I'm hearing a lot of people say this. I watched the fight live and thought it was very close. I wasn't sure who had won. Dirrell was very negative in the fight, running, spoiling, holding a lot and complaining to the referee. Froch wasn't able to get off like usual and was quite clumsy in his attacks. I didn't score it round by round but I knew it was close.
Then I watched the fight again. Then I watched it a third time with the sound off and here's what I saw.
Rd. 1- Dirrell throws quite a lot of long-range shots but barely any land. He's quicker than Froch. Froch lands the best shot of the round, a hard right hand to the body with 1.03 left on the clock. Soon after Dirrell turns southpaw Carl lands a good jab coming forward which backs Dirrell off. Then a right hand to the body again...then another seconds later. Dre doesn't do shit for the last 30 seconds of the round but MISS with a quick jab. 10-9 Froch
2- Very uneventful round, barely any shots landed. Froch stalking, Dirrell backing away and not doing mch. Couple of decent jabs by each. Froch lands a decent right-left to the body with 1.26 left. Dirrell lands a good left hook counter at 1.17 and moves off the ropes leaving Froch there. Good left to the body from Dre. Froch is pressing the action more, neither land very much; both are 80 % of the time out of range. 10-9 Dirrell (coulda gone either way)
3- Straight left from Dre misses then a left hook cuffs the side of Carl's head. Froch lands a right inside then a left hook as they break. Froch backs Dirrell along the ropes with jabs. Dirrell lands a good right to the body with 1.51 left. Pot shots soon after with a jab and straight backhand. Froch lands a right to the body and Dirrell scurries away...Dirrell lands a good left to the midsection at 1.01. Froch reponds with a str8 right to the stomach. With 45 secs on the clock Froch lands a good right hand that SNAPS Dirrell's head back (he actually fell into the ropes and if not for the ropes would most likely have gone down; this could have been a KD)...soon after 2 decent straight lefts to the body from AD. Dirrell very negative at the end of the round - basically running without countering. 10-9 Froch
4- Not much in the first minute. Good left hook/right hand combo from Dirrell with 1.48 left. Throws a 3 or 4 punch combo soon after but only lands the right hand to the chest. Froch is still advancing. Right hand to the body by CF at 1.08 left. Good right hook to the body by Froch at .45, Dirrell slides along the ropes. Both miss punches. With about 15 secs left Froch traps Dirrell in the corner. Lands a glancing right hand and misses with a left hook; Dirrell leans down and holds. It was a very close round (Al Bernstein said these exact words). 10-10
5- Dirrell being a little more positive, lands a great str8 right at 2.34 left. AD lands a good right to the body with 2 mins left. Str8 left to the body by AD at 1.41. They exchange jabs. Froch lands a good right hook with .33 left. 10-9 Dirrell
6- Uneventful round. Froch traps Dirrell in the corner and AD goes down- protests to the ref who says no KD. Moments later as Froch throws a couple of power shots (misses) Dirrell holds Froch around the middle and goes down on his knees. Complains again to the ref (about what who knows, he was the one who grabbed Carl and went down on his knees). Froch misses a big left hook, Dirrell holds again. Froch lands a strong right hand with 1.41 in the clock. then a left hook. AD runs without throwing anything back. Froch lands a nice right hand when AD's in the corner. then he clings to Froch like a koala (ref shoulda taken a point cos AD was clearly hurt and clearly spoiling by holding so Froch couldn't unload further). Froch then complains to the ref AND his corner because Froch hit him when he was holding; but he hit Froch first, at 1.28 and Froch simply retaliated. Dirrell keeps running, landing occasional jabs. Dirrell holds and bulldozes Carl into the ropes hanging onto him. Dirrell ONCE AGAIN goes to his knees at .13, he complains to his corner (once again I dont know why, Froch didn't do shit, Dirrell just went down as Froch lined up a right hand). 10-9 Froch
6 rounds down I had Froch winning 3-2 with 1 even.
7- Dirrell complaining repeatedly again. Good left from AD. Froch unloads towards the end of the round as Dirrell moans. 10-9 Froch.
I got stuff to do but of the last 5 I gave Dirrell 3 rounds so that's 6-5-1 even for Froch, point is it was close.
People go on about how Froch hit air all night but im sorry Dirrel was not much better either.. he didn't land much, maybe a lil more but what with all the running/hugging and being in the mans backyard he was never winning like that. Americans are used to getting the home advantage but it's nice for a change when its the other way around.
complete and utter rubbish! have you seen the robbery of the year 2009 video? if not, have a look and you can see for yourself.
He showed the urgency and will to win in addition to landing more than ppl are trying to make it seem like he did.
Even if he wasn't landing at a very good rate it he was landing hard enough to actually do some damage because Dirrell did have his nose bloodied.
So yes out of the 2 men I would say Froch deserved to go home with his title, though it was a shit fight and I only had Froch up by 1 point.
fair enough, but not for me. froch only got the decision because it was in robin hood country. i dont know how people could score rounds for a fighter if he doesnt even land! and lets be honest, did froch even land 50 punches the whole fight?
Are you serious? These are professional judges you're talking to here. They have scored 100s of title fights, they know every criteria of scoring fights.
/Sarcasm.
