Bert Sugar’s old school frustration towards Floyd Mayweather Jr.
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Bert Sugar and Floyd Mayweather Jr. (AP Photo)
Moments after last Saturday’s lackluster rematch between Bernard Hopkins and Roy Jones, fans and media alike began exiting the Mandalay Bay Events Center in disbelief at what they had just witnessed. Sporting his trademark fedora with cigar in hand, infamous boxing historian Bert Sugar was no different and seemed to shake his head in dismay.
Born in Washington, D.C. on June 7th, 1936, Sugar’s passion for the sport is striking and he has been a ringside fixture at boxing’s biggest events for many decades. Sugar’s pedigree speaks for itself as he has written over eighty books, primarily on boxing, and was elected to the International Boxing Hall of Fame in January 2005. The Boston Globe also named Sugar 'one of the foremost historians alive'.
With Hopkins-Jones II now thankfully in the past the next big fight that the outspoken Sugar will have his eyes on in the May 1st clash between Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Shane Mosley at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, Nevada. When asked for his thoughts on the contest Sugar comes out of the gates instantly turning his attention to Floyd.
“I’ve known him since he was eight years old,” Sugar claims. “He was one of the most talented little kids I ever saw. My wife was in Grand Rapids and I used to go watch him in the gym.”
As Floyd began his professional ascent up boxing’s championship ladder, Sugar admits that Mayweather’s offensive abilities and counter-punching skills were second to none, even going as far as to call the fighter ‘brilliant’. Before anyone got to know about Mayweather's persona it was only his talents in the ring that we were able to recognize.
As a Jr. Lightweight champion Mayweather had the look of an innocent kid with abilities that were simply outstanding. His January 2001 victory over fearsome puncher Diego ‘Chico’ Corrales could easily be looked at as one of this decade’s finest performances due to the sheer dominance and grace in which Mayweather controlled and tamed his undefeated Sacramento rival.
Mayweather’s success continued as he ventured to 135 and 140 pounds but when he made the move to the welterweight division he seemed to start rubbing people the wrong way. Floyd soon found himself in the role of the villain due to a combination of his outspoken nature and simply not facing the fighters much of the public desperately wanted him to fight. Elaborating further, Sugar feels that much of it had to due with Floyd’s style inside of the ring.
“I don’t think he turned them off with his bravado,” Sugar says. “He just doesn’t finish the job. He has people hurt and he can’t finish them off. The only one he did was Ricky Hatton who was overmatched to begin with and was lighter and stuck his chin out a lot. And it took him a long time to get to him.”
Mayweather walked away from the sport after defeating Hatton in December of 2007 and his return to the ring was met with mixed reactions in September of last year. While Mayweather’s opponent on that night, Juan Manuel Marquez, is undeniably great he was also moving up drastically in weight. Floyd ended up weighing two pounds over the contracted weight of 144 pounds, an act which cost him $600,000, before dominating Marquez the following night over twelve-lopsided rounds.
While Mayweather was in complete control against his Mexico City foe the public simply wanted to see him in against a bigger threat. Those wishes seemed to be answered when Mayweather signed on to face the still-dangerous Mosley but Sugar gives a resounding answer when asked if Floyd has started to redeem his image by facing Shane.
“Only if he fights Pacquiao,” Sugar states boldly. “Right now I question whether he really wants too. He threw out bull**** proposals and said that he was the equivalent of Martin Luther King because he boldly dares. When did he become the government? When I was a kid the line was ‘Who died and made you king?’”
Sugar was then asked for his thoughts on Manny Pacquiao and his run of success in recent years. While Sugar has much praise for the WBO Welterweight champion he closes out by saying that the Filipino may already be looking in other directions. And if that is the case, Sugar can’t help but have some kind of deep frustration towards Mayweather.
“Pacquiao is brilliant but I don’t think he really cares if he fights Mayweather at all now. He probably will fight on without fighting Mayweather because he doesn’t’ care for Mayweather or to sign a contract anymore. Mayweather blew the biggest fighter of the year, of the decade, of the last 25 years. Floyd really pissed me off.”
With that Sugar placed his cigar in his mouth and headed for the bright halls of the Mandalay Bay. What was left behind was the image of old school boxing mind who has seen just about anything you can imagine in this business. It’s obvious from the tone in his voice that Sugar would love to see a Pacquiao-Mayweather showdown but his disappointment is a telling sign that it very well may never happen.
Flomos.. Burt Sugar = BS, biased, and senile...
but Teddy Atlas = The man, Not biased and Boxing truth...
irony...
What do you think about Sugars comments in the video above? :dunno:
Bert can do better than that!
Beat me to it.......Bert Sugar is a senile and pompous fool. He is irrelevant today........just another Floyd hater....he thoughT JMM had a shot....he was wrong....so instead of giving Floyd some props as he sauid he would he found a way to criticise......sound familiar????
Pretty sure Bert said PBF would never fight Shane.........all of a sudden he is and now the only way Floyd can redeem himself is by fighting Pac.
BS = BullShit.
Old man is confused.
