Obviously Floyd Is On P.E.D.

it is contradicting because the mayweathers and their fans cant believe pac KOed cotto, hatton and dela hoya without using peds, but on the other hand they will say pac cherry picked them because they are shot or dehydrated. Simple logic.. (i hope you get it coz its sooo easy to undersand) Why are they accusing pac of being "Extraordinary" or in peds? If mayweathers think Oscar, Hatton and Cotto are beatable, dehydrated and shot. They are accusing him being superman but at the same time they belittle his opponents. I think there's nothing extraordinary from those fights. Oscar and hatton didnt land a power shot.. Cotto landed, but those arent critical shots, pac was expecting those shots that hit him, he wants and ready to get hit, There's a big difference between those shots that dazzled or KO'ed pac from those that hit him in WW. I tell you this, there's nothing "extraordinary" about pac, if he gets caught by clottey the way he got wobbled by marquez, Knockdowned by Hussein, KOed by torrecampo, pac will go down. You just cant accept the fact that pac is a better boxer now, his style was improved. he didnt become superman. I still disagree-it is very possible for someone to "cherry pick" and be doped up for even more leverage and good measure.Now,I am not accusing Manny of being doped up-I am merely saying,it IS possible if a fighter wanted to...

106 to 147....he never actually went above 150...... also he has declined in all physical apects moving up in weight...speed and power (realtive to the division.....he had more power at 130 and 35 than he does at 147) Pac 106 to 147 - increase power - increase speed - increase punch resistance i could believe it except he turned down a guaranteed $25 mil payday......that was a guaranteed cut......the likely amt would have been $40 to $50 mil after PPV sales...... This is what its all about.

He is on steroids 100%,his familly have huge huge history of using drugs. Now he is doing this bullshit with OST and that shit is garbage. Look at Marion Jones,she pass all OST,and she was steroid freak. Nobody is buying that story that Floyd is drug crusader,thats like Pablo Escobar Jr. is teaching people how he wants to clean world from drugs. shit just doesnt make sense huh? believing floyds crackhead ass family full of clucks?! damn, wtf is goin on here?!

obviously there's nothing wrong about mayweather and pac fighting in WW. there's nothing unbelievable in that. http://www.healthchecksystems.com/heightweightchart.htm with their age and height they are physically fit at that weight. Boxers often weigh lower than the average to take advantage of their height. (Donaire, Juanma etc.) So those haters saying that pac and floyd cant fight and "Unbelievably" dominating the WW division, and only peds made it possible are f**ckn retards. Pac and Floyd probably weigh only 2 or 3 lbs above their weigh in weight and thats normal. If there's any suplements pac is taking i believe it is growth supplements, mades his upper body a larger frame. I dont know if its illegal. Its obvious, pac grew.

How is it NOT possible to be "picking" opponents and having other "hidden" advantages? This does not contradict itself...I am more prone to believing he chose his opponents,but his team and his refusal to Floyd's request just plain looks bad. I would personally (as well as many boxing fans) rather him test clean to Floyd's single demand,and fight him in the ring instead of bring lawyers into the mix (who do not even specialize in defamation/libel) to prove the accusations "false"...and walk away from a fight that most fighters would beg to be involved in. It is funny,because when fighters are young in their careers they are willing to do anything,call out anyone,etc to prove they are the best (within fair play).Today's times seem different for some. it is contradicting because the mayweathers and their fans cant believe pac KOed cotto, hatton and dela hoya without using peds, but on the other hand they will say pac cherry picked them because they are shot or dehydrated. Simple logic.. (i hope you get it coz its sooo easy to undersand) Why are they accusing pac of being "Extraordinary" or in peds? If mayweathers think Oscar, Hatton and Cotto are beatable, dehydrated and shot. They are accusing him being superman but at the same time they belittle his opponents. I think there's nothing extraordinary from those fights. Oscar and hatton didnt land a power shot.. Cotto landed, but those arent critical shots, pac was expecting those shots that hit him, he wants and ready to get hit, There's a big difference between those shots that dazzled or KO'ed pac from those that hit him in WW. I tell you this, there's nothing "extraordinary" about pac, if he gets caught by clottey the way he got wobbled by marquez, Knockdowned by Hussein, KOed by torrecampo, pac will go down. You just cant accept the fact that pac is a better boxer now, his style was improved. he didnt become superman.

Yea I have suspicion that Floyd was using PEDs when he was on vacation to heal and rejuvenate his body. yeah he was roiding, tell all your friends.

