For years we've been hearing from all of the Floyd haters that he has ducked and was scared of Antonio Margarito. This article proves that Floyd was willing to face Margarito as long as Arum took care of him in future fights against Cotto, Hatton, and De La Hoya. Arum was not willing to meet Floyds requests.
http://www.nowboxing.com/2010/03/mayweather-vs-arum-the-history/8846/
Here is part of the article:
"ARUM SAID while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million.
Arum said Mayweather also asked for $20 million to fight De La Hoya, a fight Arum said he wasn’t interested in participating in.
‘That’s not in the cards,’ Arum said. ‘He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It’s not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold’em and when to fold’em.’”
This proves that the main reason that Floyd didn't take the fight and walked away from Arum is because Arum didn't want to make the De La Hoya fight. He says the money wasn't there against Oscar and Hatton, yet Floyd made over $20 million against each of them. The blame is solely on Arum for that fight never happening. I admit Floyd now cherry picks opponents based on money, not fear, but back then he was willing to take this fight no doubt as long as the money was there in the future.
Floyd's decision was extremely smart and this is why Arum hates him so much and the real reason IMO that the Pacquiao fight did not happen.
You don't think, you just nuthug. Easier to paste it than retype it. Here you go kid:
Floyd shoulda faced Cotto in Spring 08 after he beat Hatton and Cotto beat Shane. He tried to fight DLH again instead, set for fall of 08. Since Floyd made that move, Margarito and Cotto turned to each other in a box off. When the DLH rematch didn't happen, Floyd had nowhere to go but Margarito-Cotto winner or retirement. He chose retirement. He was willing to fight DLH in fall of 08, but he'd rather retire than see who wins Margarito-Cotto then defend against them? That is a fucking duck. Spin it any way you want kid.
Excellent post mate.
Floyd probably didn't duck Margarito. Baldomir was "the man" at the weight.
Marg did punk him though. You CANT deny that.
"You'll get your chance, you'll get your chance." lol
I dont hate on floyd for his accuracy. His low volume and unwillingness to fight is what irks me. Especially when his big mouth roars like he's a lion. A high volume puncher with a sturdy chin and some pop would be hell for floyd.
To hell with the 2006 thing. PBF was correct to choose Baldomir at that time. But the Margarito fight should have happened in 2008. I was disappointed that PBF gave up the championship and walked away.
Pernell,Corey Spinks and Malignanni throw their hands waaaaaaay more than floyd. They were/are pure boxers too.
So if hes good enough to where he can beat you without throwing un called for punches and wasting energy, Why do it? He makes every punch count. Its called ACCURACY.
if manny is more exciting then why does floyd sell more
3 reasons
1)Floyd is an American boxing in America.
2)Floyd has played the villain so well,people cant wait to see him lose!
3)Floyd was never a draw until DLH. HBO 24/7 countdown started with that fight. That gets alot more people to buy his matches.
If floyd/Shane took place in the Phillipines. If Pac/Clottey happened in the Phillipines. who do you think would outsell who?
if manny is more exciting then why does floyd sell more
Shit man, that Q has been answered here, there and everywhere already i don't like going back to it again.
They both can sell and i don't care at all how much they earned as i don''t get a part of that, not even a cent.
ok a better analogy boxing fan is to make him miss make him pay as pactard is to hit him and let him hit me back.... thats better right
Nope, that's a bad one.
I paid for a Mozart CD to enjoy listening to it and make my kid to sleep.
I paid PPV on a boxing event expecting it to be heart pounding with excitement expecially when it's been HYPED UP FOR SEVERAL MONTHS i thought i'm gonna get my money's worth aside from the food and beverages i have to prepare for my guests but alas, it was a total dissapointment!
NEVER AGAIN I'M GONNA BE RIPPED BY A FRAUD!
I got an idea. Since floyd thinks he can make up rules now,I got one for Manny to demand. Floyd must throw 60 punches a round. If he doesnt,he loses the round. Boring your opponent into taking a nap and then potshotting and shoulder rolling is pure crap!!! He doesnt deserve the $$$$$ he makes. At lightweight I tolerated him much easier. He actually used to fight somewhat back then. He did outwrestle and KO Hatton. I give him credit for that. Then again,Ricky was always a punching bag. Hatton's record was inflated by bums from overseas. Castillo took a dive. Kostya was an old man and couldnt wrestle with him. Anyways,thank GOD Hatton is retiring.
He doesnt have to change what he is. It's working for him. However,he IS a bore. Many agree and his fans disagree. It is what it is. I would'nt like Pac if he boxed and shoulder rolled. If you talk like a killer then be a killer. Dont call yourself the greatest ever and not be willing to lay it all on the line in the ring. What floyd does isnt fighting. It's the safest form of boxing I've ever seen. Shoulder rolling and backing away before your opponent has even thrown a punch is pure bullshit!!!
