If Miranda broke Arthur's jaw,imagine what Andre will do to him

dirrel COULD hit abraham more than miranda. but he won't do the damage miranda did because: 1- he has much less power 2- he doesn't have the balls to do anything but run you can't hit a person with full leverage if you're basically running for your life for most of the fight Didnt you see the cuts and all the blood.That fight was nearly stopped because of the cuts and Abraham was grimacing throughout the fight because of the mean body shots. Anywhere the consensu on this forum is if you are not a so called puncher then you are not good which sounds retarded to me

I understood what he said perfectly he's just dumb for the way he put it. The biggest difference between Miranda and Direll is that Miranda actually trying to hit people. While Direll is just trying to fend them off. Mr know it all even though you know nothing what do you have to say now?Abraham looked like he had been in a car accident,do you think that came from running?

lol.. basicly TS is saying arthur has been hit in his 30+ fight career. what a bum. mayweather got wobbled by demarcus corley, hopkins was dropped twice by segundo mercado, winky wright was down 5 times against velasquez. my point is everyone gets tagged, including the best defensive fighters out there. the fact that u had to use a fight several years ago as an example of abraham being hit clean shows he has some very good defence. im sure dirrell will get some shots in fast as he is, but the fact that arthur took a flush shot from one of the p4p hardest punchers in the game aswell as fought almost an entire fight with a broken jaw shows hes gonna be extremely hard to stop for anyone even if they were too break through his guard. and on the other side around all it takes is one good punch from the king and the vast majority of the 168 and 175lbers out there will be laid out, their mind in another dimension dancing with leprechauns. http://p3.focus.de/img/gen/1/X/HB1XDpRr_4a432551060d_Pxgen_r_467xA.jpg http://cdn3.sbnation.com/entry_photo_images/140579/e94d0a13495f8680b270a4f60f772370-getty-91449349mk007_super_six_fig_large.jpg http://en.zhamanak.com/2008/4/1/a-560-b.jpg dirrells next.. You are just another idiot.What does this say about

you have no point miranda hits much harder then dirrell stupid thread Please repeat yor rubbish once more,you know shit about boxing

lol.. basicly TS is saying arthur has been hit in his 30+ fight career. what a bum. mayweather got wobbled by demarcus corley, hopkins was dropped twice by segundo mercado, winky wright was down 5 times against velasquez. my point is everyone gets tagged, including the best defensive fighters out there. the fact that u had to use a fight several years ago as an example of abraham being hit clean shows he has some very good defence. im sure dirrell will get some shots in fast as he is, but the fact that arthur took a flush shot from one of the p4p hardest punchers in the game aswell as fought almost an entire fight with a broken jaw shows hes gonna be extremely hard to stop for anyone even if they were too break through his guard. and on the other side around all it takes is one good punch from the king and the vast majority of the 168 and 175lbers out there will be laid out, their mind in another dimension dancing with leprechauns. http://p3.focus.de/img/gen/1/X/HB1XDpRr_4a432551060d_Pxgen_r_467xA.jpg http://cdn3.sbnation.com/entry_photo_images/140579/e94d0a13495f8680b270a4f60f772370-getty-91449349mk007_super_six_fig_large.jpg http://en.zhamanak.com/2008/4/1/a-560-b.jpg dirrells next..

Um ok... cool.

You would save a lot of time and emotion if you could read the whole post.I explained the reason for Miranda's name in the thread was to show Abraham is hittable.He has good defence but if a slow fighter like Miranda penetrated him can you imagine how much penetration Dirrell will have considering that Dirrell is faster and he moves a lot.I also explained due to that movement that means Dirrell has more angles to hit Abraham from. When you take this in perspective,Dirrell can actually hit Abraham from the sides because of the way Abraham defends himself.If you watched Abraham's fight with Miranda,that swelling wasnt because of one shot,it was an accumulation of punches.This is the reason why Dirrell will hit Arthur more.I never said Arthur's jaw will be broken. I see your point, but what you seem to overlook is that AA only needs one single chance, one flush shot and the fight will be over. As I've said a couple of times before, the winner of this fight will be the one who is more dedicated, strong willed. AA is the prototype of a fighter with an iron will. I predict that he is going to win by KO. I may be wrong, but that's what I think.

The point is Arthur gets hit and is beatable.Dirrel is faster and by far better than Miranda and he will shock you all To break someone's jaw you have to hit the person.What it means is Abraham's defence is not watertight.Miranda is slow yet he broke this guys jaw.Dirrel is powerful,maybe not as hard a puncher as Miranda but he is faster,intelligent and more technical.He will have more angles to hit Abraham from and the speed to move out before Abraham does anything.This will force Abraham to try and make this a dogfight thereby throwing all caution to the wind.Dirrell can then hit this guy and move at will. The Taylor fight is irrelevant,Taylor went there just to survive,he never wanted to hit Abraham.Dirrel is different and I see many underestimate him. No such thing as impenetrable defensive boxer.You will get hit eventually. Is Dirrell able to absorb Abraham's hooks?. Dirrell is a fine boxer and this is to his advantage along with his height and reach. But I doubt he would or could mix it up with Abraham punch for punch. Abraham will eventually get to him.

Maybe I'm wrong, but didn't Miranda break his jaw with his head? i thought miranda broke his jaw with a punch and then headbutted him after that but i could be wrong

I think Dirrell has a great chance, hes got cat like reflexes, i think he'll give arthur real problems, if hes careful enough not to get caught coz if he does i think he'll be scared to taste the power anymore if hes not knocked out already. Arthur needs to go to the body early in this one, to slow him down coz i think he'll find it hard to catch him to the head, early anyway.

Maybe I'm wrong, but didn't Miranda break his jaw with his head?

Not breaking his Jaw?

Dirrells Fast but is not acurate on his punches neither is he an intelligent fighter.

hahaha miranda hits 20 times harder

While Miranda punches harder than Dirrell, i think that Dirrell is still a powerful puncher. He staggered Froch, who has a world class chin and did anyone see the those accurate sharp hooks that brutalized Hanshaw? His power is definitely underrated IMO. I don't know about breaking his jaw but he has to power to get Abraham's attention if he underestimates it. From 6:35 on.

I understood what he said perfectly he's just dumb for the way he put it. The biggest difference between Miranda and Direll is that Miranda actually trying to hit people. While Direll is just trying to fend them off. Intelligent people dont use subjective statements like dump because we could be having a perception problem here.Having green K doesnt make you a more intelligent person

first off every fighter gets hit froch sloppy slow ass hit dirrel alot so what makes you think the king isnt. and so what miranda broke his jaw you can break someone jaw with one punch hit in the right spot at right time. that means nothing he still won the fight. that lil comparison makes no sense. if andre got his jaw broke he would quit or run and hold the whole night.

dont think TS realizes that shit happens in boxing.. you could never been cut during fight in your life but then one day you will.. and im pretty sure everyone learns from their situations.. Arthur is still undefeated.

Not only does Miranda punch a lot harder, he broke Abraham's jaw with a headbutt and then was unable to stop him. Dirrell will do nothing of the sort.

I guess most of the people that read this thread didn't get what the ts was trying to say lol. Well from what I read he is saying that if a slow one dimensional guy like Miranda can hit AA then Andre should be able to hit him even more since he is much faster and can hit at many angles. I understood what he said perfectly he's just dumb for the way he put it. The biggest difference between Miranda and Direll is that Miranda actually trying to hit people. While Direll is just trying to fend them off.