Who here HONESTLY thought Pacquiao was on roids BEFORE the mayweathers said anything?

Next thing you know,she is going to talk about Joe Calzaghe! lol why dont you answer to my reply to you instead of talking to him? :lol1: i said ill name fighters who moved up in weight, i named them. now what?

Yea and hes not the only fighter!! :dunce:

Sad. LOL @ you comparing Nonito Donaire moving up in weight to Manny Pacquiao. And Paul Williams began fighting at MIDDLEWEIGHT, genius. And Mosley's workrate at 154 was DRASTICALLY lower than his workrate at lightweight. Are we done? Next thing you know,she is going to talk about Joe Calzaghe! lol

Yea, finally, but only after a catastrophic event. Lets not forget that just months prior, Floyd was giving every excuse in the book to not fight Shane. He does steroids, he has 5 losses, hes not a draw. After 5 years in the division, its about time. You can't sugar coat this shit with me to make it look like hes doing something thats never happened before. Hes supposed to be fighting these guys. Thats how much clowns like you are fooled. Hes got you thinking that hes doing you a favor because hes doing what hes supposed to do. At the end of the day,Floyd called Shane out quite a few times,yet Shane had "toothaches,vacation plans,etc"... was he "ducking Floyd???? There is also times when Cotto said he wasn't ready for Floyd,does that mean Cotto was ducking??? As for Floyd "doing me a favour"-I only want to see the best possible fights being made-Id this what Manny is doing???? Sorry,but fighting a broken version of Cotto, a Clottey,and now a possible Margarito fight is NOT doing any fans a favour....funny how you think it is... The 5 years Floyd was in the division he was retired for nearly 3 of them.BFD-at the end of the day,he is fighting Shane-a very strong and legitimate challenge (possibly a tougher match up than Manny),the credit he gets from me is something other people are not doing-fighting the best available fighters out there at the moment...no need to discredit him for this... The reason Floyd didn't want to fight Shane once he came out of retirement was to chase Pacquiao after he had his tune-up match against Marquez.If you can't see that-then I don't know what to tell you.I only know that Floyd isn't pussying out of ANY form of drug testing to get out of a fight-that's a fact...if someone asks for every advantage in the ring (glove size,ring size,penalties for a weight Floyd has never exceeded,etc) then it is only fair to compromise with one request that benefits BOTH fighters...it is not as much an evil request that Manny wants to lead you on to believe.He is turning this anthill into a mountain....and drawing suspicion and attention his way...

Sad. LOL @ you comparing Nonito Donaire moving up in weight to Manny Pacquiao. And Paul Williams began fighting at MIDDLEWEIGHT, genius. And Mosley's workrate at 154 was DRASTICALLY lower than his workrate at lightweight. Are we done? and didnt you say that htown made a thread about him suspecting pac taking roids even before the mayweathers accused him? wheres your proof? youre a fukin liar :lol1:

Sad. LOL @ you comparing Nonito Donaire moving up in weight to Manny Pacquiao. And Paul Williams began fighting at MIDDLEWEIGHT, genius. And Mosley's workrate at 154 was DRASTICALLY lower than his workrate at lightweight. Are we done? :rofl::rofl: why arent you accepting my answer? there were no exceptions when i said ill name fighter who moved up in weight right? :lol1: how about espinosa? you didnt react how he moved up in weight hmm.. you still havent answer my question, when williams fought at 147 then fought at 154, did he move up in weight or moved down in weight? and the other question that you left unanswered, with pacs stamina, dont you think he can throw as much as 1231 punches? why are you ducking most of my posts and questions? :lol1:

1. when williams fought at 147, then fought at 154, is he moving up in weight or moving down in weight?? answer the question 2. like i said, the numbers can never be the same, why dont you base his work rate on his other fights? not just oscar's 3. didnt i answer your question already? YOU ARE stupid. a neutral poster in this thread even noticed how STUPID you are right? or youre just so stupid that you fail to notice other posters observation? :lol1: let me throw other names, nonito donaire, luisitio espinosa both moved up in weight but maintained theyre work rate. now what? Sad. LOL @ you comparing Nonito Donaire moving up in weight to Manny Pacquiao. And Paul Williams began fighting at MIDDLEWEIGHT, genius. And Mosley's workrate at 154 was DRASTICALLY lower than his workrate at lightweight. Are we done?

