do you reckon if floyd vs clottey happend would they have dun over 1million ppv???

This is the only post worth reading in this whole thread i take it your another 1 of packys cocck hoppers?????

Floyd Vs. Baldomir 350,000 Floyd Vs. Hatton 850,000 Floyd Vs. Judah 350,000 uh let me see....Floyd vs Clottey 500 at the most. Marquez and De La Hoya not counted do to the fact they are well known Elite fighters. Clottey has won one belt and has never been in a PPV fight. Pacquiao > Mayweather This is the only post worth reading in this whole thread

I think it would have done maybe 500-600k ppv's, just a shade under Pac's numbers People tune in to see Floyd lose and would they be convinced he'd lose against Clottey, whereas they tuned in to see Pac give an exciting fight (which he failed to give, altho that was Clottey's fault)

Not if it had the same level of non-promotion Pac-Clottey did. yes it would....just there names will sell this fight between ssm and pbf.....

Not if it had the same level of non-promotion Pac-Clottey did.

I don't know what world you live in if you thought Pacquiao's peak was in 2008 when he fought De La Hoya. Before that, nobody knew Pacquiao except filipinos,mexicans and fight fans. Beating De La Hoya was what jump-started Pacquiao's success and pushed him into the mainstream. Cotto was Pacquiao's highest money-making endeavor.. They both(compared to the DLH fight) sold 1.25 million, but the Cotto fight cost more to watch. And it's kinda unfair to compare a fight against the guy with the biggest draw and fanbase in the entire history of boxing(De La Hoya), with Cotto, so even if it cost the same, it still proves that Pacquiao's draw is growing. Same thing can be said about Mayweather, the only way to compare drawing power is from the PPV numbers and Mayweathers numbers against similar opponents are better than Pacquiaos, sorry but it is the truth. Mayweather-Mosley will sell more than any Pac PPV and Mosley isn't as big a draw as Cotto.

i reckon that they would have got it easy...... yep provided they postpone the fight due to injury to give more time for promotions., and move ghana next to the US, and and and convince a few thousands ghanians to immigrate to the US, and and and hold the fight during ghana independence day (if there isn't one yet, they need to make one first) ... oh and yeah make floyd retire for at least a year first so they can bill this fight as his return fight... again.

Marquez only became big because of Pacquiao.. and he carried that success and elevated it by beating Juan Diaz. If you take Pacquiao out of the picture, that win over diaz(if he could have even gotten the fight without Pacquiao) wouldn't have meant anything, and he'd still be a nobody-just like the days when all eyes were on barrera and morales. And De La Hoya-Pacquiao seemed like a mismatched circus fight.. the majority of people didn't even take it seriously because De La Hoya always historically comes in big, and always historically outboxes small fighters, plus Pacquiao was a featherweight.. Even I thought it was a circus fight.. I thought on fight night De La Hoya would be 20 pounds heavier than Pacquiao and would use his reach, size and boxing skill to dominate him. And let's not forget how Pacquiao's popularity and draw is growing every single year, every single fight.. while floyd's draw and popularity seems to have hit its peak against De La Hoya. So to compare Mayweather-Marquez to Pacquiao Marquez is just ignorant. This month alone I've seen Pacquiao on Good Morning America, Jimmy Kimmel, America's best dance crew and MTV cribs... I've only seen Floyd at the Super Bowl. :lol1: If Mayweather hit his peak with De La Hoya then so did Pacquiaos because they are both fighters biggest PPV's. He was comparing Mayweather PPVs (pre DLH) with Pacquiao (post DLH) when neither was a massive draw until they faced DLH. Cotto was the draw when he faced Mosley, so when Mayweather/Mosley sells more than Pacquiao/Cotto that will be more evidence that Mayweather is a bigger draw.

I take it you haven't read the question that was originally posted. Who would have more PPV buys Vs. Clottey? Pac or May? Just looking over the History of fights that Mayweather has had against fighters who have NEVER been on a PPV (Baldomir and Judah) Once again Marquez and DLH are Elite PPV fighters...unlike a Clottey.. if you add Marquez ..the cotto fight wins..and if you add DLH.. Oscar was clearly the Bigger draw... No where in the last Several years has Manny not been the bigger draw in a fight even versus De la Hoya..the crowd was Pro- Pacquiao .... i remember the crowd screaming bullsh*t after the floyd vs DLH fight....Prove me wrong with Facts not just foolish statements.:damnit: You're a moron if the crowd came to support Mayweather or not they were still there to watch Mayweather fight. Mayweather's PPVs with Hatton, Marquez, De La Hoya all sold more than Pacquiaos. FACT You said you was comparing similar caliber opponents, you can't get more similar than the same opponents can you?

