heres the full fight below...show me how froch even got near to losing this fight.
1) dirrlel did illegal ducking, showing the back of your head deliberately should have been a disq..
2) Dirrell held for 90 percent of the fight..the other 10 percent he fell over..
3)froch after 4 rounds bloodied dirrells face...and landed the best shot of the match, the left hook in the 8th..face..
4) why did dan rafael, jimmy iowa, allan green, graham houston, steven bunce, the ringside press, gary shaw(admitted dirrell didnt do enough), dirrells corner(you aint getting no decision here), the bigragu(youtubes biggest boxing pundit), ******** boxing forum, boxing snene all score it for froch...even if you replaced the ringside press with the judges froch won, are they on the pay roll as well...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATrAhwIclhw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3-qEH90blc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_K3bTx--7Hs&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhU0KMK196A&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Phta5fkCDTw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwAafcuqJ_U&feature=related
Wasn't a robbery (aside from the 118-110 card)
The closest i personally could have scored it, being as generous to PW as possible, was a draw. That 1 card lets you know someone has their pockets stuffed though.
The Cintron decision (s) lol where ..............not even a word for it.. I just feel bad for Martinez.
IMO, who you have winning the fight comes down to how you split the last two rounds.
I haven't watched the fight in a few months, but I felt rounds one through ten were pretty decisive as to who won them. However over the last two rounds it comes down to whether you preferred Williams' volume or Martinez's fewer, but cleaner blows.
I had it 115-113 Martinez, but can see a draw or 115-113 Williams.
I wouldn't call Martinez-Williams a robbery. I think that fight can be scored for Williams.
However, it was an atrocious scorecard.
Wasn't a robbery (aside from the 118-110 card)
The closest i personally could have scored it, being as generous to PW as possible, was a draw. That 1 card lets you know someone has their pockets stuffed though.
The Cintron decision (s) lol where ..............not even a word for it.. I just feel bad for Martinez.
Too bad boxing doesn't work this way, there are no special rules for title fights. Every boxing fight, title or not, the winner is declared by whoever wins the most rounds, PERIOD. This notion that "he didn't do enough to take the title" is absolutely moronic (unless the fight actually ended in a draw (6 rounds to 6 rounds)). Either froch won more rounds or he didn't and there is no way in hell froch won 6-7 rounds.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_1WVfdfEBDJY/SuBlNzQAfvI/AAAAAAAAAAw/PSs6-fcNs84/s400/Froch-Dirrell+scores.bmp
^^^JOKE^^^
If you disagree with that approach that's one thing but to say that sentiment never existed is plain lying.
Why does Manny Steward or Letterman feel the same? Talk to any older boxing fan. Since it first started through to the 1980's at least that was pretty much standard when scoring a title fight.
I don't know and don't think it was ever an actual rule written down on a page somewhere but every sport has 'unwritten rules'. that is one in boxing and always has been until recently.
what about Martinez. Cintron and PW. Fighters from Spain should definitely avoid the US
I wouldn't call Martinez-Williams a robbery. I think that fight can be scored for Williams.
However, it was an atrocious scorecard.
Noteworthy? Nah. Only Campillo and he got robbed against Shumenov recently, in Las Vegas, USA, how ironic, isn't it?
what about Martinez. Cintron and PW. Fighters from Spain should definitely avoid the US
i'm giving you 10,000 points for this post...i am begging someone to attempt to make a froch video like that...
You mean one which only shows Froch landing shots and Dirrell running, holding and falling down? Im sure it could be done.
Noteworthy? Nah. Only Campillo and he got robbed against Shumenov recently, in Las Vegas, USA, how ironic, isn't it?
OK cool, atleast you understand the mexcians lol
anyone that thinks froch won that fight should follow another sport
Another one with more expertise in the sport than respected boxing writers and pundits. Wow, they're really missing a trick by not scowering NSB for talent.
mcclellan vs benn that fight should have been stopped in the first round now gman is blind and tarded good work guys
want more-------no mas?
hatton vs tszyu = fix. count the fouls.