Pacquiao steroids suspicion thread started july, 2008: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=194553&highlight=pacquiao+steroids May, 2006: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72951&highlight=pacquiao+steroids In March of '09, kev 183 said... i cant believe what i'm reading..how about 36yr old marquez knocking out juand diaz?..and how about Pacquiao coming up from lightweight to welterweight man handling DLH?..46 yr Holyfield outboxing Valuev? its not like Hopkins KO'd Pavlik he just whooped his ass so how can that be steroids?..Mosley? please! the dude is already going thru enuff to puut himself in another situation like that Interesting post from April. 2009 http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=266060&highlight=steroids As a rule, I don't believe fighters are scared of each other. Nice, finally some hard evidence, atleast a handful did suspect it! Thanks for that I also believe fighters aren't afraid of eachother...maybe against Tyson tho ? :P

Pac stopped ricky with a hell of a shot but, if i,m not mistaken hatton was pacs only knockout besides diaz at 140... Since then he,s just whoopin ass now with workrate...

Adolf hitler, once said something along the lines of; 'if you tell a lie long enough, loud enough and often enough the people will believe it' we all know how he influenced millions and the sh*t he brought with it... before the mayweathers said pacquiao was on ped's or whatever I didn't read any threads/posts/articles from anyone saying they thought pacquiao was using any illegal substances (please correct me if I'm wrong) we're all boxing fans and have eyes/ears just like mayweather, he's not some superhuman-doctor that can notice anything more than us, with regards to spotting another boxer that's juicing.. I'm guessing that mayweather (given his celebrity status) and the influence he has on people has done an Adolf Hitler on people and got people 'singing his song' now you guys tell me HONESTLY, did you believe/think Pacquiao was using roids or ped's or whatever BEFORE The mayweathers said anything I.e. BEFORE the cotto fight??? p.s. Being dishonest in this poll is punishable by death.... It wasn't what Mayweather said. It was Pacquiao's reaction and response to the entire situation.

is it really that impossible to carry your power & your workrate thru 7 divisions? i mean can you prove it scientifically that you can't do that without use of PEDs? im just curious coz some posters here thinks that Pacquiao is not human for doing that

it had never even occured to me until floyd brought it up. BUT pacman's incresing ko power as he moved through the weight divisions (which almost never happens), and his bizarre reasons for not wanting proper drug testing makes me think that there is a possibility that something is going on. and we all know that if he agrees to floyd's testing, that this whole issue will cease to be. so why not just do it?

I don't think Pacroid is on the juice because Mayweather said so. Interestingly enough Mayweathers team was told by an insider that Pac was on the juice. The reason why i think Pac is juicing is because he won't take random drugs tests it's that simple.

honestly flomos will vote yes and pactards will vote no.. making a poll on this issue will never gain any honest opinions.. u got a point actually lol **** every flomo and pactard , bunch of crying little pussies . I remember Andre the giant! He looks one mean mofo man!

**** every flomo and pactard , bunch of crying little pussies .

honestly flomos will vote yes and pactards will vote no.. making a poll on this issue will never gain any honest opinions..

I've never seen such stupidity in these forums. I mean let's assume Pac is taking ped shit or something, it can't possibly be like Popeye the sailor man taking spinach. That's how stupid it is. :rofl::rofl: thanks for your unbiased observation :cool2: :lol1:

Cintron, Berto, Mosley, Cotto, Paulie, Kellerman, Oscar, Schafer, Dibella, Shaw, Haymon and others all look at Pac suspicious. and yet another lie from a low quality poster known as burner show me a proof or reference wherein berto, mosley, and cotto expressed their suspicion that pac is on steroids :lol1:

I know HTownTexan posted a whole thread on the possibility of Pac using roids before Floyd Sr. really?? i suggest you post the link right now as a proof or else youre nothing but a lying piece of shit :lol1: even if there was, its htowntexan's suspicion, not yours :lol1:

LMAO- As if Mosely's workrate has increased as Manny's...maybe when he was on the cream and the clear! That's the past though,at present he is willing to prove he is clean.... :rofl::rofl: didnt you read what i posted? the RIGHT question is, whos fighter allowed pac to throw that many punches besides from clottey?? lets see if you can answer :lol1: