Does anyone remember Pavlik/Hopkins? You DON'T throw 100+ punches when the other fighter ISN'T in range. It would actually be STUPID to do so. Hopkins controlled the "range" on the fight. Floyd is ALSO very good at that. Hopkins mixed in "holding" at the proper time too and that kept Pavlik from getting in a rhythm. If Pacman was to win it'll have to be from SKILL and POWER. Floyd is probably the most "skilled" fighter out there, so the "skill" options not going to work. It'll have to be POWER, and Pacman has plenty of that. I'll assume Floyd will react to that power like the rest of the WW's have. And they haven't been able to withstand it. But there is the next problem....you have to CONNECT on Floyd for the POWER to mean anything. We ALL know that's no easy task. Clottey withstood the power by not getting hit by it. But he also didn't throw punches. Floyd's defense is NOT Clottey's. His defense involves MOVEMENT, AVOIDANCE, and COUNTERING. Pavliks power meant NOTHING cause he couldn't connect with it. So for Pacmans sake, I hope her really DOES have a way to break down Floyds defense that he claims is so easy to decipher. Cause I haven't seen it decipher yet.
I don't think he's one dimensional at all. I just think his power is his best chance of winning and it'll be a tough task to land that power. If he can figure out how he should be in good shape. But it might not be as easy as he seems to think being that NO ONE has been able to land much on Mayweather.
Judah land a flush straight left and winning the early rds, Corley the same straight left lands, Judah KD floyd with the right hook. The 1st Lefty Floyd fought Sanders give him problems and Floyd was gifted in that fight. I scored that a Draw. Castillo's pressure makes Floyd fight scared. DLH makes PBF ordinary. Hatton wins some rounds on Floyd.
Pac has more power than all those guys, Pac is much faster than all of them, Pac is a much better Pressure fighter than a prime Castillo. Pac has a better Right Hooks and Much better stamina than Judah.
Floyd has just have the best Defense. But another excellent defensive fighter like Clottey becomes only a Punching Bag with Pac. PBF must have better skills and Movement but He dont have the size of Clottey. Floyd can Run but he cant hide coz Pac has an Endless stamina. Now u still wonder why Floyd still Ducks Pac??
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If Manny lands like that, Floyd is going to sleep.
Floyd has a great chin. He doesnt shoulder roll vs. Lefties anymore either.
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If Manny lands like that, Floyd is going to sleep.
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Yes, all that PBF needs is the perfect counter-punch. Just like the way JuanMa rocked Pac’s chin. Too bad for Pac that PBF is da best of both worlds – skill and power section. :dance:
I never said you did, I was responding to a poster who said it was. You responded to me cuz I guees you had a problem with what I was saying. Floyd has said it is easy. But, obviously he is one of the smartest dude in boxing and don't really feel that way.
Pac is saying Floyd's style is not difficult now too its really just posturing i just want the fight and hopefully we get it.
Does anyone remember Pavlik/Hopkins? You DON'T throw 100+ punches when the other fighter ISN'T in range. It would actually be STUPID to do so. Hopkins controlled the "range" on the fight. Floyd is ALSO very good at that. Hopkins mixed in "holding" at the proper time too and that kept Pavlik from getting in a rhythm. If Pacman was to win it'll have to be from SKILL and POWER. Floyd is probably the most "skilled" fighter out there, so the "skill" options not going to work. It'll have to be POWER, and Pacman has plenty of that. I'll assume Floyd will react to that power like the rest of the WW's have. And they haven't been able to withstand it. But there is the next problem....you have to CONNECT on Floyd for the POWER to mean anything. We ALL know that's no easy task. Clottey withstood the power by not getting hit by it. But he also didn't throw punches. Floyd's defense is NOT Clottey's. His defense involves MOVEMENT, AVOIDANCE, and COUNTERING. Pavliks power meant NOTHING cause he couldn't connect with it. So for Pacmans sake, I hope her really DOES have a way to break down Floyds defense that he claims is so easy to decipher. Cause I haven't seen it decipher yet.
Pac's footspeed increases his range he's going to take punches coming in though. I wouldn't compare the pavlik/hopkins to this matchup really but I agree pac will throw less than he has in his last few fights. Longer guys pressure floyd a bit better. Pac won't be able to without eating a lot of leather. If Mosley elects to go with pressuring floyd which he most likely will then we will see a demo of that. just watch.
You comparing fighters who fight nothing alike. Clottey-Floyd do not fight alike. The gameplan they had for Clottey they will not have for Floyd. Take that into account. Since Clottey fights nothing like Floyd
Pavlik-Pacquio fight nothing alike. Pavlik at 170 does not have the speed or thows over 100 punches a round. Pavlik is not southpaw who uses a lot of movement like Pacquiao does. Hopkins control the range cuz Pavlik quick feet. Pacquiao does. It would be harder for Floyd to control the range than Hopkins had to deal with.
