Pac Fans vs Mayweather Fans, and the best thing about this thread is I'm not about to insult anyone, I'm simply telling it like it is.
The problem we have here is very simple, Mayweather fans are logical and they simply refer to facts to back up any statements they make about Floyd or Pac.
Pac fans are emotional and base their defense of Pacquiao off their emotional attachment to the fighter.
I like both fighters, but I'll be damn if I am emotionally attached to either. I just call it like it is. IMO, Floyd is the best fighter in the world not Pac. Why, cause the way he fights (his skills and ring intelligence) is superior in my opinion. Thats it, plain and simple.
With Drug testing, we have video evidence that Roach asked for more time to prepare for Mayweather, he also said Pac will pass any test, he originally wanted a 3 day cutoff and that somehow got moved to 30!!! These ARE FACTS!! Pac signed to fight Clottey while in the middle of negotiations with Floyd, This is a FACT!! Since when does the guy whose trying to make the fight get accused of ducking?
Pac fans go on an emotional attack about why Floyd even asking for a test anyway, they say he saw what Pac did to Cotto and Hatton and now he's scared!! This, imo, is all emotional opinionated garbage...show me proof that he saw what Pac did to Hatton and he's scared?
Pac fans and his own PR Team love to emphasize that he is from a smaller weight class, fighting bigger fighters, etc...and then when he knocks them out, expects that there should be no questions asked. If he is as small as you claim, and he's knocking out and walking through punches of natural welterweights, then Sh-T!!! He does need to submit to random drug testing!! He does need to prove he's not on PED's.
If a Baseball Player starts breaking home run records he need to prove it was natural. Same for a boxer, no different. Or does the emotional attachment to that particular athlete makes all the difference?
Nahhhhhhh. You are just jealous. Loser!!!!! hahahhahhahahha.
This actually sums it all up, let me make it bigger to make it un-avoidable to read.
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unwilling? pac abides by & has passed all the tests required by his sport's governing body. NOT ONLY THAT, HE AGREES TO EXTRA TESTING THAT HE DOESNT NEED TO TAKE TO SATISFY MAYWEATHER. The only problem is the cutoff date.
Now how come may is 40-0 & he has used the testing that's done by his sport, now all of a sudden he wants extra testing when he's facing pacquiao? why not the other 40 victories? why is he so reluctant to make a fighter with no failed test, no steroid connection, & not a single evidence of steroid use take extra testing?
Well do you think that what Pac has done the past 2 years is amazing and unheard of in the sport? If you answer yes to this question then that is reason enough for him to submit to Olympic drug testing. All I'm saying is Pacquiao is starting to look funny and physically out of proportion, fighters are suspicious, people in the industry are suspicious, fans are suspicious, trainers, etc...Pac needs to pay attention and answer the question, not with God gave me this power but with a random blood and urine test.
unwilling? pac abides by & has passed all the tests required by his sport's governing body. NOT ONLY THAT, HE AGREES TO EXTRA TESTING THAT HE DOESNT NEED TO TAKE TO SATISFY MAYWEATHER. The only problem is the cutoff date.
Now how come may is 40-0 & he has used the testing that's done by his sport, now all of a sudden he wants extra testing when he's facing pacquiao? why not the other 40 victories? why is he so reluctant to make a fighter with no failed test, no steroid connection, & not a single evidence of steroid use take extra testing?
Coming from a guy who has already bragged about Pac being easy work for him, he's acting like he's about to fight Godzilla himself. :thinking:
this guy with the pacquiao roid signature is definitely fair, balanced, & objective.
i hate fuvking pretentious hypocrites like this piece of shit TS.
Dude all I'm saying is that you dont have to be a "flomo" to believe that Pac should of accepted the drug test. Even as I write this they are still asserting that they will not take it. Why is Pac so afraid of drug testing, his unwillingness to do this is upsetting is it not?
I've never read or seen a post like that, thats pretty racist, hopefully that is a rare and extreme case.
I'm just tellin you. There are emotional ppl on either side.
Just because you mostly notice the "emotional" rants from Pac fans, doesn't mean that it's non-existent with Floyd fans.
The post below was from a Floyd fan.
Care to dissect whether he was just stating a fact or was he being emotional like you accuse Pac fans of being?
I could find more examples for you if you like.
I've never read or seen a post like that, thats pretty racist, hopefully that is a rare and extreme case.
I read a lot of posts but I just dont see Floyd fans getting all emotionally wrapped up like these Pac Fans do. For Floyd fans, which I am one, we simply enjoy the entertainment value of what he does. Pac fans act like their whole world is based on Pac doing well. imo, that explains why they are so defensive about PED's, they cant see this as just a standard athletic practice like we do, they are all emotionally shook about it.
The post below was from a Floyd fan.