Scoring on negativity, LOL. That's like a last resort type of thing, when the person you want to win, is losing on every realistic(not made up bullshit scoring) criteria to score a fight, you go to your last resort and make some shit up to make your guy look like he won in at least one category.
Lol he won because he "pressed the fight".
This is what makes my head hurt. Maybe it's cause these retards are Calzaghe fans but ACTIVITY AND AGRESSION ARE NOT SCORING CRITERIA.
Dirrell was robbed. All these people score for negativity, and that's not how you score a fight.
In fact it proves that you are judging the fight with bias because "fighting negative" is not a basis for scoring a round.
Are you serious? These are professional judges you're talking to here. They have scored 100s of title fights, they know every criteria of scoring fights.
/Sarcasm.
Scoring on negativity, LOL. That's like a last resort type of thing, when the person you want to win, is losing on every realistic(not made up bullshit scoring) criteria to score a fight, you go to your last resort and make some shit up to make your guy look like he won in at least one category.
Lol he won because he "pressed the fight".
Does this really need to be discussed anymore? The only one's who continue to drag this up are the insecure Carl froch fanboys who know that their hero lost decisively but refuse to accept it.
british boxing is a complete and utter joke and you can bet every single person who supports Carl froch is unemployed and living on a council estate.
Quoted for truth.
bro give up, americans will always make excuses because they cant admit their man was beaten. dirrell deserved to be Knocked out for his coward of a performance. he 100 percent did not deserve to win. thank god justice was done
the fker now faked to get out of being knocked out by abraham. cant wait till he fights someone like abraham again, the bitch will get destroyed
lmao@making it a country thing again. Insecure bitch.
Do you even know the scoring rules in professional boxing?
I'm British and a fan of Froch and but I scored it clearly to Dirrell purely on the basis that he landed more and took less punches in return.I'm glad they gave it to Froch however, what we saw from Dirrell isn't what boxing is about nor should it be encouraged. The running was one thing but what bothered me more was when Froch did catch him Dirrell that night would go to ground or hang on to him so he could run away again thus avoiding having to actually fight at all, farcical and not at all like his performance v AA.
It may not have been a victory for Dirrell but an objective fight fan recognises it's a victory for the sport.
Im sorry guys but the way Dirrell fought is not the way you win a world title, it was a pathetic and whimpy performance and no one deserves to be a world champion that way.
That's not how you score a fight.
Again this is the problem. Every excuse is Dirrell fought negative, not Froch deserved to win. Froch was horrible that night. Dirrell's style can sometimes be a joke (Stevens fight) but if you can't touch the guy then how is it his problem? In terms of scoring I mean.
Either you win or you do not there is not any rule that states the champion gets extra rounds if the other guy does not do something extra. Rounds are judged round by round judging based on who is more effective that round. If you do not like a style and you to score a fight against someone based on that your scoring should not be considered.
Wether or not you like how a guy is fighting really has no basis on who the more effective fighter is, and out of all the decision that got ripped on as bad last year this was the worst (it was a bad decision for sure but depending on how you judge a fight to be a robbery it may or may not be depending on how low you set the bar)..
Ain't no myth about it Dirrell is the superior fighter and if they fought again Dirrell would be heavily favored and would most likely eviscerate Froch.
Dirrell was robbed. All these people score for negativity, and that's not how you score a fight.
In fact it proves that you are judging the fight with bias because "fighting negative" is not a basis for scoring a round.
PPL need to just except that even if you land more ineffective slaps than your opponent in a round, all of the running, holding, and intentional falling to the floor can influence scoring and lose you a round that you could have won should you have taken a step forward just once.
Dirrell lost himself the fight and in no way deserved to win a world title.QUOTE]
look at it the other way, did froch deserve to keep hold of his title for landing next to nothing the whole fight whilst rabbit punching and getting his neck snapped back quite frequently?
no, if dirrell didnt deserve to win the world title then surely froch must keep it. thats what happened
Oh please are you gonna tell me Dirrel landed loads of punches and way more then Froch then? cause if you do you clearly did not watch the fight. He may have landed more (slightly) but that's not all judges judge a fight by.. aggression/who is pressing the fight and other stuff is taken into account. If Froch had stayed in his corner 0 punches would have been thrown or landed all night that's how gay Dirrel fought.
Froch did nothing, at all. I have yet to see any one that agrees that Froch won, say anything else other than Dirrell's performance. You guys have no argument at all, all you have is "Look what Dirrell did" wtf did Froch do? get his face tagged up that's what. Dirrell went matrix on Froch every time he was caught in the corner. His counter punching was killing Froch as well.
Just look at Froch's face when he was announced the winner. The face of a guilty man, who knows he is guilty.
he clearly wasnt robbed, u have to beat the champion clearly to take his title and dirrell didnt do that. if he had 8-9 rounds in the bag u could say he was robbed, but he didnt. the fight was very close and couldve gon eighter way as is proved by all the diffrent opinions on who won, in a situation like that its never wrong to go with the champion.
dirrell robbed himself, he was clearly the better fighter but wasnt mentally prepared for the big stage. but he redeemed himself in his very next fight, a much harder fight. hes back in the tourney and if his punch resistance wasnt damaged by the KO he will be a great fighter one day.
if he fights froch again dirrell will knock him out, first time around he threw away the fight though.