Look at it like this, Bernard Hopkins is 45 years old,
Has never fought at Heavyweight before, Fighting a young quick strong boxer who has not lost in a number of years, With an extremely high Knockout Ratio coming off a great stoppage of Iron chinned John Ruiz.
Bhop is 6"1 where as the hayemaker is 6"3, not really a big difference.
I think if Bhop wants a world title at Heavyweight a fight with Haye is his best option,
Unlike the likes of Holyfield for example or any other heavyweights ever in the sport he doesn't throw his weight around,
Haye doesn't spend them throwing you around or leaning on you etc etc.
The weight issue wouldn't be as big an issue in this fight as it would be with the likes of the klitschko brothers......
Who has the better chin? Its obvious Hopkins has the better chin,
Haye has been put down by club fighters outside the heavyweight division and is well known to have a glass chin....
But I look at it this way,
David Haye is a legitimate heavyweight champion but he doesn't like fighting on the inside, which Hopkins is the master at doing,
When Bernard gets inside what will Haye do?
Cause I don't know? Haye has never really had to deal with anything like that.....
I think Bernard looked terrible lastnight against Roy Jones jr,
And this stage in Roys career he doesn't match David Hayes handspeed, doesn't match Hayes size or Power but I look at it like this,
Of the two guys Bhop is the technician and I think he can get inside on anybody......
Bhop won't stand there either and let David Haye land his overhand right either,
What you guys think?
Who would take it?
Hopkins took too many flush uppercuts for his age against Roy... and haye will rabbit punch bhop to death, not saying thats how he'd beat him but its a great possibility
But BHop doesnt have that heavy shot relative to a HW.
If Hopkins unloaded his counter cross on Haye while Haye was coming in with his bullshit, it would be a KO.
You can't fix a bad chin mate
true , but when hopkins feels that 40+ pounds of extra power haye carries even with his good chin he is going to crumble .
a 45 year old bloated light heavyweight vs a growing , fast heavyweight power puncher is a combination for a mismatch
even in the jones fight hopkins was over acting after the jones fouls to catch a breather , no way he could keep up with the fresher haye
Hopkins is a clever fighter with all the tricks in the book, and could probably make Haye miss alot, i think that Haye would KO him though once he starts to connect. Probably an early KO.
those who arent band wagoners, rabid brit fans, or complete idiots will see that hopkins EASILY wins a UD over haye
his style is all wrong for haye
for the record, im a MUCH bigger fan of haye than i am hopkins. his style is much more exciting and i like his attitude better. but hopkins wrecks him
thats how I feel i hate hopkins but i think he could beat haye
those who arent band wagoners, rabid brit fans, or complete idiots will see that hopkins EASILY wins a UD over haye
his style is all wrong for haye
for the record, im a MUCH bigger fan of haye than i am hopkins. his style is much more exciting and i like his attitude better. but hopkins wrecks him
You can't fix a bad chin mate
Haha no you cannot. But you can better your defense, and head movement. And I believe Haye has done that. Not so much that he is a bloody defensive master mind. He still gets hit to some extent. You have seen that in his fight with Ruiz. You forget also that Wlad does not have a grand chin on himself too. But over the years he has done other things to stop punches from reaching his chin.
Haye was *stopped* outside of the heavyweight division. He was green when he suffered his first loss. He underestimated the guys chin and punched himself out. He has grown smarter since then though.
You can't fix a bad chin mate
I am a big BHop fan but this would be suicidal. He looked poor yesterday. Haye is too big and strong, fast fisted. Technically Bhop's countering style is a good match against Haye, but age has diminished BHop.
Haye by TKO.
Yes but Bernard has never been Ko'd either way,
Haye has been Ko'd outside Heavyweight and has awful chin, its a fact
Haye was *stopped* outside of the heavyweight division. He was green when he suffered his first loss. He underestimated the guys chin and punched himself out. He has grown smarter since then though.
Haye has not really fought any good opponents yet tho
you dont become a undisputed cruiser champ and heavyweight champ by not fighting any "good opponents".
I think bernard is biting off more than he can chew. Bernard has never felt heavyweight power. I think it was George Foreman that said all heavyweights hit hard.
Yes but Bernard has never been Ko'd either way,
Haye has been Ko'd outside Heavyweight and has awful chin, its a fact
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