Wow you gave two horrible examples. Certainly more than enough to insinuate that Britain has a "history of bad decisions" (wtf?). Well done.:You_Rock_
Must suck being where? I'm not from the UK if that's what you're implying. It's funny, I get called a yank by the british and a british by the yanks :lol1:
I always thought you were a German or something lol
every country does have bad decisions but nothing like uks history. it must suck being there but u got to see it.
Must suck being where? I'm not from the UK if that's what you're implying. It's funny, I get called a yank by the british and a british by the yanks :lol1:
Too bad boxing doesn't work this way, there are no special rules for title fights. Every boxing fight, title or not, the winner is declared by whoever wins the most rounds, PERIOD. This notion that "he didn't do enough to take the title" is absolutely moronic (unless the fight actually ended in a draw (6 rounds to 6 rounds)). Either froch won more rounds or he didn't and there is no way in hell froch won 6-7 rounds.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_1WVfdfEBDJY/SuBlNzQAfvI/AAAAAAAAAAw/PSs6-fcNs84/s400/Froch-Dirrell+scores.bmp
^^^JOKE^^^
I've never seen the scorecards before. WOW. That just makes my opinion Froch got the hometown decision obvious.
mcclellan vs benn that fight should have been stopped in the first round now gman is blind and tarded good work guys
want more-------no mas?
hatton vs tszyu = fix. count the fouls.
Floyd VS Judah was fixed.
Soon as Uncle roger stepped in and attacked Judah, should have been a NC or some shit
You do know that if someone drops out the ring, you give extra time to get in
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The rules of boxing vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, and on whether it is an amateur or professional bout. A violation of the following rules is considered a foul, and can result in a point deduction or disqualification:
* You cannot hit below the belt, hold, trip, kick, headbutt, wrestle, bite, spit on, or push your opponent.
* You cannot hit with your head, shoulder, forearm, or elbow.
* You cannot hit with an open glove, the inside of the glove, the wrist, the backhand, or the side of the hand.
* You cannot punch your opponent's back, or the back of his head or neck (rabbit punch), or on the kidneys (kidney punch).
* You cannot throw a punch while holding on to the ropes to gain leverage.
* You can't hold your opponent and hit him at the same time, or duck so low that your head is below your opponent's belt line.
* When the referee breaks you from a clinch, you have to take a full step back; you cannot immediately hit your opponent--that's called "hitting on the break" and is illegal.
* You cannot spit out your mouthpiece on purpose to get a rest.
* If you score a knockdown of your opponent, you must go to the farthest neutral corner while the referee makes the count.
* If you "floor" your opponent, you cannot hit him when he's on the canvas.
* A floored boxer has up to ten seconds to get back up on his feet before losing the bout by knockout.
* A boxer who is knocked down cannot be saved by the bell in any round, depending upon the local jurisdiction's rules.
* A boxer who is hit with an accidental low blow has up to five minutes to recover. If s/he cannot continue after five minutes, s/he is considered knocked out.
* If the foul results in an injury that causes the fight to end immediately, the boxer who committed the foul is disqualified.
* If the foul causes an injury but the bout continues, the referee orders the judges to deduct two points from the boxer who caused the injury.
* If an unintentional foul causes the bout to be stopped immediately, the bout is ruled a "no contest" if four rounds have not been fully completed. (If the bout was scheduled for four rounds, then three rounds must have been completed.) If four rounds have been completed, the judges' scorecards are tallied and the fighter who is ahead on points is awarded a technical decision. If the scores are even, it will be called a "technical draw."
* If a boxer is knocked out of the ring, he gets a count of 20 to get back in and on his feet. He cannot be assisted.
* In some jurisdictions the standing eight-count or the three knockdown rule also may be in effect.
* In other jurisdictions, only the referee can stop the bout.
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Tyson VS Holyfield was a fix. Holyfield headbutted Tyson and got him pissed so he bit his ear
froch landed 3% of his punches
dirrell landed about 38%
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Along with the fact Dirrell outlanded Froch, that sums up how you are supposed to win a fight. Dirrell did screw himself over by fighting ugly, but still how can anyone say Froch WON the fight rather than Dirrell LOST the fight.