Are you guys serious?

i guess i was right ha... WAR COTTTO !!!!!!!!

5 star thread. losing to a cheater and going 12 with potentially (with a win over floyd) one of the 2 greatest ever doesn't mean you're shot. you're shot if you lose to Yuri in June, though.

cotto def. lost something in those fights. the beatings he took definitely have their toll and u can tell, he just seems like a lot of his will was drained after that margarito fight. i like cotto, i do but its very difficult to argue hes in his prime anymore.

didnt you know if you lose..on boxingscene you're either shot or overated....you are not allowed to lose..but if you're undefeated you havent fought anyone...lol I wish more Floyd fans could be like you bro..

The problem for Miguel is if he does anything but win big against Foreman he'll still have an uphill battle to gain respect at jr. middleweight. I mean, if Cotto eeks by with a decision win- say by a round or two- people are going to probably still think he's washed up. I mean, if Cotto gets past Foreman, but not by much, do you really still want to see him fight the winner of Williams-Cintron? Or would you rather he fight some lower level 154 lb. fighters first?

Im seeing threads "is cotto past his best?" "should cotto retire?" all this BS. The dude fought arguably the best fighter of are era and put up a hellova fight against him will doing it. Just cause pacuiao washed de la hoya and hatton and they retired, doesnt mean a better, young cotto should. We'll see June 6th who should be retiring. Does any1 else agree with me? :boxing: 100% agree with you bro...

oops i misread TSs comment. i thought he said how pac beat a "washed out" DLH and hatton. :pat: Ok back to Cotto now. I see where you could have read it wrong now.

He is no bum at all, but the Miguel Cotto of the Judah and Mosley fights is gone forever. You don't take the beatings Cotto did against Margarito and Pacquiao without losing something forever. Still capable of giving plenty of fighters hell, but he needs a long break to get his body and mind right.

He is an exciting fighter that brings action. If he doesn't improve his defense his days as a top fighters are severly numbered. I still will pay to see him and he is not washed up or finished. On June 5 we will find out where he really is

Im seeing threads "is cotto past his best?" "should cotto retire?" all this BS. The dude fought arguably the best fighter of are era and put up a hellova fight against him will doing it. Just cause pacuiao washed de la hoya and hatton and they retired, doesnt mean a better, young cotto should. We'll see June 6th who should be retiring. Does any1 else agree with me? :boxing: Yeah, the Foreman fight will make or break the rest of his career. The reason so many people wonder if Miguel is done isn't just because he's lost twice now, but those losses were the type that can break you mentally and physically. Cotto decided to bang with Margarito, put in all his heart and courage, and got beat down. He went with a warrior mentality and it backfired. He took a severe pummeling those last few rounds. Against Pacquiao, people wondered if Miguel could rebound mentally from what Margarito did to him. Again, he put it all in - traded and fought hard- and got beat up. Again. It can kill your career.

im with you. even hatton aint done yet. hes just giving in to the public pressure that hes done. pac also proved himself as the best fighter against cotto. as for DLH fight, that was his own request to fight at 147 to see if he still got it. cant blame pac for taking that. he thought he can bully a LW champion coming up and matching him to WW. he failed miserably. Okay we're talking about cotto now...wrong thread lol

He was broken down by Margarito in a fight that can affect you mentally and physically for the rest of a career, he looked terrible in a "win" over Clottey, then he was destroyed by Manny Pacquiao. Doesn't take a boxing expert to know when your career isn't what it used to be. My man Styles make fights if you are such an expert you should know that. Cotto still pull the trigger when he has the opportunity to let his hands go he does. As long as he is not gun shy he is not shot. he has lost and I feel he needs 2 fights like the Foreman fight to regain his confidence and then he should be ready for another big fight. With the new trainer in his corner he should be able to improve on a few things. He can still be a big name at 154 and do what he needs to do there. You don;t go 12 round swith Clottey and then 11 rounds with Manny because you are shot.....Lefty

I think if he loses in June, he might wanna consider hanging up the gloves. But with Steward in his corner, It seems like he's taking a serious approach at getting back to the top. I just don't know how much more of a beating he can take, though I'm not expecting him to take one against Foreman.

didnt you know if you lose..on boxingscene you're either shot or overated....you are not allowed to lose..but if you're undefeated you havent fought anyone...lol Well this is true.

Without an improved D, Cotto should retire, or he will be a shell of his former self when his career is over. I think he's a very entetaining and skilled fighter who could continue to give us war after war, but the damage he takes each time out is just too much.

he's obviously lost something. he's not "the same" cotto from the past.... but i don't think he should retire, unless he wants to.

didnt you know if you lose..on boxingscene you're either shot or overated....you are not allowed to lose..but if you're undefeated you havent fought anyone...lol lol Yeah its bad. The reason why I say Cotto might be better off making his way into retirement is that he's taken a lot of damage over his past few fights and hasn't reacted very well to them like he has in the past and he's already reached and passed the peak of his career professionally. I think he can still fight and compete with the elite but there is not much left for him to do in this sport that he's capable of in my opinion.