Who do think has had a more impressive career so far? I looked at both their careers objectivly and here is what stood out to me. Before Manny moved up in weight to fight Oscar I think most people would say Floyd had the better career to that point. The biggest names on his resume up to that point were Oscar, Jose Louis Castillo, Diego Coralles, Zab Judah, and Gatti. Manny's biggest names were Marquez who is was 1-0-1 against, Morales who he was 2-1 against and Barerra. The reason floyds career up to that point is more impressive is because he was still undefeated having only been close to losing in the first Castillo fight. Manny had lost 3 times and had one draw. Both fought solid opponents up to that point. Since then Floyd KO'd an undefeated Hatton and dominated Marquez, both were comming off big solid wins. Manny beat the crap out of Oscar who had just lost to Floyd but beat Forbes in a warm up fight, killed Hatton who had lost to Floyd 18 months prior but had a solid win over Malignaggi, owned Cotto who had been KO'd my Margarito just before he narrowley defeated Clottey, and Clottey who just lost to Cotto.
Manny looked better in his wins than Floyd did but if you look at the context of the fights and when they took place they are not that great. Manny should get a couple extra points for moving up so many weight classes so fast. Who do you guys think has had a better career?
What are you talking about? It says alot about the voters who voted for a cheater and a scared little pussy. You are the fighter of the decade but you are not able to take blood test because you get weak? Thats who you love? A steroid user who is a ducker. If he is so much better than Mayweather, why not take the test and fight him?
They voted pac because of what pac has accomplished this decade, why would they vote floyd if all he did was to duck the best opponent in his division, if he didn't retire instead he fought cotto, margarito, p.will even i as a pac fan would say that floyd deserved the award. Now you're acting like pac a proven cheater, do you have at least 1 evidence to back it up? Pacquiao himself didn't say anything that he is better than floyd, how about floyd did you heard him say he was better than pac? Floyd even said that he is better than ali, robinsons, leonard, pacquiao combined. Now why don't floyd drop his OST and just use the test that he had been using in his last 40 fights if he really believe that he was that good.
Both have great resumes. The only difference is Mayweather didn't use steroids. The jury is still out on Manny. If he prooves that he is a clean fighter then he has one hell of a resume. 7 weight classes is crazy. Thats why he should want to be tested. There is alot a stake. People like myself question if he is legit.
How the F**k do you know that Floyd is not using steroids. And how the F**k do you know that Manny is on steroids. Both of them never tested positive for PED, oh, except Floyd admitted using xylocaine.
Manny has taken hundreds of tests, blood and urine and guess what, THEY ALL CAME OUT NEGATIVE!!!!!!! So he has proven it time and time again. So you can't say he hasn't or all his previous test don't count, because then that's bull$hit.
He has taken the blood test 1 day before the Morales fight and he blames his lost because of that blood test made him feel weak. That's why he doesn't want to take the test before the fight. But he did offer to take the blood test right after the fight to prove that he is clean.
Don't accuse someone if you can't back it up some proof.
You don't like Floyd. Your just a pactard with Manny's dick in your mouth. The only world you live in is pactard world. Shut the **** up and go jack off to wapakman
Relax buddy, as i said floyd could still be a fighter of the decade in your fantasy world, but we are in the real world and the BWAA, HBO etc.. selected pacquiao as a fighter of the decade and you could do nothing to change it. I know it hurts but what can you do? :dunno: nyahahaahaha
and who are these RACIST Biased MEDIA you are talking about?
^^he's referring to the ones that don't believe mayweather is god. also, if they don't have "african" next to their census sheet information.
it's always going to be a race thing with people that make those type of comments. don't entice ignorant people that throw that word around cause their not getting what they want or believe. they want a silver spoon.
honestly guys like that say they appreciate and KNOW boxing yet. why do they hate pac so much? cause of his publicity? cause he's getting what he deserves....being a nice guy obviously he isn't last? how could they really hate him? he's the true entertainer. pbf is just BOXINGS DRAMA QUEEN with extreme defense skill and massive skill to adapt. absolute no hate for his skill but his overall person is complete shit.
The racist biased media who don't like Mayweather voted Pacquiao fighter of the decade. Real fans who been around the sport for a long time know the truth. Mayweather was fighter of the decade by far.
and who are these RACIST Biased MEDIA you are talking about?
