If pacquiao knocks clottey da fux out, floyd will NEVER fight pacquiao...

yeah, judah and baldomir are HOF material I'll take that as your concession as well. You're inability to form a credible rebuttal says all.

and mayweather's best wins are diego corrales 10 years ago and ricky hatton, that is why manny is the ring magazine, associated press, yahoo sports and consensus fighter of the decade and mayweather is not. I'll take that as your concession. You haven't the slightest clue what you're talking about.

Who are these "best" fighters you speak of? Morales: Shot. Coming off loss where he was dominated for 12 rounds by Raheem. Manny Conveniently dodged Raheem. Hatton: By Roach's own admission Hatton wasn't the same after taking a loss to Mayweather. Hatton was coming off a fight where he's been brutalized by Juan Lazcano. DLH: By Roach's own admission, Oscar was shot, dehydrated, weight drained, and no longer desired to fight. Cotto: By Roach's own admission, Cotto was damaged goods and wasn't the same after the beating he took from Margarito. Cotto was coming off a very controversial win over Josh Clottey. How exactly is that the "best" around, and even more, what makes his resume any better than Floyd's? yeah, judah and baldomir are HOF material

floyd sr is scared for his son already

Lahlohonolo Ledwaba: There was no one worth mentioning in the super bantamweight division, and after his loss to Manny, he fought a few fights against nobodies and retired after his loss to Maxwell Awuku. Marquez: He lost nearly every round other than the first to JMM in their first fight, a fight many experts claimed JMM won. His second win over JMM was extremely controversial, and like the first, many people thought JMM won that fight as well. Jorge Solis: Why even mention this. Jorge's biggest fight ever was against Pac, and other than the he hasn't fought anyone worth mentioning. Jorge followed up his loss to Pac with a loss to Cristobal Cruz (38-11-1). Morales: Shot. Coming off loss where he was dominated for 12 rounds by Raheem. Manny Conveniently dodged Raheem. Hatton: By Roach's own admission Hatton wasn't the same after taking a loss to Mayweather. Hatton was coming off a fight where he's been brutalized by Juan Lazcano. DLH: By Roach's own admission, Oscar was shot, dehydrated, weight drained, and no longer desired to fight. Cotto: By Roach's own admission, Cotto was damaged goods and wasn't the same after the beating he took from Margarito. Cotto was coming off a very controversial win over Josh Clottey. Diaz: Pacs best win was over Diaz, who like most people Pac fights, was on the decline. I'll give him credit for that one though. So again, who are all these "best fighters around" Pac fans speak of? and mayweather's best wins are diego corrales 10 years ago and ricky hatton, that is why manny is the ring magazine, associated press, yahoo sports and consensus fighter of the decade and mayweather is not.

good post bro also Morales was clearly having trouble making weight at that point in his career which is why he fought Raheem at 135 lbs if anyone remembers Morales at the weigh in he looked half dead... Thanks. Most Pac fans around these boards know little about the above mentioned fights. Watch as nobody can form a credible and coherent rebuttal.

Roach also said Pac would KO Cotto in 2, he talks his share of shit in case you havent noticed. Everyone pretty much agrees that Cotto hasn't been the same since the Margarito fight. That's not talkin shit, that's stating facts.

