How come none of you think this fight will be like JMM vs. Manny Pacquiao? Look at JMM style is almost the same as floyds, Except that Floyd already mastered it or is close to. Don't you guys honestly think it's a tough fight for either opponent? Just look how JMM dominated Pacquiao in some rounds of the fight by his slick counter-punching, Now imagine someone bigger,faster and stronger doing that...
I Got a question for Pac fans too. Why would a man refuse random drug test that if taken allows him to make at least 25 million & be in the biggest fight in history?
says the poster with an avatar of a boxer taking supplements from the founder of BALCO.:439:
I Got a question for Pac fans too. Why would a man refuse random drug test that if taken allows him to make at least 25 million & be in the biggest fight in history?
why the hell do you ask them pac fans a question when obviously you will not going to like their answers? and when they give you an answer you will flare up like a bitch.
I got a question for you Haterfree, Do you think it was fair (Yes he did outclass Kessler in the early rounds) for him to be headbutting so much and on purpose, It was pretty obvious, and not be deducted a point?
I Got a question for Pac fans too. Why would a man refuse random drug test that if taken allows him to make at least 25 million & be in the biggest fight in history?
No of course I know what you mean, But im going off on what i see here every single f*cking day and it's mostly people thinking it's going to be easy. LOL I haven't seen that yet but who the f*ck thinks its going to be easy beating the number one P4P fighter? :rofl: ( Manny being the number one fighter)
you are here everyday and yet you haven't learned your lessons. you can't take everything your read here seriously. everyone's posting behind a bogus name. they can post whatever stupid things they want without risking their personal identity but it doesn't mean that's really what they think/believe. they might just be fooling around or baiting some other fans. actually it's not really hard to discern those kind of post so for you to bring up this kind of thread is kinda stupid. you should know better.
marquez and floyd are 2 different fighters. Marquez would fight fire with fire with combinations. Yes both are counter punchers but floyd is much much more defensive minded and basically throws 1 punch at a time now. Marquez took a beating but dished it out aswell. Floyd would have to do the same and i feel he ain't as durable as marquez. Plus if you can't see the improvement of the Pac now from the marquez fight then you are blind. His right hook is as deadly as his left and his balance is superb now.
A lot bro, a whole ****ing lot. I don't know where you've been but most Pac fans, like myself, give Floyd his due credit as a skilled fighter. Not quite the case with most Floyd fans. He's still one dimensional.
Well at least I haven't seen them, Otherwise I would take Mayweather of my favorite active boxers so I wouldn't even be part of the whole flomo thing :rofl:.
Exactly, But every freaking Pacquiao fan on these boards doesn't seem to acknowledge it. Even the ones that aren't pactards act like if that wouldn't mean anything on how JMM style is a bad match up for Manny and Floyd is better at it.
I am a Pacquiao fan! I acknowledge Floyd has the skills to school Pacquiao! That, in itself, should motivate Floyd to fight Pacquiao!
I just don't understand why he would still demand Pacquiao to do an Olympic type of Drug Testing when he could have done to any other boxer unless HE REALLY BELIEVES (and is accusing) PACQUIAO... IS ON PEDs! Secondly, if he wants to clean up Boxing, why didn't he just begin that with his fight against Oscar?
Levelling the playing field then? That's bull! If Floyd believes in himself and his skills and watching Pacquiao fight Clottey, the playing field is already equal! Floyd would be able to capitalize Pacquiao's weaknesses and defeat Pacquiao WITH or WITHOUT PEDs!
Why would't Floyd do that? Simply because Floyd is afraid that when he fights Pacquiao his "0" has got to go!
Because if I were Floyd with the exceptional boxing skills he has, I WOULD FIGHT PACQUIAO WITHOUT THOSE TESTS!!
I thought he would lose against hoya, has a 60% chance against hatton, a 50/50 chance against cotto and a 90% chance against clottey.
I'm 100% sure that this so called against floyd won't happen and you can bet all your points against me if you disagree. Here's the deal, if ever this fight happens, i'd give all the points you have with you on the fight day, on the other hand, I have no way of winning because you can always say just wait even if it takes forever.
