Why should Pac worries for Floyds Counter punches????
Pac eats Cotto's best shots. Cotto>Fraud jr in terms of power.
Pac will walk through Fraud jr's counter baby-puches then when the time Pac landed a single clean shot(left-hook) on Fraud Jr's pa-cute face...Floyd will wake-up on Cloud 9.:damnit:
i see a dragonball style fighting from round 1 - 4 but after that PBF cant handle the pressure anymore. He cant counter anymore, he cant potshot anymore, all he can do is run or call ROger Mayweather to choke Pac just like what they did to ZAB Judah.
that counter-puching proof of winning is a SHIT!
I don't find the counter punch comparison between JMM and Floyd holding much weight as reason for why Floyd beats Manny, it certainly is a blueprint for him but not a definitive reason to why he will beat him.
JMM was so effective because he was prepared to stand there and trade at every exchange, Floyd wont be, most of the time he tries to deflect shots away with his shoulder rolling which although is and looks impressive, doing it against the best offensive fighter in the sport and not getting caught is another story. He also waits for fighters too gas out, Manny won't, he is relentless.
Counter punches don't have to be powerful to be effective.
Bingo...they have to sharp, fast, perfectly timed punches. Which Floyd is the master at.
Agreed.
The danger doesn't sit in the power of the shots Pac will be taking at all, if that was the case, he would have nothing to worry about. But, when Cotto and co were hitting him, it was often the case that he was asking to be hit... he was begging Clottey to hit him, he stood on the ropes and allowed Cotto to bang away, in short, he knew when they were coming. Floyd, however, will be looking to catch him off guard, when his balance is off center, when he's stepping in, in the middle of flurries, the accurate fast shots will be more likely to hurt Manny because he won't see them coming as easily, and Floyd is more likely to drop Pac due to his speed and his ability to catch Pac when he's throwing, or when he's just thrown and isn't on balance.
If Floyd's counterpunches can't hurt Manny, he's doomed.
End of story.
Hatton took a lot of floyds counter punches.They finally caught up with him and he was knocked out.But pacquiao gets wild when he throws though so their is many openings.
Why should he worry?
Because the last time he fought a great counter puncher, he was nearly beaten.
Floyd is faster and more accurate than JMM, so expect him to have even more problems.
Anyone that uses the Cotto and Clottey fights as a marker for how Floyd will do against Pac don't know much.
I still don't get why people think floyd will just be able to counter and move away. Yeah he'll get his counters in but he's not gonna slip/block/bob and weave out of every punch pac throws. If pac can cut off the ring he'll force pbf to have to fight back
They think that because he has been doing that his whole career irrespective of who the opponent was. He mastered his style and he make fighters fight his fight. Trust me, if Manny ever fights Floyd..u will not see him just running in there gung ho..Freddie Roach knows better...Everybody that has stepped in the ring with Mayweather end up saying the same thing..and that is he has a difficult style to deal with.
I repeat. Floyd through 46 punches a round in that fight. He's not a combo puncher anymore, he fights safe.
He'll lose throwing 46 punches per round no matter how many counters he throws.
Marquez is a big joke at Welterweight. Clottey would have ate his lunch.
46 punches times 12 rounds give u what? 552 punches thrown. Floyd is usually 40% accurate so that would leave u with a 220.8 connect rate. Now that looks good going up against a guy that just threw 1100+ punches and only landed between 200-240 punches with a 20% connect rate. I don't think Floyd is losing any sleep over that. Boxing is won on skills not on how popular u are at the moment.
I still don't get why people think floyd will just be able to counter and move away. Yeah he'll get his counters in but he's not gonna slip/block/bob and weave out of every punch pac throws. If pac can cut off the ring he'll force pbf to have to fight back
The great clincher Hatton couldn't do it...why do you think May can? Floyd can move, duck and weave all night long from Pac's barrage of punches....he will get tired at the last few rounds. This is why Clottey did not bother and stayed stationary.
So basically Floyd fights like Clottey. Ah okay. Fail troll.
