Berto...

agreed but you cant pawn off all his flaws on who he fights. i think my main concerns that he clinches way too much and relies almost exclusively on athletic ability are still valid. Clinching is an efffective tool in boxing, sure it makes for shitty fights but if you can't fight on the inside it is best to grab on and smother the other guy when you get to far in, if you are trying to avoid damage anyway. Not clinching hurt Cotto badly in the Margarito fight, while Mosley clinched effectively against Margarito. You can say it makes him boring and hurts his appeal but with Berto's grappling backround that is probably a bitch for any fighter to deal with.

man when does anybody fighting a southpaw look good, Collazo, Quintana, Urango were all southpaws thats a tough assignment for any right handed fighter. agreed but you cant pawn off all his flaws on who he fights. i think my main concerns that he clinches way too much and relies almost exclusively on athletic ability are still valid.

Good fighter. shit boxing IQ. excessive clinching in almost every recent fight. his hands are fast as hell, yet he does nothing but brawl to wear his opponent out. put him against any A level fighter and he will fail. and i like andre berto. man when does anybody fighting a southpaw look good, Collazo, Quintana, Urango were all southpaws thats a tough assignment for any right handed fighter.

good analogy. its a shame what he reduces himself to given the tools he has. if he wanted to fight in such a brutish way, thats fine, but there's a more artful, skillful way of doing that....a way that would make his fights much easier for himself as well. very well said

yeah me too, and i think you hit the nail on the head when you said he DIDNT KNOW what to do.... a lot of guys like floyd have it drilled into them from the time they can walk, others have instinct in the ring like a bhop. Berto has neither. He is like a rolls royce being driven by an eight year old in the ring. good analogy. its a shame what he reduces himself to given the tools he has. if he wanted to fight in such a brutish way, thats fine, but there's a more artful, skillful way of doing that....a way that would make his fights much easier for himself as well.

Good fighter. shit boxing IQ. excessive clinching in almost every recent fight. his hands are fast as hell, yet he does nothing but brawl to wear his opponent out. put him against any A level fighter and he will fail. and i like andre berto. Al Haymon is their to protect Berto, he won't be fighting any A level fighters.

Floyd will never fight the Champ in my sig. Floyd is genius in cherry picking opponents. http://www.postimg.com/14000/13152.jpg maybe at ww, but how does that make berto a better fighter?

Floyd will never fight the Champ in my sig. Floyd is genius in cherry picking opponents. http://www.postimg.com/14000/13152.jpg

I like him. I hope that pussy PBFjr has balls to fight him. He is a fraud elite right???:boxing: http://www.postimg.com/14000/13152.jpg the champ in your sig could beat him man........ im not bashing him, i just have eyes..... his god given talent makes him a b level fighter... but the second you put him agaisnt A or A+ he is exposed...... i mean he was dropped tonight even, gimme a break.

I like him. I hope that pussy PBFjr has balls to fight him. He is a fraud elite right???:boxing: http://www.postimg.com/14000/13152.jpg

Good points. I feel the same, I watched the Collazo fight and it was if he didnt know what to do for the first 5 rounds then he did dig deep but he struggled alot with Collazo and I still think there should be a rematch. Berto is a good fighter but he gets smoked by the elite yeah me too, and i think you hit the nail on the head when you said he DIDNT KNOW what to do.... a lot of guys like floyd have it drilled into them from the time they can walk, others have instinct in the ring like a bhop. Berto has neither. He is like a rolls royce being driven by an eight year old in the ring.