Many people think that Mosley is the #1 WW out there. Also if Mayweather beats him he will be the #1WW.
Mosley beat Margarito in January of 2009...He hasnt done NOTHING at all since then. You just don't get to stay #1 if you don't fight!!!
Manny has beat Cotto and Clottey at WW in the time Mosley has laid off. Not to mention Hatton (at 140 i know is not WW) but hes fought three times in the time Mosley has been inactive.
Mayweather has fought JMM (lol) a blown up LW after beating Hatton A blown up LWW in 07!!!
Meanwhile...If Floyd wants #1...he knows where its at. Come and get it!
pactards will never get it. do you see floyd fans sweating everything pac does? no? why is that? because were not fans. if you hate on floyd enough you become his fan. like howard sterrn made millions upon millions cuz his haters gave him ratings.........they gave him ratings!!!! HIS HATERS ARE HIS FANS!!! DONT U GET IT YOU DUM FUKKKS?
People can debate that Pacquiao doesn't lose P4P #1 unless he loses(Which I agree with), but Mosley actually beat Margarito who was #1 and that was for a title, not someone's opinion.
If anything I think Pacquiao is the #2 WW, even taking into consideration Mosley's inactivity
pac and mayweather may well be better than mosley, but until he is beat then he is still the number 1 welterweight. the man that beat the man and all that.
but real talk pacman shouldve have been there after one ww fight. Top it off he didn't fight shane. That's like shane or floyd jumping pac after this fight.
So what your saying is ...You MUST come in at 147 not a pound under?
well
the catchweight was made prior to it being a title fight correct?
so Cotto was obligated to weigh 145 for his fight with Manny per his contract
after that had been agreed upon only then did Manny ask that Cotto's title be on the line. Once the WBO forced Cotto to defend his belt or be stipped
page 6 of the WBO handbook states that a welterweight title is up to 147lbs
Cotto was not able to utilize that rule in the WBO's handbook
key phrase is up to. The WBO went in direct violation of it's own handbook to make the sanctioning fees on it being a title fight despite Cotto's objections.
yea theres no use because you're a idiot. most welterweights come in around 146 or 147 because they are use to the weight and have been fighting there for years. it effects the mind to lose a pound or 2
I feel bad for you! you need a puppy!
then why make the fight at 145?
aahhhh because its call a cacthweight and its been done in the early years of boxing by the late greats of the sport!
not for a WBO title fight it isn't
So what your saying is ...You MUST come in at 147 not a pound under?
what did pacquiao do that mosley couldn't?
answer: beat cotto
i can play this game too.
Wasnt exactly a crushing win now was it, in fact it was bloody close and I felt Mosley boxed bloody well....
Mosley lost to Cotto
Cotto wouldn't have lost withouth Bricks against Margarito
Clottey actually won against Cotto.
You got 1 cheater and 2 guys who got beat by Pacman and Mosley lost to one of them.
Real talk.
#ww1 could be Pacman and no one else. Margaritos claim to #1ww is cheating and nothing else.
No, Clottey did NOT win against Cotto. The last 2 rounds, Clottey did not do enough to take the last 2 rounds, while Cotto was swingin' away, and belted clottey but good with a perfect left hook to end the 12th round. He lost. And with one eye for most of the fight.
Clottey is always bitchin' about getting robbed. The truth is he screws himself out of potential wins, then whines about it after. He was literally scared to take a shot in the face by Pac. Clottey was scared! Some blood and gutz warrior. I lost any respect i had for him in his Pac fight.
you're a MORON. margo never got caught using them against cotto. so how could we say that it is a fact he used them against cotto? we are talking about the COTTO FIGHT.
manny and his camp got caught in LIES.
never said he got caught with Cotto. You got lost. If was cheating he didnt just start...especially being the plaster had existing blood on them at the Mosley fight. WOW you need to get with it. This your first time. Im done with you. Have a Nice Day!
When Margarito beat Cotto, Margarito was considered to be the No. 1 guy at 147. Mosley beating Margarito makes him the Champ at 147. Manny's fight with Oscar doesn't really help him because Oscar wasn't a ranked welterweight. He has wins over 1 top welter IMO. Clottey IMO, became a gatekeeper after the Cotto loss.