It means that people have different opinions. Sugar's is no better than anybody else. And Ray Leonard at one time said Delahoya was a better fighter than Roy Jones jr. Do I agree? Is he right? Not in my opinion. It's no different from whatever Sugar says about Pacquaio or Mayweather. Either I agree with it or I don't. But his word is not bond because he's old. And no, I don't think he's in Manny's pockets.
are you not reading what Im saying? Bert gives his opinion, right or wrong.
Floyd fans dont agree with this, so they call him "bias". If Bert were to tell us it wasnt floyds fault, but mannys, I can gaurantee you wouldnt call him biased.
We've heard it before with sugar rayleonoard, lennox lewis, emmanuel steward, and anyone else who gives praise to Manny over floyd.
Now, what bias do they have? are they in his pockets? are they related to Manny? are they filipino? what form biasism do they have when it comes to Manny-Floyd. Whether they are right or wrong, they are accused of being biased since they gave they praise Manny.
what does that have to do with bert sugar being biased towards manny?
or sugar ray leonard, emmanuel steward, lennox lewis for that matter? are they in manny's pockets?
It means that people have different opinions. Sugar's is no better than anybody else. And Ray Leonard at one time said Delahoya was a better fighter than Roy Jones jr. Do I agree? Is he right? Not in my opinion. It's no different from whatever Sugar says about Pacquaio or Mayweather. Either I agree with it or I don't. But his word is not bond because he's old. And no, I don't think he's in Manny's pockets.
Bert Sugar thinks Jack Dempsey is the greatest heavyweight that ever lived. Does that mean he's right becuse he's older than me? Please.
what does that have to do with bert sugar being biased towards manny?
or sugar ray leonard, emmanuel steward, lennox lewis for that matter? are they in manny's pockets?
haha, floyd fans are funny as shit.
if anyone praises manny over floyd, its because their "biased"
what we have here is bert sugar, who's been covering boxing way before floyd and manny were born.
so how could he be biased towards manny? he's even said he's known floyd since he was a little boy.
Wouldnt he be biased towards floyd since he's known him longer?
or is he only biased because he blames floyd. That must be it, if someone doesnt approve of floyd, he's automatically labeled as "biased, racist, or has another hidden agenda"
So far floyd fans have said, lennox lewis doesnt know shit, emmanuel steward, sugar ray leonard, etc. All because they praise manny? "those biased mother****ers, they dont know shit about boxing, floyd is god! just look at this video from MoneyMayweather22 on youtube, he's the truth!"
Bert Sugar thinks Jack Dempsey is the greatest heavyweight that ever lived. Does that mean he's right becuse he's older than me? Please.
haha, floyd fans are funny as shit.
if anyone praises manny over floyd, its because their "biased"
what we have here is bert sugar, who's been covering boxing way before floyd and manny were born.
so how could he be biased towards manny? he's even said he's known floyd since he was a little boy.
Wouldnt he be biased towards floyd since he's known him longer?
or is he only biased because he blames floyd. That must be it, if someone doesnt approve of floyd, he's automatically labeled as "biased, racist, or has another hidden agenda"
So far floyd fans have said, lennox lewis doesnt know shit, emmanuel steward, sugar ray leonard, etc. All because they praise manny?
"those biased mother****ers, they dont know shit about boxing, floyd is god! just look at this video from MoneyMayweather22 on youtube, he's the truth!"
What happened? Was that boxing related?
I believe so. If memory serves me correctly, it involved Joe DeGuardia double dipping in the pot. I may be confusing/combining two things but I think so.
Wallace also opened the lid on the scandal involving the NY DA and was unceremoniously dumped from the Post for doing so.What happened? Was that boxing related?
So Pac is the only guy out there for Floyd to fight? What about Sergio Martinez for the 160 lb title if he beats Pavlik? What about Paul Williams? What about Devon Alexander?
When did Mayweather say he was moving to 160?
Why don't you ever address the fact that you said Floyd would NEVER EVER fight SSM. And if he did you would give him all the credit and stop hating. Your words not mine.
What? I'm happy that floyd was forced to fight Mosley. Mosley deserves this payday and this fight was a long time coming.
20k that floyd doesn't knockdown Mosley!!!!
No, but most of their writers have a Manny bias: Michael Marley, Dennis "dSource" Guillermo, Rick Rockwell, Lorne Scoggins, Marv Dumon, Scott Heritage. The only writer from the Examiner who's objective is Vivek Wallace. Wallace is the only one that said if Manny was clean then why doesn't he take a blood test. Keep in mind that Wallace is a Pacquiao fan but he's objective.
Wallace also opened the lid on the scandal involving the NY DA and was unceremoniously dumped from the Post for doing so.
Floyd is not the reason that fight didn't happen. Does Pacquiao own examiner?No, but most of their writers have a Manny bias: Michael Marley, Dennis "dSource" Guillermo, Rick Rockwell, Lorne Scoggins, Marv Dumon, Scott Heritage. The only writer from the Examiner who's objective is Vivek Wallace. Wallace is the only one that said if Manny was clean then why doesn't he take a blood test. Keep in mind that Wallace is a Pacquiao fan but he's objective.
So Pac is the only guy out there for Floyd to fight? What about Sergio Martinez for the 160 lb title if he beats Pavlik? What about Paul Williams? What about Devon Alexander?