In that, he barely got tagged...meanwhile we've seen Fraud stumble around either off balance or not here and there in his fights. Judah caught Fraud with a quick hook...Hatton made Fraud stumble back. You can't be that sloppy or have 1 defense lapse against Pac. I honestly believe Clottey has better D than Fraud in that the way he covers his head and body altogether is way better than Fraud trying to slip punches while his head is still exposed. You saw how Pac was throwing to the sides of Clottey's head? Imagine that moreso on Fraud who doesn't even defense his head completely. Pac will get to it so much easier than Clottey it ain't even funny. If Fraud makes it 12 rounds I WILL BE IMPRESSED.
Anyone that thinks Floyd's style is being a "chicken"
"Doesn't know shit about boxing"
........ "don't know shit about boxing" letting posters know they don't know shit est. since 2010
i feel you man i need to find a boxing site with less clueless posters i mean this site like every site has its fair share but lately its gone through the roof on here its not even funny
anyone who has an ounce of boxing knowledge can see clottey is not on floyds level
While Clottey's D is airtight and hardly ever gets caught, it restricts his offense and overall effectiveness. Standing there covering up and not throwing anything back will not win you fights.
Floyd on the other hand uses movement, shoulder rolls to slip punches and fire back right away. His defense allows him to set up own counters, he's never a sitting duck for long periods of time because of this, which is what Clottey is a victim of.
Floyd's D is never a liability unlike Clottey's as far as winning fights.
Floyd's movement alone will reduce Pac's punch output, it will be competitive fight if they ever get it on.
Green k. Post's like this give me hope that all is not lost on NSB. Threadstarter, make a public poll. It would clear up a lot of things as to who actually understands the sport, and who.... doesn't.
ElPacman has officially lost it...dude has become a straight moron like the rest of them..
Clottey's defense better than Mayweathers?..WOW!..if you're trolling for points cool..but there's a trend with the Pacquiao fans they become dumber by the fight..
LOL @ at Manny fans that rate Clottey as a A- fighter with a defense better than Mayweather.
Bob Arum says he's an A contender and a worthy opponent who's big and strong and is capable of putting on a much more exciting fight than Floyd. He wouldn't lie would he?
Oh wait. Maybe that gold digging piece of shit did lie.
At least some people in this thread bought that shit.
lol @ posters who have been banned at least once from this forum accusing reputable posters who have never been banned ... of "trolling".
denial and self-projection at it's finest, the same characteristic floyd has.
Why is he reputable? Because he's a Pacquiao nut hugger? Come on man. Anybody who thinks Clottey's D is even COMPARABLE to Floyd's is delusional and not a reputable poster, but a delusional Pacquiao fan who wants to glorify every opponent he faces, regardless of how inferior they are because they love him so much.
When he fights a GOOD welterweight, then I'll give a shit. Mosley or Mayweather.
lol @ posters who have been banned at least once from this forum accusing reputable posters who have never been banned ... of "trolling".
denial and self-projection at it's finest, the same characteristic floyd has.
I don't care how reputable a person is. Pullcounter been here since 04 and he trolls...ALOT.
LOL @ at Manny fans that rate Clottey as a A- fighter with a defense better than Mayweather. Yes, you are trolling and the TS. Stop being so delusional. I see why people say that certain Manny fans don't know about boxing.
lol Pac wins every round and you want to say Clottey has better defense than FLOYD. Floyd never gets hit!
Even though Pac landed maybe 10 real shots the entire fight, he still got punched. Looked like a heavy bag in there.
Clotteys defense isn't good because he can't counter punch.
His defense is totally flawed compared to Floyds.
Clottey comes at you, totally guarded and leans back. You can't put anything behind a punch, or get it off quickly, when you're leaning slightly back. Almost everytime Clottey opened up to throw a punch, Manny picked it up immediately and snuck a punch in.
Floyd will make you come to him dodge your punches, and hit you. The guys defense is almost impossible to hit.
