Haye is not ready for 'K' Bros yet..

not much holes need to be filled when you're going up against bums like the klitschkos. stiff robots whose success is thanks to the fact that they are part of a dead division. haye should take care of them easily. You are further solidifying your position as the worst poster on this forum. I truly believe you have only watched your idol Manny Pacquiao fight and nobody else. Either that or you are just extremely stupid. I personally believe it's a mixture of both, Your Highness King Pactard. Haye struggled against an old John Ruiz. I watched that fight and I was not at all impressed with David Hayes performance. His defense was terribly lacking, his shots were wild and missing, and he seemed off balance. A better fighter would have put him on his ass. The Klit's are very good technical fighters who have mastered the art of using their god given attributes to their advantage and I believe both Klitschko's would KO David Haye and I don't see how anybody could make a clear case for a Haye victory that could even be debatable.

As a proud Brit who happens to love the Hayemaker and his style of boxing, even I must admit that David is in need of more fights in the heavyweight division before he takes on either of the Klitschko men; the two strongest, most prolific heavyweight world champions of the 21st century. His defeat of America's best hope Ruiz was emphatic, but the Klitschkos are in a different league to him.

is it just me or was haye eatin jabbs all night long from Riuz and wladdy is one of the best jabbers around! I dont want to wait, but a fight between the Chageav-Meehan winner is not to bad at all before a Klit.

Haye still has alot of holes to fill yet before stepping up to these monsters. I feel he should fight Adamek or Arreola to see how he fairs against them. In my opinion he needs 2 more fights before fighting the K.bros... I very much agree. Haye's a former cruiserweight, so I don't know why people want him to fight the Klits so soon. The more HW fights Haye gets, the better. I don't think he'll get to much out of fighting small HWs, so he needs to fight the big dudes like Meehan, Valuez, or Arreola to get ready for the Klits.

Haye still has alot of holes to fill yet before stepping up to these monsters. I feel he should fight Adamek or Arreola to see how he fairs against them. In my opinion he needs 2 more fights before fighting the K.bros... Haye will never be good enough to beat the CLITshko brothers.!

Haye still has alot of holes to fill yet before stepping up to these monsters. I feel he should fight Adamek or Arreola to see how he fairs against them. In my opinion he needs 2 more fights before fighting the K.bros... Seems fair enough..

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not much holes need to be filled when you're going up against bums like the klitschkos. stiff robots whose success is thanks to the fact that they are part of a dead division. haye should take care of them easily. #1 retard of the planet earth speaks again.

Considering how pathologically tenative Wladimir is... the fact that he seems afraid, much of the time, to throw the right hand EVEN against negative, backpeddling fighters like E Chambers... I wouldn't count Haye out. Haye's aggressive, mentally strong, punches like a mule and is very athletic and quick. People act like this fight is a formality for Wladimir... a guy who's twice been KO'd by less-than-stellar opponents. It's not. It's a legitimate heavyweight fight for 3 heavyweight belts. 4 if you count the IBO. Hope it happens Actually 4 belts...if you count the WBA. I don't think that Haye's poor defence could be because of a lack of sparring before the fight. Think about it. Haye, for whatever it's worth, is the WBA champion. He got to that position by being an unbeaten cruiserweight champ, (although he never defended) and has been boxing, and learning for probably 15 years or so. So....how could a measly month with no sparring ruin his defence, an attribute he should have ingrained in his style. Again, for what it's worth, it seems that Povetkin does NOT want to fight Klitschko-just now anyway- therefore the logical fight for Haye is with a Klitschko. However, Haye already had the opportunity to fight BOTH Klitschko's, and reneged, at the last moment. SO....it seems that he also may not want to fight a Klitschko........or, MAYBE now that he's beaten Ruiz, his manic-depressive confidence urges him to "taunt the tigers". At least until commonsense and reality set in........ I think that in any negotiations with Haye, he'll be acting as if HE is the one with the 3 titles..........

Considering how pathologically tenative Wladimir is... the fact that he seems afraid, much of the time, to throw the right hand EVEN against negative, backpeddling fighters like E Chambers... I wouldn't count Haye out. Haye's aggressive, mentally strong, punches like a mule and is very athletic and quick. People act like this fight is a formality for Wladimir... a guy who's twice been KO'd by less-than-stellar opponents. It's not. It's a legitimate heavyweight fight for 3 heavyweight belts. 4 if you count the IBO. Hope it happens

#1Assasin, I have discussed in other threads with you and you're reasonable, see what I was saying about the idiots who never give credit to the Klitschkos? Ch@mpBox@PR is one of them, look at the quotes I showed, he picked both Arreola and Gomez to beat Vitali and after he beats them he keeps talking shit.