Care to dissect whether he was just stating a fact or was he being emotional like you accuse Pac fans of being?
Don't ask me. Most Pinoys look like monkeys. They also have strong tree climbing legs. Go get'um tiger!
I could find more examples for you if you like.
admit it... you think asians are only good at kung fu
Actually I associate Kung Fu with China and then that depends on if your talking the traditional Northern or Southern Styles that evolved at Buddhist temples, or do you mean the more popular Hung Gar techniques which flourished throughout the mainland? Or are you referring to Japanese culture and styles developed as part of ancient Bushido Codes of ethics?
Or did you not know that Asia is made up of many countries with different cultures, languages, religion and arts?
No you have not figured it out. What you have basically proved is that you are a flomo.
There are 2 kinds of fans for both fighters
Floyd fans
1. Boxing fans whose favorite is Floyd
2. Flomos
Pac fans
1. Boxing fans whose favorite is Pac
2. Pactards
-- Those at number 1 are level head and will criticize their favorite fighter if they do shit. They also have a healthy respect for either pac or floyd whichever is applicable. They will have a healthy bit of bias in judging who will win but that is understandable. What I meant by healthy is that opposing views is needed for a good discussion but not too much as too stifle the arguments from the other side.
-- Those at number 2 are interchangeable ... just exchange their fave with the other side and. Basically, only the fighter changes but not this type of fans. They are often illogical, emotional, bring up non-boxing stuff like wives, religion, beliefs, etc... Then, they would sugarcoat their opinions as facts. They would tend to be overly aggressive and have this thing called "selective reading/hearing" , which means that they would believe anything article/video that praises/support their guy but turn a deaf ear to any criticism.
Pac being asian has nothing to do with my criticism, saying I love Asians sounds racist in itself, but its true, I love Asian people, history, culture, mythology, religions, architecture, language, film and media, etc...with Pac, its not even that he's asian that come to mind, If I criticize him its because he specifically fights the same style opponent every time, I am a boxing fan and critic, I pay attention to fighters and their styles, not their ethnicity. I want to see Pac face a pure boxer, hell for me it didn't even have to be Mayweather, at one point I would of been happy with Guzman or Raheem. The irony is most pure boxers are Black so maybe thats why "pactards" think this is a racial attack.
admit it... you think asians are only good at kung fu
admit it... you don't understand how an asian man can be this good at boxing without PEDs.
asians are only good at math, kung fu, and cooking... they can't possibly be this good at boxing....
Pac being asian has nothing to do with my criticism, saying I love Asians sounds racist in itself, but its true, I love Asian people, history, culture, mythology, religions, architecture, language, film and media, etc...with Pac, its not even that he's asian that come to mind, If I criticize him its because he specifically fights the same style opponent every time, I am a boxing fan and critic, I pay attention to fighters and their styles, not their ethnicity. I want to see Pac face a pure boxer, hell for me it didn't even have to be Mayweather, at one point I would of been happy with Guzman or Raheem. The irony is most pure boxers are Black so maybe thats why "pactards" think this is a racial attack.
It has NOTHING to do with him being Asian? Manny has more American fans then Shane Mosley.
admit it... you don't understand how an asian man can be this good at boxing without PEDs.
asians are only good at math, kung fu, and cooking... they can't possibly be this good at boxing....
Yeah Don King would've made the fight then everybody's happy. Dang!
Don King would of promoted it well to, even Pac's most dedicated fan has to admit that Arum has done a half azz job with this Clottey fight.
I've saying that ever since i'd joined this forum. We boxing fans have every rights to be suspicious of every Boxers because we don't know who they really are outside of boxing. In my opinion, all Athletes are 50% dirty and 50% clean. You can't say that this athlete is 100% dirty, or that athlete is 100% clean, because you don't know. But you do have to be suspicious, and i hate it when people(Pacfarts and Dan Rafael) says that 100% clean, and no one should be suspicious of him being dirty.
Yeah, not just boxers, but I'm suspicious of all professional athletes. There is too much money to be made to think that athletes won't partake in these substances that they believe will make them better. It's naive and immature to think you know the characters of these people when all that we have access to is their public personas.
I just dont like that people act like Manny is above criticism. Every boxer can be criticized.
I've saying that ever since i'd joined this forum. We boxing fans have every rights to be suspicious of every Boxers because we don't really know who they are outside of boxing. In my opinion, all Athletes are 50% dirty and 50% clean. You can't say that this athlete is 100% dirty, or that athlete is 100% clean, because you don't know. But you do have to be suspicious, and i hate it when people(Pacfarts and Dan Rafael) says that Pac 100% clean, and no one should be suspicious of him being dirty. You have to be at least a little suspicious with all the excuses Team Pac came up with to ducked out of the fight. I don't think that Floyd is 100% clean or 100% dirty, but i do have the right to be suspicious of him.
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