Following Tunney/Carnivore/Kid Lavigne/Whoever he wants to call himself today's anti-American thread, for the sake of balance it's only fair to do a similar poll on European fighters.
So, who is the most overrated European boxer of the past ten years?
People over here were not that impressed with Hatton and most reasonable minded boxing observers knew he had limitations. So how was he overrated?
You could argue he was over-rated even in the States on the basis that after he beat Tszyu he was The Ring's P4P #4, and leading up to the Pacquiao fight, he was The Ring's P4P #8. I think he was a solid divisional champion who had a great career, and that he is under-rated by a lot of people now, but I wouldn't argue with anyone who said he didn't merit such high P4P ratings.
In the UK he was certainly over-rated, at least by the media. The UK press gave him a very good chance of winning the Mayweather fight, FFS.
Following Tunney/Carnivore/Kid Lavigne/Whoever he wants to call himself today's anti-American thread, for the sake of balance it's only fair to do a similar poll on European fighters.
So, who is the most overrated European boxer of the past ten years?
Brian Nielson???
you only needed one name here and thats calzaghe
None of these guys are/were overrated at all imo, you missed Amir Khan though, he is.
Joe Calzaghe.
Hands down.
I don't think Calzaghe is as overrated as many think he is.
I know it's trendy to hate him, but he does have skills. His style is ugly with those "slaps", but effective. You don't move up in weight and beat Hopkins if you're overrated.
Ricky hatton by a country mile.
Critique him for his slapping style & his best opponents age, but Calzaghe at least was visually a highly skilled & athletic fighter. Hatton i just cannot fathom how the british were so endearing to such a limited fighter. I dont get how he was entertaining to watch with all his hugging & smothering of opponents.
I forgot about him, but he's really only come to prominence at the very end of the decade, plus he's far too young to make a fair judgement about him one way or the other, IMO. The way he's ducked Maidana is bad, though, but I still don't think someone who only really came to prominence in 2009 could reasonably be called the most over-rated European fighter of the entire decade.
What he does is effective. His resume is my problem.
wlad this decade.
sfarce ottke of the 20's and 90's
Mikkell Kessler by far is the most overated boxer !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mikkel Kessler
A prime Calzaghe was good. He even had punching power, since his hands weren't f**ked. Although he shouldn't have ducked Roy Jones Jr...A fight between the two in their primes would have been great. I think RJJ would have won though.
They didn't beat Hopkins.
It's only Calzaghe's haters who ever mention his win over RJJ. Calzaghe's fans know that was just a glamour fight to bow out on, and that it meant nothing.
This.
Allucard is a horrendously bad poster. Thanks for taking the 1 minute to strip his post of any conceivable logic.
As for overrated... I hate to say it but I'm going to say Kessler. Sure, the guy has had some good wins but both times he has stepped up he has lost wide decisions. Ward and Calzaghe and very, very good fighters but the way Kessler's fan carry on he is meant to be some Danish terminator who fires lasers from his traps.
Joe Calzaghe because some people give him allot of credit for no reason. It is almost unanimous Ottke was a continental fighter. Joe won vs a couple 40 year olds and is an ATG. The same people who think Joe is an ATG don't think neither Tarver or Johnson are ATG despite those being the ones who first beat RJJ when he was closer to his prime.
They didn't beat Hopkins. And they had no longevity as champions of any division and were both extremely inconsistent.
It's only Calzaghe's haters who ever mention his win over RJJ. Calzaghe's fans know that was just a glamour fight to bow out on, and that it meant nothing.
Joe Calzaghe because some people give him allot of credit for no reason. It is almost unanimous Ottke was a continental fighter. Joe won vs a couple 40 year olds and is an ATG. The same people who think Joe is an ATG don't think neither Tarver or Johnson are ATG despite those being the ones who first beat RJJ when he was closer to his prime.
For me it between Ottke and Hatton..
hatton & calzaghe are not overrated! Both had solid careers & I don't know how losing to pacman & pbf make you overrated but everyone is entitled to their opinions.I'd say ottke because of his homecooking decisions & his resume.it's tough to say anyone else whose had success is overrated.ottke I'd say is up there as overrated.
He was overrated badly before he fought Tsyzu, and after mauling the pony-tailed one to death the hype went into overdrive, People were talking about him in the same breath as Duran!!! WTF? How he would KO Mayweather bla bla bla, He avoid Witter (His main domestic rival) Like the plague before he fought Tsyzu.
But i give him credit because he doesnt have a lot of skills but he fought with heart and still went on to fight some of the best fights in Mayweather and Pacquiao so i would alway give him credit for that.Witter was fighting bums and club fighters before Hatton fought Tzsyu, there was literally nothing other than Witters Gob that made him a legitimate challenger, Unlike Smith, Magee, Rowland and Thraxton who where legit British title level fighters and had proved it.
in 2004 Witter fought Oscar Hall (who got KO'd in 2 by a 7-12 bum 6 months earlier), and two unknown eurobums.
Witter ducked all the top British LWW's but yapped endlessly about how Hatton was ducking him.
Carl Froch is overrated bum with no boxing skills he got lucky in the Jermain Taylor fight because his as was losing the fight until the 12rd fluke knockout
Its NO fluke, Taylor alway gas in the championship rounds, He has been doing so since the B-Hop fight, Even AA KO Taylor with a few seconds to go in the 12th round.
The problem was the way he lost, not the fact that he lost.
Personally I still think it's gone far too far the other way, now, though. He was lineal champion for nearly four years, beat most of the best contenders in his weight class, and beat two hall of famers who were still reasonably close to their primes, though past their primes. He was over-rated by the British press, but he's badly under-rated by a lot of people now, IMO.
He was overrated badly before he fought Tsyzu, and after mauling the pony-tailed one to death the hype went into overdrive, People were talking about him in the same breath as Duran!!! WTF? How he would KO Mayweather bla bla bla, He avoid Witter (His main domestic rival) Like the plague before he fought Tsyzu.
But i give him credit because he doesnt have a lot of skills but he fought with heart and still went on to fight some of the best fights in Mayweather and Pacquiao so i would alway give him credit for that.
Carl Froch is overrated bum with no boxing skills he got lucky in the Jermain Taylor fight because his as was losing the fight until the 12rd fluke knockout