What do you all think about Emmanuel training Cotto now?
I personally don't think Miguel is shot, I think he could still beat most top WW's and would give any guy in his weight range a great fight. He has never had a top trainer and I am excited to see what Steward can do with him.
I don't see what Cotto can learn from Manny or add to his arsenal from what Manny teaches.
Manny is a teacher of an upright, plant the back foot, use a stiff jab style that works for guys like Taylor Wlad and of course Hearns
Cotto is a front foot, torque with his his left (strong) side for leverage and using a jab for set up type of fighter
I have turned into quite the Cotto fan and I hope he can indeed bounce back but I dont see what Manny brings
Yeah, I agree, however I think he can help with some basic stuff, outlining a game plan to beat fighters. I don't expect Cotto's style to change, and it shouldn't. But maybe Steward can find a better way to implement his style on opponents. For example, I don't know if his corner mentioned this to Cotto but in the Margs fight he constantly let Marg get him a long the ropes or in the corner and Margs wasn't doing a great job cutting the ring off, Miguel was just doing an awful job of staying in the middle, and to me that is why he lost that fight. He moves around in the middle of the ring in that fight and he easily outboxes Antonio for 12 rounds. Instead he got pushed back to the ropes where Margs could really tee up on him. I think Steward could help with the little things, a guy like Roach sets a game plan for Pac to beat his fighters , he watches tape of them and finds weaknesses and areas where that opponent is vulnerable and I am interested to see if Emmanuel will do the same, because thats one thing I think Cotto has always lacked. His game plan is usually just to use his skill, power and combos and if the opponent is giving him troubles or hurts him then he starts going low to the body.
I don't see what Cotto can learn from Manny or add to his arsenal from what Manny teaches.
Manny is a teacher of an upright, plant the back foot, use a stiff jab style that works for guys like Taylor Wlad and of course Hearns
Cotto is a front foot, torque with his his left (strong) side for leverage and using a jab for set up type of fighter
I have turned into quite the Cotto fan and I hope he can indeed bounce back but I dont see what Manny brings
Cotto is a one handed fighter (left), Stewart teaches all his fighters how to drop that right with authority, that and he will push Cotto during training. Win win situation, I hope Cotto doesn't beat him up like he did Evangelista.
I agree with most of what ur saying except the manny aint good for him arguement. I think he is just the typwe of trainer that he needs, manny is a no nonsense kind of guy and that alone could be a major difference in the mental aspect of his game.
I dont see it. Manny couldn't gain Wlad's respect in the last fight and he has been his trainer for a while whats to say stubborn assed Cotto wont do the same?
if he feels that he has someone setting up a solid gameplan , and not just folding to everything he says that some of the initial confidence cotto once had may show up.
maybe but its a bit of a reach to employ a trainer who really doesn't enhance his style
it'll be interesting to see wat manny can do, cuz like u said he's best when working with a rangy fighter like hearns and taylor, both of which were pretty tall. but we'll see i guess.
yeah we will see but I just wonder if this is a reach and one that could cost Cotto the fight
It can only get better from Santiago, that's for sure.
thats what i was thinking, steward might not be a perfect fit but santiago is a trainwreck. i doubt it will matter though, cotto seems shot to me. hope im wrong but thats just the way i see it.
I think Manny's got more in his arsenal than that. I don't think he'll impose that strategy on a shorter guy like Cotto. Of course he'd use it on a giant like wlad, but i don't think he's limited to that, I dunno tho, what shorter guys has manny worked with?
you just answered your own question
even guys like the McCrorys and Paul were still one-two guys
I know he worked with Chavez and Pryor for a little while, Hamed too but that didn't really go so well
He did nothing for Hamed. Nada. Except maybe in the Ingle fight (I think).
I don't see what Cotto can learn from Manny or add to his arsenal from what Manny teaches.
Manny is a teacher of an upright, plant the back foot, use a stiff jab style that works for guys like Taylor Wlad and of course Hearns
Cotto is a front foot, torque with his his left (strong) side for leverage and using a jab for set up type of fighter
I have turned into quite the Cotto fan and I hope he can indeed bounce back but I dont see what Manny brings
I agree with most of what ur saying except the manny aint good for him arguement. I think he is just the typwe of trainer that he needs, manny is a no nonsense kind of guy and that alone could be a major difference in the mental aspect of his game.. if he feels that he has someone setting up a solid gameplan , and not just folding to everything he says that some of the initial confidence cotto once had may show up.
it'll be interesting to see wat manny can do, cuz like u said he's best when working with a rangy fighter like hearns and taylor, both of which were pretty tall. but we'll see i guess.
I don't see what Cotto can learn from Manny or add to his arsenal from what Manny teaches.
Manny is a teacher of an upright, plant the back foot, use a stiff jab style that works for guys like Taylor Wlad and of course Hearns
Cotto is a front foot, torque with his his left (strong) side for leverage and using a jab for set up type of fighter
I have turned into quite the Cotto fan and I hope he can indeed bounce back but I dont see what Manny brings
I think Steward can help his defense.
He can work on his clinching.
Using his jab more effectively to set up other punches.
And since Steward does train a lot of guys who fight like Foreman he can provided great sparring partners.
And he has the insight on how to fight guys like Foreman.
that's why I don't understand this move, Manny's fighters aren't exactly great inside fighters and if Cotto's going to move up to 154, he's going to be at a height and reach disadvantage against almost everybody he faces there
I think Manny's got more in his arsenal than that. I don't think he'll impose that strategy on a shorter guy like Cotto. Of course he'd use it on a giant like wlad, but i don't think he's limited to that, I dunno tho, what shorter guys has manny worked with?
Too late. Way too late. And as E said, not sure it's that great a fit. But Steward has been wanting the job for a long time so maybe he seems something. But at this stage, I'm not sure it matters.
i'm not too sure if cotto will humble himself enough to listen and follow steward and let his coach run the show.
I think Manny P may have humbled him enough for the both of them. Steward won't take any crap from cotto, i think this will be the test for if cotto is shot or not.
I don't see what Cotto can learn from Manny or add to his arsenal from what Manny teaches.
Manny is a teacher of an upright, plant the back foot, use a stiff jab style that works for guys like Taylor Wlad and of course Hearns
Cotto is a front foot, torque with his his left (strong) side for leverage and using a jab for set up type of fighter
I have turned into quite the Cotto fan and I hope he can indeed bounce back but I dont see what Manny brings
great move by Cotto. he finally has a world class proven great trainer with him. his uncle and the other guy were towel holders who probably will never develop or guide any other top fighters. Cotto isn't shot he just took two tough losses to two great fighters in their prime. I like Steward with Cotto and he could make positive modifications. Foreman will be a tough test to solve though.
Steward is a trainer that Cotto is gonna respect for obvious reasons. Cotto does have boxing ability that he has shown when he gets hurt or is tired. Also he has the ability to turn lefty and being effective to some degree. Steward knows this and is not to change the fighter but to use what he has to make him better.
If Cotto want to continue his career it is what he has to do. To a degree it helped Barrera to be such a slugger and use his boxing/counterpunching ability and it extended his career greatly after the Jones loses. Also Steward helped Chavez in the Randall rematch to box more and not to depend soley on his power since Chavez did have the ability to box.
I guess we will wait and see but Foreman size and ability looks like a hard matchup.
i'm excited for cotto as well and i hope it works!
however, part of me is very skeptical about this cotto/steward tandem. i'm not too sure if cotto will humble himself enough to listen and follow steward and let his coach run the show.
we all know cotto practically runs his training camp (i think even when he was with evangelista) and is surrounded by yes-men.
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