this is the easiest fight ever to pick pavlik doesnt have the workrate that paul williams has and sergio isnt gonna stand in front of kelly like almost all ohave done except for hopkins
it all depends on how Sergio handles Pavlik's power
let's face it, technically, Martinez is superior...he has better footwork and presents a multitude of angles...he has even shown the ability to adjust on the fly, as evidenced in the Williams fight HOWEVER
he also has a tendency to abandon his strengths and he brawls in spots...IF he does that and if he can't take Pavlik's power, it could be lights out
that's legitimate MW power coming at him
Done and Done...the above post says it all
Jab, right hand fight over.
Pavlik stops him.
That's hilarious you think that. Both Paul and Sergio are far superior to Pavlik. Pavlik is a robot and very overrated. Sergio will beat him EASILY.
this is the easiest fight ever to pick pavlik doesnt have the workrate that paul williams has and sergio isnt gonna stand in front of kelly like almost all ohave done except for hopkins
Pavlik > Margarito
Guess what Pavlik is?
A bigger, much stronger version of Margarito.............who owned Martinez.
I'm afraid this thread fails miserably.
If you are so confident, lets make a bet on it. 8k on Pavlik to make it interesting?
What do u say?
have you seen what Martinez looked like back then, he looked like he was 12 years old. He's matured and become a full grown junior middleweight. That being said Sergio's going to have to fight a brilliant fight in order to win. But he could present Pavlik with an array of problems first he's a southpaw second he has great foot movement and unless Pavlik took Hopkins advice he could be in for a rough night. Pavlik has no rhythm
Not everyone is bernard hopkins. Martinez has that slicksters style but gets hit alot for someone with that style much like zab judah. I notice he takes rounds off too, meaning he has stamina problems. Against a aggresive puncher like pavlik that death. I can't imagine him staying vertical when pavlik touches that chin on more than one ocassion.
I dunno.
I like Martinez, but I dont think he will take this easy. Ya he's a better technician, but he's still there to get hit.
With Pavlik, you cant be hit...because he can hurt you.
I got Pavlik by a late round stoppage. Should be awesome fight though!! :)
Agree completely. Just cos Bernard Hopkins can do it, doesn't mean Sergio Martinez can. I think Martinez will start better but as he slows down, Pavlik will start getting the better of it from round 4 or 5 onwards.
rav, what do you thyink about pav/williams? i think pavlik destroys williams easily
I think Pav beats him too. Williams leaves himself open because he doesn't use his reach to his advantage, he lunges in with his head out in the open. Look how Pavlik throws, straight up, guard up, has a stiff jab that does damage (because he uses his reach) and he's simply got more power at that weight. I think it'll be a fun fight to watch, but I truly see Pavlik possibly stopping Williams late. Williams has heart, but Pavlik does as well and he's also a finisher.
I hope it happens.
rav, what do you thyink about pav/williams? i think pavlik destroys williams easily
I know you asked this question for Rav, but I have to say that Williams is overrated on this forum to the highest degree. Pavlik would run right through Williams cause the dude has no defense and I know that Pavlik could take anything that Williams would try to dish out. I'm not even the biggest Pavlik fan but I call like I see it.
Did any of you even watch the Martinez vs Williams fight? Martinez keeps his hands down all the time and does tend to move around, but he's not an all defense fighter, he likes to trade. Williams was getting hit because unlike Pavlik, Williams doesn't use his reach to his advantage. Pavlik knows how to stay in front of you and ware you down. Also taking into consideration that Kelly is a full fledged Middleweight, those punches he's going to be landing are going to be much harder than what Martinez felt from Williams.
I see Martinez having his moments, but Pavlik trapping him and landing bombs throughout the fight until it's stopped.
this is the easiest fight ever to pick pavlik doesnt have the workrate that paul williams has and sergio isnt gonna stand in front of kelly like almost all ohave done except for hopkins
Martinez leaves his hands down too much and he's not going to be able to slip all those straight punches from Pavlik. Add to that, Pavlik is naturally bigger and has a mean right hand and he has a decent jab.
I dunno.
I like Martinez, but I dont think he will take this easy. Ya he's a better technician, but he's still there to get hit.
With Pavlik, you cant be hit...because he can hurt you.
I got Pavlik by a late round stoppage. Should be awesome fight though!! :)
this is the easiest fight ever to pick pavlik doesnt have the workrate that paul williams has and sergio isnt gonna stand in front of kelly like almost all ohave done except for hopkins
i dont know...since the hopkins loss kelly might have wisen up by now...but then again i could be wrong..
Sergio is by far the superior fighter. IMO if he fights just like he did vs v P.Will then Pavlik is in for a long night. Sergio is going to make one dimentional Pavlik look silly.
yeah knock out people who stand right in front of him who has he beaten at the top of the game that is slick
He has not beaten a guy like Sergio, but I think he can. Who has Sergio knocked out or beaten at the top of the game? He almost beat Williams and Cintron, I thought he edged them out but he left it to close. Pavlik could not hit Bhop much, but no one does. Sergio gets hit that's his problem in the Pavlik fight.
Pavlik knocks out people with left hooks body punching and uppercuts also. His Jab and cross are good though. If you don't believe he has more then a one two watch this video. Two knock outs with body punching and one with a left hook.
yeah knock out people who stand right in front of him who has he beaten at the top of the game that is slick
all kelly has is the 1,2 come on guys he has to be set to throw punches williams throws pounches all over the place and from different angles hes a much more difficult fighter to fight than kelly
I honestly think Martinez is gonna beat Pavlik senseless, my friend is a huge Pavlik fan and even he is worried that after being robbed martinez will be looking for a clear victory and may pick Pavlik apart brutally. Also i think martinez can move well enough to get rest and then get back on the attack and boxing him down.
all kelly has is the 1,2 come on guys he has to be set to throw punches williams throws pounches all over the place and from different angles hes a much more difficult fighter to fight than kelly
Pavlik knocks out people with left hooks body punching and uppercuts also. His Jab and cross are good though. If you don't believe he has more then a one two watch this video. Two knock outs with body punching and one with a left hook.