I never said Catillo and Corales were better than Morrales and Barrera. I just thought Floyd's wins over them was better than Paquiao's 3 wins and one loss.
why are acting like Floyd didn't beat Marquez also? The reason why Castillo and Coralles outwieghs Morales and Barerra is because Paquiao lost to Morales and his first fight with Marquez was a draw even though he scored 3 knockdowns which means he was out boxed over 11 rounds.
Lets put down aside our opinion and let the boxing writers, boxing experts and boxing historians decide. Oh wait they already decided. Every boxing websites, online news websites, writers, experts and historians they already put Pac higher than Floyd in atg status.:haha:
So you think corrales & castillo are better win for floyd than pacquiao's wins vs barerra, morales, & marquez?
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
You wont find a credible boxing writer to agree with you. Hell, id find it hard for a flomo to agree with that statement.
btw, morales, marquez, & barerra>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>castillo & corrales.
pheww, i almost mistook you for a poster that knew what he was talking about.
man thanks for the laugh.
why are acting like Floyd didn't beat Marquez also? The reason why Castillo and Coralles outwieghs Morales and Barerra is because Paquiao lost to Morales and his first fight with Marquez was a draw even though he scored 3 knockdowns which means he was out boxed over 11 rounds.
Castillo and an underrated corrales out weighs Morales and Barrera. They both have wins over Hatton and Marquez. Floyd does not have a name to compare to Cotto. Clotty who just got beat by Cotto is as impressive as Baldomire or Zab Juddah.
You can't be so serious putting Castillo and Corrales at the same sentence to these multiple divisions champ HOF fighters the likes of Barrera and Morales. Aren't you?
so who on floyd's resume as of right now is better than morales, barerra, marquez, hatton, cotto, & clottey?
I would like to see this answer.
Castillo and an underrated corrales out weighs Morales and Barrera. They both have wins over Hatton and Marquez. Floyd does not have a name to compare to Cotto. Clotty who just got beat by Cotto is as impressive as Baldomire or Zab Juddah.
Both have great resumes. The only difference is Mayweather didn't use steroids. The jury is still out on Manny. If he prooves that he is a clean fighter then he has one hell of a resume. 7 weight classes is crazy. Thats why he should want to be tested. There is alot a stake. People like myself question if he is legit.
Mayweather is the biggest steriod user of them both, that's why he's 40-0...true
40 have tried
40 have failed
36 were not very good.....
Now use that same line on Paquiao. How many of his opponents were not very good? How many of his oppenents succeeded? How many of his oppenents who succeeded were not very good?
This isn't even an argument. Mayweather is an underacheiver, if he isn't American, his so-called career wouldn't even be that big a deal. Gatti, Corrales and Hatton is practically his career.
Both have great resumes. The only difference is Mayweather didn't use steroids. The jury is still out on Manny. If he prooves that he is a clean fighter then he has one hell of a resume. 7 weight classes is crazy. Thats why he should want to be tested. There is alot a stake. People like myself question if he is legit.
So what do you think about all the tests Pac took everytime he has a fight, the same tests Floyd took all of his 40 fights for erectile dysfunction? I'm not against about cleaning the sport but if Floyd really wants it why he didn't do it to all his 40 fights? Floyd and flomos cant believe someone like Asian Pac who started from 106 all the way up to 147 can be that succesfull. So he must be on steroids. Then they completely ignoring the fact that Floyd himself started also at 106 and went up higher than Pac fighting then dominating a healthty Oscar at 154 while Pac doesn't want to go up any further. So Pac must be juicing while Floyd is not? Then you sum up the xylocaine Floyd has been using which is a banned substance in many US states. You think they banned it just for fun? My quick google search said, xylocaine when abused you will get the same high like cocaine beside helping you to punch harder own your opponents equals PED!
You're right.
Do you think Floyd will be favored against Pac?
I think that yes he will be favored and rightly so. But if Pac were to beat the odds again, I hope it would be this fight. :boxing: I'm rooting for my fellow Pinoy. Personally thinks his chance of winning it is at 40%. I do hope he shocks me again. Lolzzzzzz.
You're right.
Do you think Floyd will be favored against Pac?
Let me share my opinion on this Burner.
Personally I favor Floyd against Pacquiao... he is that good, no matter what people say about Floyd outside the ring it is utter bullshit to disregard Floyd's extreme talent. He is a defensive master and very calculated in releasing his offense. Floyd is Prime, Pacquiao is still priming.
Both Pacquiao and Floyd are dangerous to each others legacy... but in the end... we the fans are in a win-win situation, they are our fighters, don't look at the race or nationality. They are here to fight for us to watch. Enjoy them while they last.