The only reason Manny fought Clottey is because Bob Arum is still bitter about Floyd leaving Top Rank. They probably already had Clottey in place as an opponent during the negotiations with Golden Boy.
what do Clottey and Cotto have in common?
answer: losing to Margarito.
what did Mosley do to Margarito?
answer: knocked him out.
Frazier beat Ali
Foreman beat Frazier
Therefore Foreman will beat Ali.
or, how about this:
Jose Luis Castillo gave Mayweather all he could handle
Gomez beat Castillo
Therefore Gomez would be a tough opponent for Mayweather
JMM at 147 vs PAC wont get passed the first round..
Pac will destroy JMM right now..
Pac is the #1 WW..
Floyd shouldnt even be ranked at WW.. When was the last time he fought a true WW???
i think 2006 against Carlos Baldomir . Now thats funny!!!! :lol1:
the same JMM who fought mayweather would give manny all sorts of trouble. manny would get countered into infinity LOL of course the way mayweather beat the guy who PAC had so much trouble with was impressive.
MOSLEY IS THE NUMBER ONE WELTERWEIGHT.
pac has only fought one welterweight at the welterweight limit LOL.. most welterweights come in at 146 or 147. cotto was forced to come in at 145.
oscar weight drained at 145.
clottey is his first full welterweight.
mosley has been fighting 147 pound fighters for YEAAAAARS.
fought a PRIME cotto in a close fight and was never knocked down. (clottey was put on his butt against a shot cotto lol)
he fought collazo and beat him.
he knocked out margarito.
NUMBER ONE WELTERWEIGHT.
mosley.
JMM at 147 vs PAC wont get passed the first round..
Pac will destroy JMM right now..
Pac is the #1 WW..
Floyd shouldnt even be ranked at WW.. When was the last time he fought a true WW???
the same JMM who fought mayweather would give manny all sorts of trouble. manny would get countered into infinity LOL of course the way mayweather beat the guy who PAC had so much trouble with was impressive.
MOSLEY IS THE NUMBER ONE WELTERWEIGHT.
pac has only fought one welterweight at the welterweight limit LOL.. most welterweights come in at 146 or 147. cotto was forced to come in at 145.
oscar weight drained at 145.
clottey is his first full welterweight.
mosley has been fighting 147 pound fighters for YEAAAAARS.
fought a PRIME cotto in a close fight and was never knocked down. (clottey was put on his butt against a shot cotto lol)
he fought collazo and beat him.
he knocked out margarito.
NUMBER ONE WELTERWEIGHT.
mosley.
you do know the WW limit is 141-147...ahhhh never mind there's no use
I agree. I had no problem with it before, but it was close. Now I think Pacquiao is. Mosley is still a top ranked contender and really good though just to be noted. Something else to note, since Pacquiao is ranked #1 and had fought 3 fights there, he's officially a WW now.
Mosely beat a Margarito without plaster and was ready made for him as all fans say, including Flomos.
He has been inactive since and is old at 38.
Pac beat Dela Hoya at 147, it means hardly anything perhaps because Pac is above that level.
He beat Cotto at 145, which is still Welter weight. Cotto weighed in at 146 for Clottey and looked good at 145 to me. 147 or 145, now I know Pac handles him again at whatever weight. Not the same fighter in maybe Mosely, but still a tough test for anyone coming up.
At 147, Clottey is a big, tough MOFO. Held his own VS Marg and Cotto.
He has fought two tough welter weights in 2009 and 2010.
Mosely has fought Margarito in Jan 2009. He beat Mayorga at 154 with a good punch at the end in a close fight, and lost to Cotto at 147 in a close fight. He is still a damn good fighter, but right now, without even being a Pactard, Pac has to be the number 1 welter for me.
Whether he got hit with 3 uppercuts (When he was basically toying with Clottey in the 11th, watch it in slow mo) and the straight right (When he squared up with a gaurd to get Clottey to throw), he won every round or lost 2 if you are generous for Clottey. I thought it would be closer.