I hate Floyds fighting style because it's boring, and to be honest I only watch him to see him lose, but come on with this shit.
Clottey isn't on the level of any top contenders. That fight was straight up pitiful and as boring as Floyd is, he makes every fight look like fight of the year compared to that shit.
Clottey has a tight guard, but he gets hit.
Floyd has the best defense because not only is it hard to get through, it's hard to even hit his gloves.
Only the very fastest can hit him, and with angles. That's why I feel Pac has a good chance to beat Floyd, and only Pac. Floyd isn't the same fighter when he fought Judah, but there were signs that a south paw with speed can evade his shoulder roll. Whether it can be done for 12 rounds, who knows but Pac's physically a ebast like Floyd and can outwork him on rounds.
Trolling at its finest. Rather you like Mayweather or not, he will go down as one of the BEST defensive fighters EVER. Clottey will never been mentioned with the likes of Ali and Sweet Pea as far as defense is concerned. You dudes are silly with that.
I think he might, however I think Floyd's is more effective for counter punching, against Manny I think Clottey's may be better, hopefully we will get to find out.
It's stupid shit like this that makes me wanna see Floyd beat Pacquiao and a lot of people will know that i'm no Floyd fan and have critisised him a lot in the past. Many Pacquiao fans, with their comments on these forums, make it pretty well known that they're not really fans of Boxing, they just like one fighter.
Stop this nonsense flomos tell Flyod to man up and fight Pac with no silly testing requirement of his own. If you guys think Flyod is that good fight Pac.
The whole world wants to see Pac vs Flyod !!!
While Clottey's D is airtight and hardly ever gets caught, it restricts his offense and overall effectiveness. Standing there covering up and not throwing anything back will not win you fights.
Floyd on the other hand uses movement, shoulder rolls to slip punches and fire back right away. His defense allows him to set up own counters, he's never a sitting duck for long periods of time because of this, which is what Clottey is a victim of.
Floyd's D is never a liability unlike Clottey's as far as winning fights.
Floyd's movement alone will reduce Pac's punch output, it will be competitive fight if they ever get it on.
Excellent post!!!! :fing02:
Get some new material, prick! Who the hell are you to tell people who you don't even know and have no clue about that they don't know shit about boxing, just because you disagree with their opinion?
Anyone who does this is a sad sack of shit.
There's a difference between opinion and comments that let's me know people don't know shit about boxing... like the thread earlier that said,
"now we know what pacquiao can do against a defensive fighter, floyd has not chance" = DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT BOXING
I respect opinion but I won't respect dumb shit... So why don't you "respect my opinion" that I should let people know they don't shit about boxing and if you dont like it ... you can go e*t a dick f*gget!
El, come on now. You know thats not true. Even alot of haterz think Floyd is one of the best defensive fighters of all time. Clottey isnt. The other reason why Floyd has much better D than Clottey, Toney, Winky, and whoever is because they have the same D all day every day but Floyd can switch any time he wants. Infact, he uses the Clottey D in some fights and does it better than Clottey. He's not all shoulder roll. He also blocks, slips, and has better reflexes. Come on El, I know you dont really mean this
While Clottey's D is airtight and hardly ever gets caught, it restricts his offense and overall effectiveness. Standing there covering up and not throwing anything back will not win you fights.
Floyd on the other hand uses movement, shoulder rolls to slip punches and fire back right away. His defense allows him to set up own counters, he's never a sitting duck for long periods of time because of this, which is what Clottey is a victim of.
Floyd's D is never a liability unlike Clottey's as far as winning fights.
Floyd's movement alone will reduce Pac's punch output, it will be competitive fight if they ever get it on.
"You don't know shit about boxing"
that's my new reply when ever I see a ridiculous idiotic thread....
Get some new material, prick! Who the hell are you to tell people who you don't even know and have no clue about that they don't know shit about boxing, just because you disagree with their opinion?
Anyone who does this is a sad sack of shit.
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