Cotto is a bigger draw than Marquez. Why not compare Mayweather vs Marquez/De La Hoya against Pacquiao vs Marquez/De La Hoya? Because That proves Mayweather is a bigger draw right? :lol1: Carry on picking and choosing numbers all you want, but it's obvious that Mayweather is a bigger draw. I take it you haven't read the question that was originally posted. Who would have more PPV buys Vs. Clottey? Pac or May? Just looking over the History of fights that Mayweather has had against fighters who have NEVER been on a PPV (Baldomir and Judah) Once again Marquez and DLH are Elite PPV fighters...unlike a Clottey.. if you add Marquez ..the cotto fight wins..and if you add DLH.. Oscar was clearly the Bigger draw... No where in the last Several years has Manny not been the bigger draw in a fight even versus De la Hoya..the crowd was Pro- Pacquiao .... i remember the crowd screaming bullsh*t after the floyd vs DLH fight....Prove me wrong with Facts not just foolish statements.:damnit:

I agree, but Pac fans are willing to accept anything. Because Pac did his best to entertain even lampley helped but clottey decided to just encash his check he thought he can cash some more later on. So how can you blame him?

If it was the fraud and clottey who were in it, after just 2 rounds the people would have been throwing bottles inside the ring and left in disgust. I wouldn't even doubt there's going to be a riot from the viewing public demanding a refund of their tickets. I agree, but Pac fans are willing to accept anything.

If it was the fraud and clottey who were in it, after just 2 rounds the people would have been throwing bottles inside the ring and left in disgust. I wouldn't even doubt there's going to be a riot from the viewing public demanding a refund of their tickets.

i reckon that they would have got it easy......I reckon about 5 million

i reckon that they would have got it easy...... They wouldn't have gotten it easy but they certainly could have gotten due to the promotion machine that is used to promote a floyd or manny fight. Think about it do you think that Pac vs Clottey did that well sbecause Clottey or Pac is that extremely popular? No way, Pac is very popular don't get me wrong but not 51,000 selling out a stadium by himself poplular the way how they promoted the fight ( promised a war, hyped Clottey to be this big welterweight beast), the cowboys stadium itself etc all played the biggest role especially the cowboys stadium. You can look back to the nba allstar game that was held there. This allstar game wasn't different or better than the previous ones, the main factor was 1.2 billion dollars stadium which was the selling point and got them 100,00 people there.

They are not counted because I am comparing Floyd fighting an opponent of Clottey's Caliber... go ahead throw in May vs Marquez (1 mill) then i'll throw in Pac vs Cotto (1.25 mill). Cotto is a bigger draw than Marquez. Why not compare Mayweather vs Marquez/De La Hoya against Pacquiao vs Marquez/De La Hoya? Because That proves Mayweather is a bigger draw right? :lol1: Carry on picking and choosing numbers all you want, but it's obvious that Mayweather is a bigger draw.

"Marquez and De La Hoya not counted" because they prove that Mayweather is a bigger draw. They are not counted because I am comparing Floyd fighting an opponent of Clottey's Caliber... go ahead throw in May vs Marquez (1 mill) then i'll throw in Pac vs Cotto (1.25 mill).

Floyd Vs. Baldomir 350,000 Floyd Vs. Hatton 850,000 Floyd Vs. Judah 350,000 uh let me see....Floyd vs Clottey 500 at the most. Marquez and De La Hoya not counted do to the fact they are well known Elite fighters. Clottey has won one belt and has never been in a PPV fight. Pacquiao > Mayweather "Marquez and De La Hoya not counted" because they prove that Mayweather is a bigger draw.

Pacquiao vs. Clottey's number would blow that fight out of the water because at least people would tune in because Pac is offensive and action packed and people would watch to see if he could knock out Clottey. You would have to be stupid or just love giving away money to give your $49.99 to a Mayweather vs. Clottey fight

Helll No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A fighter in Clottey that doesn't throw any punches, against a fighter in Floyd who doesn't engage. It would be a boring snooze fest decision for Floyd and a waste of money.