Check out my sig. Old shot Ruiz's slow weak jabs were hurting the glass chinned Haye and making him to the Judah chicken dance. The ropes saved Haye from getting knocked down by Ruiz's slow telegraphed right hands. Haye has tons of flaws and weaknesses. His defense sucks, he's lazy, sluggish, has terrible stamina, very low workrate, bad balance, glass chin, leaves himself wide open after he throws his wild looping amatuerish punches, etc. Either Klitschko easily destroys Haye. haye was never hurt against ruiz neighter did the ropes keep him from going down, stop making up lies just bcuz your racist punk ass dont like black ppl. defense - hayes defense is in general good, he and his trainer both said they were dissapointed he got hit that much after the fight and blamed it on lack of sparring. being an amateur boxer myself i can tell u e-warriors thats a legit excuse. he has good defense, its just that sometimes he is overaggressive. last fight he just wasnt himself. lazy - lol, thats just not true at all, another steelhammer biased lie. haye togheter with the K bros and adamek are the hardest working HWs in the world by far. sluggish - he does have tendencies to throw wide shots, but due to his speed i still wouldnt call him sluggish. he wont be able to get away with that against a K bro though. bad balance - at times yes, especially against ruiz where he didnt look sharp at all. at his best hes got good balance though. stamina - true workrate - he adapts his workrate to his oponent, strategy. he can pick it up if he needs to. glass chin - no, he isnt marvin hagler but hes not glass chinned eighter. average chin, like wlad. dont feel like answering the rest of your BS at the moment.. i'm elie seckbach... :) ... reporting! :wave: next time, please watch how you talk to me. :wave: u just suck.

Haye still has alot of holes to fill yet before stepping up to these monsters. I feel he should fight Adamek or Arreola to see how he fairs against them. In my opinion he needs 2 more fights before fighting the K.bros... haye's defense and stamina sux. he would get beat up by the K-sisters

Men, Haye aint getting any better, so he might just get it now. I think He KOs Wlad and have a chance of outboxing Vitaly. He is much faster than them and more athletic. http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4889402&postcount=5 I said it, yeaterday, Frankestein is ducking Haye and Titty men Arreola. Klitschko is becoming another Forrest, the mother ****er is taking those belts hostage. I hope he ends up fighting some bum and he gets KTFo!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4967934&postcount=4 Pretty soon Vitaly and Wladimir Klitschko!!!!!!!!!! http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4939611&postcount=1 After watching some tapes of both, i think that Gomez can pull the up set if he, keeps his movement side to side, and makes Vitaly come to him, hecan seriously oubox Vitaly, who fights kind of robotic. This is simple if Gomez keeps his stamina, he keeps the fight in the center of the ring moving side to side and thrwos in bunches like he do, hell pull the upset, but Vitaly have that devastating right hand, that with one of them he can end the fight at any moment. Ill pick Gomez pulling the upset via SD 114-112!!!!!!!!!!! :rofl: :rofl: You're a retard and your predictions mean nothing.

Check out my sig. Old shot Ruiz's slow weak jabs were hurting the glass chinned Haye and making him to the Judah chicken dance. The ropes saved Haye from getting knocked down by Ruiz's slow telegraphed right hands. Haye has tons of flaws and weaknesses. His defense sucks, he's lazy, sluggish, has terrible stamina, very low workrate, bad balance, glass chin, leaves himself wide open after he throws his wild looping amatuerish punches, etc. Either Klitschko easily destroys Haye. Exactly. Haye is not ready for K.bros just yet. After watching the fight over Ruiz did get to him at times and exploited Haye on a few occasions but not really hurt. A couple more fights would be ideal before going ahead fighting the K.bros, not that i think he will win but these holes need to be tweaked before going anywhere K.bros.

Haye has flaws that can't be fixed no matter how long he puts off fighting one of the Klitsckho brothers.

not much holes need to be filled when you're going up against bums like the klitschkos. stiff robots whose success is thanks to the fact that they are part of a dead division. haye should take care of them easily. Haye had huge holes in his defense against Ruiz. Being ringside Haye look off balance and sloppy at times. The K bros will take advantage of that landing hard shots. Haye can get better with a couple more fights before fighting these guys. I mean Haye hasn't fought anyone of note in the division, Valuev is just to slow to do anything to Haye. Adamek would be a real test for Haye.

It just wont work, haye is too injury prone. The guy never comes into a fight 100 percent which is why he will retire after he fights the brothers. I think it will be an even fight with them, nobody knows for sure who will win but what we will know is haye will have better hand speed, and foot speed. he also has good power, that on its own with the right game plan can defeat the brothers.

agreed. hopefully for the sake of boxing adamek retires arreola and then he and haye can fight for the right to take on a klitschko. if not haye could fight tony thompson, that would be a pretty good fight. thompson more or less deserves another title shot and his size would present a good test for haye (valuev is big but he sucks).