if pacquiao beats the mosley-mayweather winner and retires - what # ATG is he?

He's only moving up if he beats Floyd. He's not moving up if he beats old grandpa Mosley. You guys forgot he's too old, too slow, past his prime, etc? :moon:

where do you feel that pacquiao stands all time if he wins over the mayweather-mosley winner (in convincing fashion) and then retires? non biased answers please. please dont post if you have less than 500 posts and pacquiao in your avatar or sig i am a fan of pacs, and hes probably the most exciting fighter and possibly - the most talented of this decade. it seems that way for now at least. but as i am only truly familiar with boxing back to the mid 90s, i - as a boxing fan - can not give a real opinion on where pacquiao stands all time. pacqiuao would be in top 30 ATG if he beats the winner of shane vs floyd and also i reckon he would be a #2 great p4p fighter just after Sugar Ray Robinson

where do you feel that pacquiao stands all time if he wins over the mayweather-mosley winner (in convincing fashion) and then retires? non biased answers please. please dont post if you have less than 500 posts and pacquiao in your avatar or sig i am a fan of pacs, and hes probably the most exciting fighter and possibly - the most talented of this decade. it seems that way for now at least. but as i am only truly familiar with boxing back to the mid 90s, i - as a boxing fan - can not give a real opinion on where pacquiao stands all time. :haha: That is hilarious. Ahhhh on top of the world...........

still, what i said were facts.....who knew what could've happened if they did'nt add weightclassses?.....does is mean pac would've never won some of of the titles he won, hell no.......pac being a 4 div champ out of the original 8 remains a fact..... a fact? you are retarded. no one can say FOR SURE either way i guess, but the odds are certainly against pacquiao (and any other fighter in this case). divisions would be MORE stacked, meaning he would likely have to face more contenders in each division, and much harder opposition each time. he never would have fought a david diaz, there would not have been any room for that. instead of all these fighters gunning for 4 different titles across several different weight classes, youd have a bunch that are gunning for 1 title, in 1 weight class. like i said - imagine if 154 147 and 140 all merged into one class. how ****ing hard would it be to go through and win 4 divisional titles in weight classes like that? not to discredit pacquiaos victories, but ledwaba and david diaz would have never held titles back in the day. it doesnt mean that pacquiao is any less good - it just means that boxing has been watered down and you can't say that pacquiao would have been the champ of HALF of the divisions in boxing back in the day. its just absurd. pacquiao would have to fight alot more fights, and maybe unify all the marbles at 147 and 154 before a claim like that could even be made. pacquiao still hasnt fought a margarito or a pwill, someone extremely tall with tons of physical advantages (way more so than clottey). and those are the kinds of fights pacquiao would HAVE to take to win shit back in the day.

where do you feel that pacquiao stands all time if he wins over the mayweather-mosley winner (in convincing fashion) and then retires? non biased answers please. please dont post if you have less than 500 posts and pacquiao in your avatar or sig i am a fan of pacs, and hes probably the most exciting fighter and possibly - the most talented of this decade. it seems that way for now at least. but as i am only truly familiar with boxing back to the mid 90s, i - as a boxing fan - can not give a real opinion on where pacquiao stands all time. I have to rank him in the top 20, but if he took more fights after that and beat some of these guys like Khan, Berto, Malignaggi, Margarito, Foreman, Alvares, all these young and talented fighters, hed crack the top 10... If he fought and beat Mayweather, I think hed be wise to somewhere down the line, schedule a fight with Mosley too, and if Mosley wins and he fights Mosley first, he needs to end up fighting Mayweather too eventually.. Hed definitely be top 10... Right now as it stands I think Mayweather is top 10 or 15 all time p4p. If he beats Mosley hes definitely top 10, and if he fought and beat Pac hed be top 5 easily..

If he beats floyd then he will be top 3 for me.

btw steward had Marquez p4p#1 just last year. Are you trying to tell me that Manny can go from #2 p4p in 09' to top 3 atg in less than a YEAR??? Please Pacfans explain that to me

This thread has exposed the people with very limited knowledge of boxers-anyone saying Pac is within the top 5 is very new to this sport... Yeah, Stewart don't know shit about boxing. He is exposed. That dude definitely hasn't been around the sport longer than you.

I'll just wait for the real boxing experts that have the real authority to decide the top ATGs. I'll just keep my own opinion to myself. I agree, and I believe the experts will have Pac in a very lofty position on the list.

If steward who is more knowledgeable to all the posters here combined put him at top 3 after the cotto fight how much more if beats mosley and mayweather i bet steward will make pac a GOAT. your opinion is different to mine, you put pac at top 25 that's fine but for me i have pac at top 3. hbo=cheerleaders. Dont take that comment to the head. But do you honestly think Pac is better than any of those fighters i mentioned before?

If steward who is more knowledgeable to all the posters here combined put him at top 3 after the cotto fight how much more if beats mosley and mayweather i bet steward will make pac a GOAT. . But Steward said he's in the top 5. Stop acting like you know more than him. You see what I mean? :rofl:

This thread has exposed the people with very limited knowledge of boxers-anyone saying Pac is within the top 5 is very new to this sport... indeed............he isn't even top 20...........

But Steward said he's in the top 5. Stop acting like you know more than him. Is that the same Steward who favoured a 38 year old Sharmba Mitchell to beat Floyd Mayweather??? How about the Steward character who favoured Baldomir to beat Mayweather??? This the same guy who said John Duddy would be the greatest ever???? ????

forgot to add..floyd is already # 3 ..robinson and ali in front of him and tyson right behind him..if pac takes the blood test he can have spot # 5. :lol1: Don't tell me you're serious. 100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3

This thread has exposed the people with very limited knowledge of boxers-anyone saying Pac is within the top 5 is very new to this sport...

Pacquiao over Ali Duran Leanard ROBINSON???? lmaoo these pactards are getting crazier and crazier i would deff have Manny top 25 tho IF he were to beat Floyd...thats a big if If steward who is more knowledgeable to all the posters here combined put him at top 3 after the cotto fight how much more if beats mosley and mayweather i bet steward will make pac a GOAT. your opinion is different to mine, you put pac at top 25 that's fine but for me i have pac at top 3.

But Steward said he's in the top 5. Stop acting like you know more than him.

Pacfans truly believe if Pac fights and beats the winner of Floyd vs Shane he is a top 5 atg????? - Ali - SRR - SRL - Duran - Louis - Pep - Armstrong - Foreman - Hearns - Hagler Just throwing some names out there.........that's 10 names in no particular order.........but you gents think Pac is a top 5 atg.....so who does Pac get the nod ahead of????? Is he a higher ATG than SRL? Is he a higher ATG than SRR? Is he a higher ATG than Ali? Is he a higher ATG than Duran? Is he a higher ATG than Pep? I think you all know the answers to those questions.....yet somehow u manage to slot in a spot in the top 5.......... Pacfans are delirious!!!!!!!!!!!

If you're talking about fantasy ATGs, Floyd would probably #2 edging Batman by a country mile and a tad below Atg #1 Superman. LOL..........Floyd is only belong in the fantasy world. nyahahahaha

As long as pac is the FIGHTER OF THE DECADE i'm satisfied with it, i'll just wait for the boxing historians and boxing experts to decide where will they put pac in the ATG list.