked weak, slow, and with no stamina.
The hugging from the younger, stronger Berto tired his ass out. He can't, and won't win against any of the elites in the division. He was holding his arm at times to punch probably out of frustration. I'm sure no fighter likes to be smothered every 10 secs.
Mosley
Mayweather
Clottey (yes Clottey)
Pac
Cotto (if he ever fights there again and Steward brings some shine back)
I'd put a few bucks on Alfonso Gomez giving him a rough night now, that's a guy that has shown me improvement on every fight.
What a horrid style to watch.
Evander Holyfield in his first reign as HW champ is an example of someone who kept losing stock with each victory.
Berto's got some abilities, he's got good handspeed and a nice uppercut, but is too sloppy. Questions remain about his punch resistance, and as said before, he relies too much on his athleticism. He must improve a lot to compete with the three big names at WW. Mosley would've stopped him if they had fought IMO, even if the tragedy had not occurred and Berto was mentally there.
Berto is a stupid/dumb fighter. He can't fight smart and relies only on his speed and explosiveness. Although he has two wins over T. Bradley and A. Dirrell from the amateurs, he hasn't evolved as much as them. Seems to me that Berto is stuck and can't improve as much.
He was not impressive against Quintana who I regard as a C-level fighter at the time Berto fought him. Berto is B-level at best. He got hit too many times and lucky for him that Quintana doesn't hit hard. He will get smothered IF Dibella chooses to find better opposition for his (somewhat protected) fighter.
At least he admitted that he was rusty...I just don't think he's that good at all.
I cant believe i acually liked this guy at one point. He truely sucks.
--He was showing off during a uneventful slap fest with Junior Welter weight Steve forbes =Embarassing
--He hugged and clinched JWW Juan Urango more in 12 rounds then Juans wife had in 15 years of marriage.
--He complains about legal punches, puts on acting debut and again clinches and holds at everychance against Carlos Quintana.
I hope Miguel Cotto or Shane Mosley fight him soon and take his 0 and belt because he doesnt deserve the WBC strap he holds. Plus most of his defenses have been against JWW's which is embarrassing for a man who started his career at 160.
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lol at the pics......i think zab would beat this guy...
Bertos problem is all in his head. He has this need to get in a dick swinging contest with every guy he fights, and as a result he gets into trouble into trouble and looks bad because his defense isn't that good.
I've yet to see him take his time and box a smart fight, never see any strategy, never see any improvement.
He needs a new trainer, a new team, and he needs to take a hard look at what he wants to do in the sport.
I aggree with this.
Bro, he did not dominate. He won he stopped Quintana but he did not dominate.
It was a one punch thing. Berto deliberately and consistently broke Quintana down, that's what happened. Domination doesn't always mean you don't get hit by a punch yourself.
Bertos problem is all in his head. He has this need to get in a dick swinging contest with every guy he fights, and as a result he gets into trouble into trouble and looks bad because his defense isn't that good.
I've yet to see him take his time and box a smart fight, never see any strategy, never see any improvement.
He needs a new trainer, a new team, and he needs to take a hard look at what he wants to do in the sport.
I must've watched a dif fight than some of you. I saw Quintana locking down Berto's left arm all night like it was his anus holding a fart. The fight was rightfully stopped before Quitana's brain jelled from multiple shots to the grill.
I am glad you was pleased, and credit to Berto for stopping a tough gatekeeper. Quintana is clearly levels above every KO victim of Berto. So I give dude credit for that.
But, he did not dominate like you're saying. Before the stoppage it was still a close fight on the cards. Quintana was still in the fight. Me point to you is that Berto did not dominate him like you saying he did...
Berto lost the first 2 rounds then won every round after that and knocked him out. He dominated him.
What do you want from him? Quintana may not be a world beater but he is a tough gatekeeper. I understand that people don't like him because he clinches but clinching is part of the fight game. The hand speed was good and the power was there(I always knew he wasn't an electric puncher but he is a good puncher). He was pretty accurate too. I was pleased with his performance last night.
I am glad you was pleased, and credit to Berto for stopping a tough gatekeeper. Quintana is clearly levels above every KO victim of Berto. So I give dude credit for that.
But, he did not dominate like you're saying. Before the stoppage it was still a close fight on the cards. Quintana was still in the fight. Me point to you is that Berto did not dominate him like you saying he did...
What do you want from him? Quintana may not be a world beater but he is a tough gatekeeper. I understand that people don't like him because he clinches but clinching is part of the fight game. The hand speed was good and the power was there(I always knew he wasn't an electric puncher but he is a good puncher). He was pretty accurate too. I was pleased with his performance last night.
That same guy says Pac dominated Clottey. When he just out worked him. Q got his head knocked off.
He lost the first 2 rounds then didnt lose another one and knocked Quintana out. How is his stock down?
Burner, its how he looked and he looked like shit. He never improves. It's the same ol Berto. Plus he clinches too damn much for no reason. Think about it. The only highlight of his career is when he uppercutted that mexican. That's it nothing else. He has no highlight reel.