Yea I have suspicion that Floyd was using PEDs when he was on vacation to heal and rejuvenate his body.

lol, Floyd, his fans and haters think pac is dirty because he is knocking down bigger and tougher opponents, they also think pac is cherry picking and fighting old, dehydrated and shot boxers which is contradicts the first statement. Please be consistent with you arguments so others MIGHT believe you. Yes, pac might be on peds coz he didnt undergo FRBT(floyds random blood testing) but if thats the argument, i will also say everyone in boxing that didnt undergo FRBT might be on peds. Singleing out pac will be hating my friends. Im for random blood testing or any test that protects the safety of boxers, but use it to discredit a single fighter is pointless. How is it NOT possible to be "picking" opponents and having other "hidden" advantages? This does not contradict itself...I am more prone to believing he chose his opponents,but his team and his refusal to Floyd's request just plain looks bad. I would personally (as well as many boxing fans) rather him test clean to Floyd's single demand,and fight him in the ring instead of bring lawyers into the mix (who do not even specialize in defamation/libel) to prove the accusations "false"...and walk away from a fight that most fighters would beg to be involved in. It is funny,because when fighters are young in their careers they are willing to do anything,call out anyone,etc to prove they are the best (within fair play).Today's times seem different for some.

I do not believe Floyd weighed in at 154 even for the Oscar fight.I also believe that Floyd's weight progression was much more gradual than Pacquiao's.Pacquiao was moving up in different weight-divisions in most of his last fights. Nearly all of boxers who do this will lose assets such as strength, speed, etc-yet Manny's has appeared to remain the same. Combine this with a refusal and resistance towards Floyd's request and all of the weird excuses that come from Manny and his team (about taking on Floyd's request),and it raises suspicions to a lot of people more than otherwise.Throwing a fight in Texas,where drug testing isn't mandatory does nothing credible for his stance either...it all looks strange. Now this doesn't mean Manny is on drugs-I personally think it has more to do with picking opponents based on their styles ,weaknesses and meshing well in Manny's favour.

lol, Floyd, his fans and haters think pac is dirty because he is knocking down bigger and tougher opponents, they also think pac is cherry picking and fighting old, dehydrated and shot boxers which is contradicts the first statement. Please be consistent with you arguments so others MIGHT believe you. Yes, pac might be on peds coz he didnt undergo FRBT(floyds random blood testing) but if thats the argument, i will also say everyone in boxing that didnt undergo FRBT might be on peds. Singleing out pac will be hating my friends. Im for random blood testing or any test that protects the safety of boxers, but use it to discredit a single fighter is pointless.

jro don't be one of these fans who hides behind a commission that has absolutely no interest in fighter health and safety.....their testing standards and procedures have been proven beyond doubt to be a joke and they have no intention of changing that either.......their lack of authority on this issue is a moral failing, as it is a moral failing to hide behind commission rules.......this is the same state commission that gave Evander Holyfield a license to fight........... come to light jro.. dont go into the darkk...

But, that is all they do in Nevada also right? jro don't be one of these fans who hides behind a commission that has absolutely no interest in fighter health and safety.....their testing standards and procedures have been proven beyond doubt to be a joke and they have no intention of changing that either.......their lack of authority on this issue is a moral failing, as it is a moral failing to hide behind commission rules.......this is the same state commission that gave Evander Holyfield a license to fight...........

Floyd from 106 to 154 and as he's gone up he has lost speed and power. Not the opposite. and wins over hoya right??

Yeah nevada requires urion only. Exactly, Pac is going to the same test for this fight that he would in Nevada. So lets stop this whole conspiracy theory fo why he is fighting in Texas. Especially since he fought his last three fights in Nevada.

Your missing the point cuz you choose to.....smh..... It's called denial which is ok because we have no proof but to act like you don't know what our arguments are is ridiculous you've been here to long for that shit. i really believe floyd is not on anything. that's my belief. this thread was to point out how stupid and baseless floyd and others accusations are.

except for the fact it is no longer basseless: - increase power - increase speed - increase punch resistance - refuse a 40 mil drug test and a chance at absolute boxing immortality..... so really is floyd's beleif baseless now....??? it may have been baseless when he made it initially but a case to say that he has justification.... + After refusing OST he fights in a state where he won't be tested at all. lol thats you guys opinion on that. i mean i believe floyd has carried speed and power up to where he's at right now, but i really dont believe he's on anything. i just think it's ridiculous you guys base it on the fact that pac carried the same thing up to his weight, so he has to be on p.e.d.

Only piss tested according to Pac himself on Jimmy Kemmel But, that is all they do in Nevada also right?

+ After refusing OST he fights in a state where he won't be tested at all. Is he not going to be tested by the WBO after the fight like they do in Nevada?

+ After refusing OST he fights in a state where he won't be tested at all. exactly......not so "baseless" anymore!!!!

except for the fact it is no longer basseless: - increase power - increase speed - increase punch resistance - refuse a 40 mil drug test and a chance at absolute boxing immortality..... so really is floyd's beleif baseless now....??? it may have been baseless when he made it initially but a case to say that he has justification.... + After refusing OST he fights in a state where he won't be tested at all.