Mosley-Pacquioa do not fight nothing alike. Their power is the different is not the same. If Floyd could handle Shane power and aggresion and avoid Shane does not mean he would be able to do the same to Pac. Shane does not have the speed or the footwork that Pacquiao. Shane does not have the arsenal of punches that Pac has. Shane does not have the head movement that Pacquiao has. Shane is not a southpaw stance who gives very weird angles like Pacquiao does.
They're actually night and day different. So looking at any fight between these two fighters previous fights or future fights is actually stupid since neither fighter will be able to fight somebody who actually fights like the other. Is going to be harder to time Pac since he is very unorthodox his style is different and his speed, power, awkwardness, and movent is different from anybody else right now. Floyd has never ever ever ever fought anybody like Pac. So I can not say how Floyd could handle that style. And, Pac has never fought anybody like Floyd before. Nobody knows how this is going to play out. You can't even guess.
You're OBVIOUSLY seeing what you WANT to see. I'm comparing the gameplans. And they gave the SAME keys of victory for Clottey as they said for Mayweather......WORKRATE.
And if you can't see how if Mayweather can avoid the POWER and PRESSURE that Mosely puts on him can translate in him doing the SAME versus Manny, then you're either BLIND, BIASED, or don't know anything about boxing. Or possibly a combination of the 3.
All I know is this...
For 40mil I take any test
For 40mil I will fight Pac without a test and give him a baseball bat.
If Floyd is so easy then take any test fight him and prove it.
If Pac is so one dimensional, easy money, easy work. Then drop the demand school him, laugh all the way to the bank and be known as the best fighter of this era and ATG.
I agree. Oh well, we're just gonna have to wait and see how things works out.
Who says it would be easy. I'd always said that it could go either ways, but i never said it would be easy.
I never said you did, I was responding to a poster who said it was. You responded to me cuz I guees you had a problem with what I was saying. Floyd has said it is easy. But, obviously he is one of the smartest dude in boxing and don't really feel that way.
All I know is this...
For 40mil I take any test
For 40mil I will fight Pac without a test and give him a baseball bat.
If Floyd is so easy then take any test fight him and prove it.
If Pac is so one dimensional, easy money, easy work. Then drop the demand school him, laugh all the way to the bank and be known as the best fighter of this era and ATG.
Exactly, so it goes both ways right. Is obvious that both these fighters don't think it will be easy. So why make stupid ass comments like it will be easy?
Who says it would be easy. I'd always said that it could go either ways, but i never said it would be easy.
If Pac said he could easily break through Floyd's defense, why not prove it by taking the test randomly the next time both teams try to renegotiate?
Exactly, so it goes both ways right. Is obvious that both these fighters don't think it will be easy. So why make stupid ass comments like it will be easy?
If that is that easy to school Pac why not just drop the demand do it and take 40mil?
If Pac said he could easily break through Floyd's defense, why not prove it by taking the test randomly the next time both teams try to renegotiate? Oh yeah, he doesn't need Floyd Mayweather.
If that is that easy to school Pac why not just drop the demand do it and take 40mil?
If i know a fight is so easy, i would even require my opponent to have his wraps cemented just to make it a little competitive...
And, Floyd called Manny one dimensional and easy money and easy work. Too bad Floyd really does not feel that way and does not feel the way you did either. Because, if he did he would drop that demand and fight Pac, school Pac, and take 40mil to the bank. But, is obvious he is worried about something.
there is a reason why hes the smartest cat in boxing. no reason to take unnecessary risk against a cheater.
cheater comes in the fight clean proven by OST. they get the fight on and pac gets schooled.
cheater exposed
Pac has never failed a drug test. ****ing ignoramous
there is a reason why hes the smartest cat in boxing. no reason to take unnecessary risk against a cheater.
cheater comes in the fight clean proven by OST. they get the fight on and pac gets schooled.
cheater exposed
If that is that easy to school Pac why not just drop the demand do it and take 40mil?
And, Floyd called Manny one dimensional and easy money and easy work. Too bad Floyd really does not feel that way and does not feel the way you did either. Because, if he did he would drop that demand and fight Pac, school Pac, and take 40mil to the bank. But, is obvious he is worried about something.
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And, Floyd called Manny one dimensional and easy money and easy work. Too bad Floyd really does not feel that way and does not feel the way you did either. Because, if he did he would drop that demand and fight Pac, school Pac, and take 40mil to the bank. But, is obvious he is worried about something.
Yes, his zero and he knows his nuthuggers here will drop him like a hot potato if he lose that.