if lebron chose boxin instead of basketball.....

if wayne rooney was a boxer he'd knock mayweather the fukk out too, too bad he chose football instead.:nonono:

For most things in life i completely agree. Violence is another matter though and one thing that your statement doesn't include. Most people will do almost anything to avoid a physical confrontation and the level of that which is required in boxing and the ability to not only endure but thrive and be motivated by it is outside you Philosophy. btw yes there are some things that are innate in people. Some people are naturals but even so when you are talking about the mind that blade needs to be honed and sharpened. Fighters are a different breed but I think that comes from living that life, not every great athlete can be a fight but every great fighter is a great athlete to me being a great athlete includes a certain mental toughness. Now this mental toughness is more important in boxing than other sports but if I could go back in time and funnel a bunch of NBA players (could use any world class athletes from whatever sport around the world but NBA players are tall and rangy which is the body type I think makes the best boxers) as youngsters into boxing a decent ammount would adjust but most would wash out of course since boxing is one of the toughest sports. Tough to say if they would get all the way to the top of the sport since that is a long hard road but I would rather start off with those type of athletes than say someone like Eddie Chambers.

Here we go again with that bullshit. If Lionel Messi would have chosen boxing instead of soccer, he'd be the best welterweight in the world.

You serious? I am sorry that you can not respect the opinion of others that is also a sign of mental weakness because you lack confidence in your beliefs. You gain mental strength over time through experiance and hard work, it can also easily be lost. There is all kind of shit that effects someone mentally to make it sound so simple that you are born with it or not. The human brain is the most amazing thing if you can convince yourself of something anything can be possible and you do not need to start out with that conviction. For most things in life i completely agree. Violence is another matter though and one thing that your statement doesn't include. Most people will do almost anything to avoid a physical confrontation and the level of that which is required in boxing and the ability to not only endure but thrive and be motivated by it is outside your Philosophy. btw yes there are some things that are innate in people.

We can argue nature versus nurture all you want but nothing will change~

Wow you could not be more wrong. It's innate and your lack of appreciation for boxers in general is unbelievable. In regards to Klitschko i know that you have no understanding of the Soviet School that they grew up in. You were fed to the wolves from day 1 and were worked to the bone so anyone who couldn't measure up were weeded out & mentally and/or physically broken (we're talking about children keep in mind) sink or swim approach. The best athletes from all over the Soviet Union who looked like their attributes would make good fighters (like james) were tried and the vast majority were broken and discarded. That kind of physical and mental toughness isn't something you aquire after some long term experimenting and touch and go approach. The fact that you call yourself a boxing fan and lack of respect is sad really. You serious? I am sorry that you can not respect the opinion of others that is also a sign of mental weakness because you lack confidence in your beliefs. You gain mental strength over time through experiance and hard work, it can also easily be lost. There is all kind of shit that effects someone mentally to make it sound so simple that you are born with it or not. The human brain is the most amazing thing if you can convince yourself of something anything can be possible and you do not need to start out with that conviction.

They are both world class athletes, to many variables involved to know what would happean if Lebron wanted to box his whole life or if he had someone pushing him into the sport. The toughness of a boxer is forged and that takes a lot of time. Wow you could not be more wrong. It's innate and your lack of appreciation for boxers in general is unbelievable. In regards to Klitschko i know that you have no understanding of the Soviet School that they grew up in. You were fed to the wolves from day 1 and were worked to the bone so anyone who couldn't measure up were weeded out & mentally and/or physically broken (we're talking about children keep in mind) sink or swim approach. The best athletes from all over the Soviet Union who looked like their attributes would make good fighters (like james) were tried and the vast majority were broken and discarded. I assume that Cuba has a similar system too. That kind of physical and mental toughness isn't something you aquire after some long term experimenting and touch and go approach. The fact that you call yourself a boxing fan and lack of respect is sad really.

He has 200+ amateur fights and almost 60 pro fights, Lebron got hit a few times as a boy and stopped as the majority of ppl would. The toughness, heart, etc of any pro boxer is a whole different realm from most ppl. Comparing the two is insulting. Exactly. The turnover rate at my gym is shocking. 90% of the people turn up a few times, and then you never see them again. Some people fancy themselves as boxers but find out pretty quickly that being punched in the face isn't very fun or pleasurable. As it turns out, when I get punched in the face, the only thing I'm thinking of is hitting my opponent back, rather than wishing the bell would ring to end the round.

I know loads of people who excel at one sport but are useless in another. Just because Lebron is a great basketball player doesn't mean he would be a good boxer. Just because Lionel Messi is a great footballer it doesn't mean he would be a good golfer. Boxing takes blood, sweat, tears, determination, heart, will, intelligence, speed, accuracy, power, energy, stamina, movement, and whole lot of other attributes and intangibles to make it to the top. What if Lebron had the raw athleticism to be a great boxer, but also had a weak chin and a weak heart? Would he make it then?

