Why should the #1 P4P fighter of the decade bend to the will of someone who is notorious for ducking tough competition? There are systems and commissions in place to make the rules and Floyd isn't a part of that. You don't think Roach and Manny see this for what it is? Its posturing and fear, nothing more. Answer the question or don't reply at all. Thanks.
didn't roach say when floyd first ask for the blood test that they found it funny and didn't care about takin any blood test?so what happened?why is it a problem now? i thought they didn't care?
Why should the #1 P4P fighter of the decade bend to the will of someone who is notorious for ducking tough competition? There are systems and commissions in place to make the rules and Floyd isn't a part of that. You don't think Roach and Manny see this for what it is? Its posturing and fear, nothing more. Answer the question or don't reply at all. Thanks.
you are right about the commissions being there to enforce the rules but if you are taking that stance on the subject dont you feel that cotto should have been allowed to defend his 147lb title at 147lbs instead of 145lbs? by the way im not a mayweather fan either but its not like hes asking for something that would be bad for the sport, in fact its not even the first time strict blood tests have been requested. i find it hard to believe that so many people have a problem with cleaning up the sport and possibly eliminating steroid use all together in boxing, especially with all the hate threads about cheaters i read on this forum.
Didn't Pac just duck Mosley, Foreman and blood test? So who is really the ducker here? Asking for 10 million per pound and weight draining is a commision rule? Didn't Floyd beat the same three fighters(delahoya,marquez,hatton) your boy Pac beat? Didn't Floyd agree to Pacs terms? Didn't Roach say Mosley was too good and Pacquiao said Foreman was too tall to fight? Is Mosley Floyd's next fight? Stop the B.S threads and tell your GOD Pacquiao to take the random blood test or shut the **** up pactard.
you mad? read my sig. lol
this is as far as i got before i threw up in my hand! You cant stay on top by fighting the soft opposition hes fought to get there. He had his chance and chose to duck into retirement until the badasses cleaned up the division. Not expecting a force like Manny Pacquiao to come in and take over. Meanwhile while waiting on a soft opponent with a fan base...his only option to return was A blown up hungry JMM, That in Floyds words,"has a country behind him"...hence the reason why he didnt want #1WW at the time Mosley! Hes a bag of shity excuses and anyone whop cannot see this is as dumb as he his.
Or as your post...so have a nice day.:haha:
Floyd fighting soft opposition,eh? I suppose you are going to believe that Manny has been fighting the best and not picking fighters based on their styles...
Pac will never bow down to floyd's demand especially because of how those scumbags went about it. I just don't see it and pac can do what the **** he wants his legacy won't be tarnished like some people here say so.
manny will have to takew the tests even though he aint fighting floyd. the rule book has been changed and floyd DID IT!!!
How funny would it be if manny pissed hot against valero or margarito. hahahahahaaaaaaaa :owned: :owned: :owned: :owned:
oh yea but they spotted RJJ, Toney, Vit klitchko, Vargas, etc using. im sure there are more. Yet all you dumbasses say " oh mosley got away with it pac must be using!!! ".
Look TARD the current setup is not 100 proof. Mayweather-Pac = the biggest fight in boxing history.
Pac needs to stop bullshitting his fans, the public and Floyd Mayweather.
If you're clean then you have nothing to hide. Take the test and whip "Gayweather's" ass. LOL!
I think Team Pac fully realizes that they're not ready for Floyd, especially when they saw how EASILY Floyd dismantled JMM.
this is as far as i got before i threw up in my hand! You cant stay on top by fighting the soft opposition hes fought to get there. He had his chance and chose to duck into retirement until the badasses cleaned up the division. Not expecting a force like Manny Pacquiao to come in and take over. Meanwhile while waiting on a soft opponent with a fan base...his only option to return was A blown up hungry JMM, That in Floyds words,"has a country behind him"...hence the reason why he didnt want #1WW at the time Mosley! Hes a bag of shity excuses and anyone whop cannot see this is as dumb as he his.
Or as your post...so have a nice day.:haha:
He's fighting SSN now?!, JMM was a tune up and a statement to PAC...Lame.