You can't us the logic that Pacquiao took Cotto's best shots so Mayweather won't be able to do anything to him. Mayweather is still one of the most accurate fighters in the sport, much moreso than Cotto. However, between watching Floyd's fights and WW and now Pacquiao's at WW, I definitely think Pacquiao has the edge in speed. Mayweather's speed at LW is comparable to Pacquiao's currently but his accuracy back then far surpasses Pacquiao's any day. Manny is a slippery little guy though and I'd be curious to see how accurate Floyd could be against him.
Why should Pac worries for Floyds Counter punches????
Pac eats Cotto's best shots. Cotto>Fraud jr in terms of power.
Pac will walk through Fraud jr's counter baby-puches then when the time Pac landed a single clean shot(left-hook) on Fraud Jr's pa-cute face...Floyd will wake-up on Cloud 9.:damnit:
i see a dragonball style fighting from round 1 - 4 but after that PBF cant handle the pressure anymore. He cant counter anymore, he cant potshot anymore, all he can do is run or call ROger Mayweather to choke Pac just like what they did to ZAB Judah.
that counter-puching proof of winning is a SHIT!
mad props that was some funny shit about roger lol
Cotto hit him 1 punch here 1 there Floyd will counter off of pac s aggresion which will slo him down cuz he'll be gettin hit clean everytime he gets wild and that's all fight
see what you are doin here is not discussing actual boxing, your talkin about how you think things are. go watch some tape and stop talking about chicken mode. i have never seen floyd run in a fight. understand the meaning of running before you come with that nonsense
IDIOT!
just like i said PBFfights diffrently now unlike in lighter divisions. He learned the chicken-mode technique while fighting DLH.
Can u pls stop using alts?? lol Flomos are idiots really!
floyd will probably mostly jab at first and run but eventually pac will figure him out and set some unexpected shot's at floyd's face that will kd and eventually ko him early
Pac punch accurately even on diffrent angles.
If Pac landed a clean shot on PBF face, can he counter??? NO, he wont coz he will be on defensive mode or chicken mode. PBF wont take the risk. PBF wont let himself to be KO by a smaller opponent. For PBF it doesnt matter what fans wud say if he runs all night, what important is his payday.
Fraud jr fight diffrent in welterweight unlike in featherweights ang lghtweights. PBF cant handle power from an elite welterweight thats why he learn to run and do the chicken thing so how can this man win to a machine like Pacquiao who take the risk everytime he fights to satisfy his fans.
Cotto never hit him cleanly, right on the button. PBF's punches are accurate and the most techniqual in the world of boxing. Ask Hatton.......:footinmou
man, i really think some of you dont watch boxing. counter punches are considered the most deadly because they catch you when you are off balance and you dont see them coming. they hit you and they stun you. manny has a hard time with counter punchers and unlike clottey, floyd doesnt need to swithc between offense and defense, it's almost automatic for him. one minute he's defensive and the next hes throwing a counter punch.
i see you guys kno very well how manny fights, y not go watch some floyd fights so that you can get a better understanding of what he can do. then you wont be so overly confident in manny destroying him.
They dont understand boxing. Simple.
How in goods name can you compare Clottey standing in one spot covered up to this?
Also Clottey is NOT a counter puncher. Floyd IS. Clottey waits til the opponent stops punching to throw. Floyd throws during and miliseconds AFTER BIG difference.
I repeat. Floyd through 46 punches a round in that fight. He's not a combo puncher anymore, he fights safe.
He'll lose throwing 46 punches per round no matter how many counters he throws.
Marquez is a big joke at Welterweight. Clottey would have ate his lunch.
Before Clottey I didn't think Pac could handle Floyd's defense, now I know he can handle it. Pac UD Mayweather in my honest opinion after seeing the Clottey defense fight.
Mayweather threw something like 46 punches per round against Marquez. Remember that.
How in goods name can you compare Clottey standing in one spot covered up to this?
Also Clottey is NOT a counter puncher. Floyd IS. Clottey waits til the opponent stops punching to throw. Floyd throws during and miliseconds AFTER BIG difference.
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