Man I could care less if the athlete is from America, Europe, or where ever. This article is simply asking how Lebron would do as a boxer. More than likely because of how freakishly athletic and strong he is. He has athletic abilities like no other basketball player we've seen on any continent. So the question was proposed how would he fair as a boxer. I understand that other countries have great fighters. And many Americans do down play their greatness. But that is because they fighting most of their fights in their respective countries, and America is looked at as having the best boxers, and anyone who wants to make it big has to fight in America at some point. And that is true as of right now. But the more European fighters who make big names for themselves can bring American fighters to them. That's why the super six is great. Because it has boxing on a huge stage for the world to see in many different countries. But it also created another issue when Froch won a horrible decision against Dirrel. Now who would want to fight in another country if they feel they would not get a fair shake. But that is another topic. Bottom line is if you don't like the subject line then why even interject in this thread? hhhhhmmm lets not forget that tim bradley was given a SD in a very close fight versus witter in the same city the froch dirrell fight took place plus the froch fight was crap for both guys with dirrell looking the better boxer but i wouldnt call it a robbery by any means, not like some of the recent fights in america where the home cooking has been going into overdrive imo

He has 200+ amateur fights and almost 60 pro fights, Lebron got hit a few times as a boy and stopped as the majority of ppl would. The toughness, heart, etc of any pro boxer is a whole different realm from most ppl. Comparing the two is insulting. They are both world class athletes, to many variables involved to know what would happean if Lebron wanted to box his whole life or if he had someone pushing him into the sport. The toughness of a boxer is forged and that takes a lot of time.

Wlad certainly does not like getting hit and that has not stopped him from doing big things~ Also who likes getting punched in the face and gut, learning to endure is different then learning to like it. He has 200+ amateur fights and almost 60 pro fights, Lebron got hit a few times as a boy and stopped as the majority of ppl would. The toughness, heart, etc of any pro boxer is a whole different realm from most ppl. Comparing the two is insulting.

What about eastern european lightweight, welterweight, middleweights? are they soft ? Big american guys go to other sports, that's why America has some of the best p4p fighter but no great heavyweight. Big American guys go to other sports.... so do big guys anywhere. Rugby, basketball in Europe, same shit more or less.

You should read through the thread before posting Wlad certainly does not like getting hit and that has not stopped him from doing big things~ Also who likes getting punched in the face and gut, learning to endure is different then learning to like it.

Physically Lebron is a beast. He's an elite athlete and huge. Would he be the best boxer ever? Probably not. But would he be really good? I think there's no question. If you've seen him play you know he's tough and can take a few hits. I think I remember an article or interview about Lebron that said he tried boxing when he was younger but didn't like getting hit. Just because he's a physical phenom doesn't mean he would be a great boxer. Maybe I'm making it up, but I'm pretty sure I read that or saw it on TV or something. :lol1: You should read through the thread before posting

Of course is unknown. But, lets not act just cuz he is a hell of an athlete that he would be an elite fighter. Even if he started at boxing by the age 3 does not mean that automatically he would of had the intangibles to beat the Klitschko brothers or be a elite fighter period. There is not one really athletic heavy from the US which is why they suck they have trained hard and max out their potential but their ceiling is low. Athletes like Lebron have way higher ceilings. If you start with a shit base material you can only make it look so nice, but if you start with a dimond while it is not promised to be a fine piece of jewelry it can turn into that.

Or he could be the next generation of George Foreman since it is unknown. Of course is unknown. But, lets not act just cuz he is a hell of an athlete that he would be an elite fighter. Even if he started at boxing by the age 3 does not mean that automatically he would of had the intangibles to beat the Klitschko brothers or be a elite fighter period.

Exactly, I mentioned that on the first page. Just cuz you're a hell of an athelete does not mean you going to be an elite fight. I thought of Grant as well, and you're right, just cause you're a great athlete it by no means transfers to you being able to box. But Grant picked up boxing late. I believe if some of these great athletes had been boxing most of their lives, they could possibly be something great as a boxer.

Physically Lebron is a beast. He's an elite athlete and huge. Would he be the best boxer ever? Probably not. But would he be really good? I think there's no question. If you've seen him play you know he's tough and can take a few hits.

Exactly, I mentioned that on the first page. Just cuz you're a hell of an athelete does not mean you going to be an elite fight. Or he could be the next generation of George Foreman since it is unknown. Now chances favor someone failing in boxing since so few make it but if you start of with a better base material you are much more likely to get an exquisite final product~