Who is the worst boxer that you consider an all-time great?

no way man. I'm not gonna let mainstream thinking infect my own thinking. I scored the fight for Ali. Mainstream thinking what retard, no wonder you're an Amir Kahn fan. It's not mainstream thinking it's a fact.

Archie Moore fight was fixed, Moore was paid to lose the fight. Marciano's 0 has been more protected than Mayweather's. stupidest post ive ever read because u were aroudn in 1955 ?

im not even gona read this thread this site sucks ****ing cock ! the 1st 3 post were marciano frazier and tommy hearns??????? for worst atg? are u ****ing kidding me ? do you know what tommy mother ****ing hearns would have done to todays welterweights ??? tommy would have made pacman look like a ****ing pip squeek and crushged him in 4

Joe Frazier........:dunno: Please tell me you're kidding. If not...... Please NEVER post here again

Archie Moore fight was fixed, Moore was paid to lose the fight. Marciano's 0 has been more protected than Mayweather's. I don't think it was fixed. I don't see why Moore would take a beating if it was fixed. He got dropped 5 times. Why not just stay down after the third or fourth time? Plus he also dropped Marciano? Why risk winning if it is a fixed fight?

I only looked through the first 4 pages, but I was scared coming into this that Julio Cesar Chavez was going to take a lot of heat poor guy, lots of people tend to dislike him

cuevas vs margarito wow sweet pea 50 what a good question I think margarito would have had a good chance at beating cuevas with those upper cuts he throws and up until mosley had a solid chin as long as he stayed away from cuevas who always had a punchers chance and I agree with you mayweather over pac man no problem for floyd.:boxing:

Marciano did not just beat Louis. He also beat Charles, Walcott, and Moore. Moore and Charles are greater fighters than Jones agree? Marciano also beat couple other top 10 HWs. So for you do say that Forrest and Tarver have done must is just plain insane. I don't even think Burner would make such a comment. Archie Moore fight was fixed, Moore was paid to lose the fight. Marciano's 0 has been more protected than Mayweather's.

my boy pipino cuevas is an atg that just could not box just go foward and slug watch his videos and you will see one of the most feard punchers in history just could not box.:boxing: Pipino vs. Margarito. Who you got?

Silly? Thinking again, yes i agree. Tarver beat RJJ, an ATG most people will agree, when Roy still had something left. Marciano beat Louis when Louis had NOTHING left. He wasn't very good and if you actually see him in his fights you will be saying WTF multiple times. Again, why not break down his career for me? I will give credit where credit is due, no bigotry here. You need to show me he's an ATG. Marciano did not just beat Louis. He also beat Charles, Walcott, and Moore. Moore and Charles are greater fighters than Jones agree? Marciano also beat couple other top 10 HWs like Don Cockell and Roland LaRaltza(spelling?). So for you do say that Forrest and Tarver have done must is just plain insane. I don't even think Burner would make such a comment.

worst boxer that is atg my boy pipino cuevas is an atg that just could not box just go foward and slug watch his videos and you will see one of the most feard punchers in history just could not box.:boxing:

Nobody named Mike Tyson? dude fought in a very weak era and lost against all the great boxer he fought.

You just being silly now. Silly? Thinking again, yes i agree. Tarver beat RJJ, an ATG most people will agree, when Roy still had something left. Marciano beat Louis when Louis had NOTHING left. He wasn't very good and if you actually see him in his fights you will be saying WTF multiple times. Again, why not break down his career for me? I will give credit where credit is due, no bigotry here. You need to show me he's an ATG.

Thomas Hearns. Lost all the important fights. Sure he did. He only destroyed Duran, who many believe is a top 10 atg. But please, carry on.

Holyfield...... Really? Care to explain?

Holyfield......

And you know why that is? Because the people want it so. Skillwise I don't even rank him. He beat Louis when they dragged the retired out of shape 139 years old Louis into the ring so he could lose to Marciano. Marciano's record is not more impressive than the likes of Tarver, Forrest. Want to break down his record for analysis? Sorry I'm not buying the ATG because I'm old shit, you will need to show me how great were his accomplishments when compared to others. There's few spots in the ATG list and if you are in, you need to earn it. IF you prove me: He fought contenders, defended against live tough and young opponents and was not protected, if he did more than the rest on the same level, then I gladly take back that shit and consider him a legit ATG. Right now to me he isn't greater than Calzaghe to be honest. You just being silly now.

Never seen Zivic fight before But Ill look him up. I was just wondering because I also said Marciano and people gave me hell for it. His resume is not that bad, I think he does have a better resume then a Pryor or even a Calzaghe. Some people rate Joe as an ATG. But, I don't think his skills were really that good. But, he could KO any ATG fighter around his weight-class cuz he had that kind of power.

....did you just call Rocky Marciano a worst boxer at atg??.. rocky is the ONLY undefeated HW champ ever.. beat the following -Joe Louis -Ezzard Charles -Jersey Joe Walcott -Archie Moore -Don Cockell And you know why that is? Because the people want it so. Skillwise I don't even rank him. He beat Louis when they dragged the retired out of shape 139 years old Louis into the ring so he could lose to Marciano. Marciano's record is not more impressive than the likes of Tarver, Forrest. Want to break down his record for analysis? Sorry I'm not buying the ATG because I'm old shit, you will need to show me how great were his accomplishments when compared to others. There's few spots in the ATG list and if you are in, you need to earn it. IF you prove me: He fought contenders, defended against live tough and young opponents and was not protected, if he did more than the rest on the same level, then I gladly take back that shit and consider him a legit ATG. Right now to me he isn't greater than Calzaghe to be honest.

I don't think Marciano skilled really was all that. He was just a really rough, rugged, tough SOB with great power in both hands. He could be outboxed but could KO in any giving moment. Fritzie Zivic and Battling Nelson they were to dirty for me to consider them skilled. Just dirty fighters some people think is crafty but if they were fighting in this era they would of had their licensed revoked and would of never won a fight cuz they would of been DQ'd all the time. That is all I can think of right now. Never seen Zivic fight before But Ill look him up. I was just wondering because I also said Marciano and people gave me hell for it.