Why should the #1 P4P fighter of the decade bend to the will of someone who is notorious for ducking tough competition? There are systems and commissions in place to make the rules and Floyd isn't a part of that. You don't think Roach and Manny see this for what it is? Its posturing and fear, nothing more. Answer the question or don't reply at all. Thanks.
Posturing and fear? If that were the case then Manny and Roach would call Floyd's bluff and accept the terms, then we'll see what excuse Floyd comes up with next.
Why should the #1 P4P fighter of the decade bend to the will of someone who is notorious for ducking tough competition? There are systems and commissions in place to make the rules and Floyd isn't a part of that. You don't think Roach and Manny see this for what it is? Its posturing and fear, nothing more. Answer the question or don't reply at all. Thanks.
Didn't Pac just duck Mosley, Foreman and blood test? So who is really the ducker here? Asking for 10 million per pound and weight draining is a commision rule? Didn't Floyd beat the same three fighters(delahoya,marquez,hatton) your boy Pac beat? Didn't Floyd agree to Pacs terms? Didn't Roach say Mosley was too good and Pacquiao said Foreman was too tall to fight? Is Mosley Floyd's next fight? Stop the B.S threads and tell your GOD Pacquiao to take the random blood test or shut the **** up pactard.
You know what is very interesting? Pac supporters talking about how crass, rude, and bitchy Floyd is. Pac himself, of course, is very humble and gracious, and polite. So why are Pac fans representing themselves as such rude little bitches? Was I rude?
Even Freddie Roach said Marquez would be a "good fight" for Floyd before the fight, and then, post-fight, went on about how 'Marquez is a lightweight'. Floyd fought De La Hoya and Hatton, perhaps not at their best, but better then when Pac got them. This is fact. It is not impressive to beat up people who are weight drained and unhealthy, or, in the case of Clottey, a walking tree that does not hit you. Now, let me stress, I am not trying to diminish Pac's skills... he did what he had to do. But this whole thing about how he is cleaning out the division when Floyd has not is ridiculous. Even Cotto is damaged good, due to a cheater.
But you know, I want to go back to my first point in this post. Pac fans are proving themselves to be increasingly unclassy little bullys. I would bet real money, and I will, that none of them would dare act this way in real life. Do you represent Pac and his greatness by being a cunt?
Pac will never bow down to floyd's demand especially because of how those scumbags went about it. I just don't see it and pac can do what the **** he wants his legacy won't be tarnished like some people here say so. I don't give a shit anymore I'm looking forward to the floyd-mosley fight and hope mosley wins maybe we can see pacquiao-mosley. Mayweather-Pacquiao ain't happening.
get ready FOR how dum you are. R U READY TO READ HOW DUM YOU ARE? first of all Pacs name is tarnished, its DONE CANT BE CHANGED.
GUESS WHAT DUM FUKK??? THERE IS A REMATCH CLAUSE IF SHANE BEATS FLOYD!!! THAT MEANS IF SHANE WINS, WE WILL SEE MOSLEY VS MAYWEATHER II. GET A FEKKIN EDUCATION, LEARN TO READ, READ A BOOK.........HOOKED ON PHONICS. MANG O MANG U GUYS ARE THE LOWEST COMMON DENOMINATOR OF STOOOOOOOPID.
i would make an argument that Manny is only the p4p "greatest fighter" because Floyd retired. if he had not, he'd still be #2 until he beat Floyd.
the object of this sport, regardless of what you or I feel, is to sell tickets. it's prize-fighting. if Manny and his team want the most money and prestige, and they do, tell me why they would pick Clottey and $6 Million over Floyd- who they claim they can easily beat- and $25 Million. It defies logic. both sides have demands. if Pac is drug free, then not only does he have nothing to hide, but he defeats Floyd automatically on a HUGE level by making the Mayweather clan look foolish, frightened, and ridiculous.. and himself even MORE impressive.
but he won't do it. now, we've already officially gotten several "official" answers- some of them were even later *contradicted*- needles, blood, etc.- but what this really comes down to is ego. Arum wants to screw Oscar and Floyd, most of all. you'd think they could give Floyd this one concession if it really is about "ego", if they were so sure they'd beat him in a fight. stop being biased and consider it. i'm not being biased. i think it is suspicious, and putting ego and pride above whats best for their careers, legacy, fans, and the sport. so yeah- Manny- who is free of hGh or whatever it is- should take the f**king tests.