pacquiao beat barrera as +795 underdog when barrera was #3 p4p and in their rematch. he beat Lehlohonolo Ledwaba who was 33 - 1 and the #1 ranked Superbantam. he knocked down marquez 4 times and won their last fight. he beat morales 2 out of 3. he destroyed an undefeated Jorge Solis. he destroyed david diaz 34-1 He kicked Oscar and hatton's ass in a much more dominating fashion than mayweather did. Cotto is still a great win, no matter what anyone says. Lahlohonolo Ledwaba: There was no one worth mentioning in the super bantamweight division, and after his loss to Manny, he fought a few fights against nobodies and retired after his loss to Maxwell Awuku. Marquez: He lost nearly every round other than the first to JMM in their first fight, a fight many experts claimed JMM won. His second win over JMM was extremely controversial, and like the first, many people thought JMM won that fight as well. Jorge Solis: Why even mention this. Jorge's biggest fight ever was against Pac, and other than the he hasn't fought anyone worth mentioning. Jorge followed up his loss to Pac with a loss to Cristobal Cruz (38-11-1). Morales: Shot. Coming off loss where he was dominated for 12 rounds by Raheem. Manny Conveniently dodged Raheem. Hatton: By Roach's own admission Hatton wasn't the same after taking a loss to Mayweather. Hatton was coming off a fight where he's been brutalized by Juan Lazcano. DLH: By Roach's own admission, Oscar was shot, dehydrated, weight drained, and no longer desired to fight. Cotto: By Roach's own admission, Cotto was damaged goods and wasn't the same after the beating he took from Margarito. Cotto was coming off a very controversial win over Josh Clottey. Diaz: Pacs best win was over Diaz, who like most people Pac fights, was on the decline. I'll give him credit for that one though. So again, who are all these "best fighters around" Pac fans speak of?

Money talks and Pac brings alot of it to the table.

The only reason Roach(Roach's own words) allowed Pac to fight Cotto is because Cotto was damaged goods, and hadn't been the same since his fight with Margarito. Even though I don't understand why he'd be more wiling to allow Pac to fight Cotto rather than Mosely considering the results of the Cotto vs Mosely fight. Roach also said Pac would KO Cotto in 2, he talks his share of shit in case you havent noticed.

Floyd balls will disconnect voluntarily to his body if this happen.

I think that decision had alot to do with how Pac would fare against a WW....after Cotto...I don't think Roach would have a problem with Pac fighting any WW not named Paul Williams. The only reason Roach(Roach's own words) allowed Pac to fight Cotto is because Cotto was damaged goods, and hadn't been the same since his fight with Margarito. Even though I don't understand why he'd be more wiling to allow Pac to fight Cotto rather than Mosely considering the results of the Cotto vs Mosely fight.

You assume I care who was voted what by subjective and opinionated peoples? I can form my own thoughts and conclusions as I see things through my own eyes. Anyhow, answer the question if you will. pacquiao beat barrera as +795 underdog when barrera was #3 p4p and in their rematch. he beat Lehlohonolo Ledwaba who was 33 - 1 and the #1 ranked Superbantam. he knocked down marquez 4 times and won their last fight. he beat morales 2 out of 3. he destroyed an undefeated Jorge Solis. he destroyed david diaz 34-1 He kicked Oscar and hatton's ass in a much more dominating fashion than mayweather did. Cotto is still a great win, no matter what anyone says.

Why wont Pac fight Mosely? I think that decision had alot to do with how Pac would fare against a WW....after Cotto...I don't think Roach would have a problem with Pac fighting any WW not named Paul Williams.

Without getting into all the retardness this thread is filled with. To answer the TS question, YES. I do believe Fraud will never dare step in the ring with Manny no matter how much money he is offered. Money won't help spare his embarassment loss or the fact that we won't have to go into endless debates about whose better anymore. It will be CASE CLOSED, see u never again Fraud!

If Pac knocks Clottey out, he'll likely never take a drug test!! He'll just fight in Dallas forever

Slightly related, but what do people consider Pacquiao's best win? Barrera or Cotto? I still don't exactly know and haven't gotten a solid answer He's only real credible win was Barrera I and even then...Barrera was on a downslide.

Mayweather is on the same page with the roider Pacquiao---no offense, Oscar, Hatton, Zab Judah, Baldomir---those are some weak ass opponents...you cannot call those true WW contenders...that's BS. Repeat, BS!

Slightly related, but what do people consider Pacquiao's best win? Barrera or Cotto? I still don't exactly know and haven't gotten a solid answer

Ask yourself this, why has pac been voted fighter of the decade AND NOT MAYWEATHER? You assume I care who was voted what by subjective and opinionated peoples? I can form my own thoughts and conclusions as I see things through my own eyes. Anyhow, answer the question if you will.