No its pure boxing.
You don't need to in the ring or has tried to box to say it floyd is a bore to watch and potshots, there is enough proof of it even my 5 year old kid sees it knows what it is!
Flomos see it differently though on their god the fraud. :D
well some ppl like to listen to beethovins 9th conducted by karajan and some ppl like to listen to i like big butts by sir mixalot.... i can try to reason with the sir mixalot fan that beethovin is a more skillful musician than mixalot but they will never listen to me. pactards= i like brawlers i can not lie, you flomos cant deny, when pac throws a left, and floors another brawler, they get stunned.... im imagining the pactards making his own rap to i like big butts...
Nice analogy you got there...
Yeah this is usually what i do, if i want my kid get lulled to sleep, i play some classical music like mozart or beethoven and with boxing we did almost fall asleep when we watched floyd's last fight...
Why should Floyd fight in a way that decreases his chances of winning? Do you expect Pac to shoulder roll and box?
He doesnt have to change what he is. It's working for him. However,he IS a bore. Many agree and his fans disagree. It is what it is. I would'nt like Pac if he boxed and shoulder rolled. If you talk like a killer then be a killer. Dont call yourself the greatest ever and not be willing to lay it all on the line in the ring. What floyd does isnt fighting. It's the safest form of boxing I've ever seen. Shoulder rolling and backing away before your opponent has even thrown a punch is pure bullshit!!!
Baldomir and Judah were THE top guys at WW when Floyd arrived. Margarito was coming off of the loss to Daniel Santos, then later he lost the fight to Williams. Mayweather never "ducked" Margarito, Tony was never in a position to expect that fight. He wasnt only lacking the name, he was lacking the standing in the sport.
Thank you.......
He told Marg to his face I'll fight you when its a bigger and better fight. he proceeded to lose to a prospect named Paul Williams. After Mag beat Coto he didnt say Floyds name ONCE.
Baldomir and Judah were THE top guys at WW when Floyd arrived. Margarito was coming off of the loss to Daniel Santos, then later he lost the fight to Williams. Mayweather never "ducked" Margarito, Tony was never in a position to expect that fight. He wasnt only lacking the name, he was lacking the standing in the sport.
Hey Mannie, do you pay attention to floyd when he boxes. He's safety 1st. He throws few punches. He's a bore. It's why he has to ACT like a villain. Me not being a boxer doesnt mean anything. Millions agree with what Im saying. I guarantee most people buy his matches to watch him lose. It's cool with him. He's getting paid. Wouldnt you love to see him attack like Pac/Cotto/Margarito or P-Will does? You know you do. Try reading articles by the various boxing writers. They will say floyd is skilled,and he is,but he hasnt fought the best competition at welter. Hell,other fighters will tell you floyd doesnt fight in the ring. He's just a counter puncher with great defense. I would like to see him let his hands go way more. He has great handspeed. That potshot shit annoys me. With that handspeed he could throw 5-6 punch combos all night. Then again he could get countered and KO'd and he knows it. If Chop-Chop and Judah can buzz you,Mosely can KO him.
Why should Floyd fight in a way that decreases his chances of winning? Do you expect Pac to shoulder roll and box?
Hey Mannie, do you pay attention to floyd when he boxes. He's safety 1st. He throws few punches. He's a bore. It's why he has to ACT like a villain. Me not being a boxer doesnt mean anything. Millions agree with what Im saying. I guarantee most people buy his matches to watch him lose. It's cool with him. He's getting paid. Wouldnt you love to see him attack like Pac/Cotto/Margarito or P-Will does? You know you do. Try reading articles by the various boxing writers. They will say floyd is skilled,and he is,but he hasnt fought the best competition at welter. Hell,other fighters will tell you floyd doesnt fight in the ring. He's just a counter puncher with great defense. I would like to see him let his hands go way more. He has great handspeed. That potshot shit annoys me. With that handspeed he could throw 5-6 punch combos all night. Then again he could get countered and KO'd and he knows it. If Chop-Chop and Judah can buzz you,Mosely can KO him.
seriously? have you ever even tried boxing training? all you pactards that say floyd is borring and runs and just pot shots have clearly never been in a boxing gym. seriously man
You don't need to in the ring or has tried to box to say it floyd is a bore to watch and potshots, there is enough proof of it even my 5 year old kid sees it knows what it is!
Flomos see it differently though on their god the fraud. :D
yeah the true boxing fans already knew this..and ill say it again..I remember when Cotto sat ringside/and was supposed to face the Gatti/May winner..and opted out after the outcome..honestly I dont think Cotto was ready then..can you imagine Cotto facing a hungry Mayweather, pre DLH...not good for Cotto
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