this is as far as i got before i threw up in my hand! You cant stay on top by fighting the soft opposition hes fought to get there. He had his chance and chose to duck into retirement until the badasses cleaned up the division. Not expecting a force like Manny Pacquiao to come in and take over. Meanwhile while waiting on a soft opponent with a fan base...his only option to return was A blown up hungry JMM, That in Floyds words,"has a country behind him"...hence the reason why he didnt want #1WW at the time Mosley! Hes a bag of shity excuses and anyone whop cannot see this is as dumb as he his.
Or as your post...so have a nice day.:haha:
The systems and commissions that are in place didn't spot Shane Mosley's HGH usage, now did they????
Pacman is not the #1 p4p of the decade. LOL!
oh yea but they spotted RJJ, Toney, Vit klitchko, Vargas, etc using. im sure there are more. Yet all you dumbasses say " oh mosley got away with it pac must be using!!! ".
Pac will never bow down to floyd's demand especially because of how those scumbags went about it. I just don't see it and pac can do what the **** he wants his legacy won't be tarnished like some people here say so. I don't give a shit anymore I'm looking forward to the floyd-mosley fight and hope mosley wins maybe we can see pacquiao-mosley. Mayweather-Pacquiao ain't happening.
Why should the #1 P4P fighter of the decade bend to the will of someone who is notorious for ducking tough competition? There are systems and commissions in place to make the rules and Floyd isn't a part of that. You don't think Roach and Manny see this for what it is? Its posturing and fear, nothing more. Answer the question or don't reply at all. Thanks.
the system, the current system doesnt work. if it doesnt work a new system should be instated. regardless if u like floyd or hate him, he has made a change to the sport and u have to accept that. HE MADE A CHANGE!!! YES HE IS A PART OF IT!!! pac is scared if he wasnt he would have asked for 10 million per pound which is like a new rule is it not? name one fight in history that a fighter made another fighter potentially liable for coming over weight and have to pay 10 million per pound?????
why do they get to make that rule up? nobody gave a shIt and floyd agreed to it DIDNT EVEN COMPLAIN!!! WHOS THE BITCH NOW?
I don't know......40 millions dollars.
Don't really care though Manny can do what he wants.
If he doesn't wanna do a couple tests and make the biggest payday of career that's his prerogative.
I actually don't think he's cheating.
But why not eliminate all doubt from haters and fans alike and do the dumb tests.
I just have a thought........
Perhaps this is one big conspiracy by Mayweather/Pacquiao camp/ Top rank/GBP. to make their future fight even bigger than it was.With more drama,accusations,lawsuit etc.etc.
Then they will make off with even 100 million each in the end.
And we will be on the sideline wanting another fight because they ended in a DRAW!!! and we want more,more...:twak: somebody wake me up!!!
another gay ass thread. guess what floyd haters, take a guess. if you keep talkin bout floyd all the time, ur kind of like a fan. dont u get it? like howard stern made 10's of millions of dollars because the people that hated him still listened to what he would say next, in essence they were a fan because they gave stern ratings. cant u dummies see ur his greatest fans?
Why should the #1 P4P fighter of the decade bend to the will of someone who is notorious for ducking tough competition? There are systems and commissions in place to make the rules and Floyd isn't a part of that. You don't think Roach and Manny see this for what it is? Its posturing and fear, nothing more. Answer the question or don't reply at all. Thanks.
The systems and commissions that are in place didn't spot Shane Mosley's HGH usage, now did they????
Pacman is not the #1 p4p of the decade. LOL!
Why should the #1 P4P fighter of the decade bend to the will of someone who is notorious for ducking tough competition? There are systems and commissions in place to make the rules and Floyd isn't a part of that. You don't think Roach and Manny see this for what it is? Its posturing and fear, nothing more. Answer the question or don't reply at all. Thanks.
I don't know......40 millions dollars.
Don't really care though Manny can do what he wants.
If he doesn't wanna do a couple tests and make the biggest payday of career that's his prerogative.
I actually don't think he's cheating.
But why not eliminate all doubt from haters and fans alike and do the dumb tests.