You make solid points, but first of all I think Manny has improved since fighting Marquez. Secondly, JMM can go to war, and take a very good punch, not saying Floyd cant but I have not seen him do it against an opponent like Manny. I think 140 and above is Pac's best weight but there is no doubt Floyd should give him some problems. However, if zab could give Floyd problems for half a fight then I think Manny could give him a lot of problems as well. He will be harder to figure out, has much better mental toughness, and I think the best stamina in the sport, plus he is a south paw with an unconventional style .
Oh definetly, Manny is a beast over 140. I think he's at the best shape in his career, Also a much better fighter now than back when he was in featherweight. The only problem is yeah, We don't seriously know if Floyd can go to war against a top fighter and also a powerful one like Manny.Yeah but since the Zab Judah fight, Floyd has grown more.. Also it can be said for Manny since the JMM since now he has his right hand and more skills in everything...Oh well it's a toss up i'll say that much.
big difference in balls department mainly.........jmm is willin to take one just to give one,better combos than floyd too....when was the last time you seen jmm run?...........lol
It's not balls, It's heart. I honestly think that PBF will give it his all after all the sh*t he's talked and it's the biggest fight for either fighter. The only thing that hasn't really been tested is his chin. I think if he proves that he can take Mosleys power and break him down, That he will give manny a hard time. Floyd doesn't run btw.
You make solid points, but first of all I think Manny has improved since fighting Marquez. Secondly, JMM can go to war, and take a very good punch, not saying Floyd cant but I have not seen him do it against an opponent like Manny. I think 140 and above is Pac's best weight but there is no doubt Floyd should give him some problems. However, if zab could give Floyd problems for half a fight then I think Manny could give him a lot of problems as well. He will be harder to figure out, has much better mental toughness, and I think the best stamina in the sport, plus he is a south paw with an unconventional style .
Not everyone bro, you keep genralizing they might be a few. And, some just do it to troll and bait posters in. But, the most that I have talk to know this would be the toughest fight of Pac career. But, the majority of Pac fans like myself give Pac a chance of winning. It woud not be an easy win for Floyd. But, some of Floyd fans on the other hand believe it would be a cake walk. So you should really not be asking Pac fans but ask Floyd why do they think is that Pac has zero chance. When that is really bullshit.
No of course I know what you mean, But im going off on what i see here every single f*cking day and it's mostly people thinking it's going to be easy. LOL I haven't seen that yet but who the f*ck thinks its going to be easy beating the number one P4P fighter? :rofl: ( Manny being the number one fighter)
Well of course they are different, JMM mixes it up at times and brawls. Floyd picks his shots (Potshots) and backs off. He only trades when he knows he will land. The point is that Manny isn't used to a counter punchers style, So why in the hell do people think it's going to be such an easy fight?
Exactly, But every freaking Pacquiao fan on these boards doesn't seem to acknowledge it. Even the ones that aren't pactards act like if that wouldn't mean anything on how JMM style is a bad match up for Manny and Floyd is better at it.
Not everyone bro, you keep genralizing they might be a few. And, some just do it to troll and bait posters in. But, the most that I have talk to know this would be the toughest fight of Pac career. But, the majority of Pac fans like myself give Pac a chance of winning. It woud not be an easy win for Floyd. But, some of Floyd fans on the other hand believe it would be a cake walk. So you should really not be asking Pac fans but ask Floyd why do they think is that Pac has zero chance. When that is really bullshit.
This "PBF is an enhanced JMM" talk is rubbish. Both are counterpunchers, but that's all. They do not fight the same. JMM countered in spots and attacked in spots. He was willing to go into the eye of the hurricane to get his licks in. When hurt, he would fire back. He has a higher workrate than PBF. He jabs more than PBF. He's not as patient. PBF is better than JMM, but not simply better as in doing exactly what JMM does a little better. He's a different kind of style matchup for Pac.
Exactly, But every freaking Pacquiao fan on these boards doesn't seem to acknowledge it. Even the ones that aren't pactards act like if that wouldn't mean anything on how JMM style is a bad match up for Manny and Floyd is better at it.