I just want to know if you guys think the fight will actually happen. I think so. Either Mayweather or Pacquiao will give in to pressure from the boxing and sports media. I say after their fights with Clottey and Mosley (if they get by them). They may fight someone else after that if negotiations fall through again, but I think it will inevitably happen by next year.
Maybe I have false hope. But if the fight doesn't come through, I will lose respect for Pacquiao, Mayweather, and boxing in general. I will always be a boxing fan, but having the 2 top boxers of this era in their prime and in the same weight class not fight each other is just uncalled for. This would never happen in most other sports besides boxing. I just want to see the damn fight happen.
It'd be great if it happens, not just for both of their legacies, but for the whole of boxing. However, I think it won't happen. Since negotiations failed last time and they both signed up for new fights, the negotiations are back at the beginning, but will now have different demands etc. When (most likely) Mayweather out sells Pac in the upcoming PPV fights, Mayweather will want the bigger share and as Pac has a big ego (They both do) he will want a equal share, so that's now a even bigger problem, and it will take forever to sort out, even though whatever the split, they will both have their biggest payday.
And then you come onto the random blood testing. Mayweather from recent interviews now wants it up to the day of the fight, and I don't know whether Pac will accept or what deadline he will accept. And Mayweather probably won't drop it, so then this is another huge problem.
Well there's 2 big problems, and I wouldn't be surprised if they managed to come up with another road block in the negotiations. So if you look it like this, then it seems unlikely. But stranger things have happened, and they both love money, so maybe they will work it out. I hope they do!
I totally. I see money being a much bigger issue this time around. IMO Mayweather will outsell Pac and will want more money. Here's a possible scenerio, May gets more ppvs on a snoozefest, Pac gets less while engaging in a war. May bring more money, Pac brings more excitement, they wont be able to agree on a split.
Also like you say May's talking about OST up to the day, he wont drop that so it's on Pac. I'd sell my left nut for this fight to happen, but I don't see it getting any eaiser to make down the line.
It'd be great if it happens, not just for both of their legacies, but for the whole of boxing. However, I think it won't happen. Since negotiations failed last time and they both signed up for new fights, the negotiations are back at the beginning, but will now have different demands etc. When (most likely) Mayweather out sells Pac in the upcoming PPV fights, Mayweather will want the bigger share and as Pac has a big ego (They both do) he will want a equal share, so that's now a even bigger problem, and it will take forever to sort out, even though whatever the split, they will both have their biggest payday.
And then you come onto the random blood testing. Mayweather from recent interviews now wants it up to the day of the fight, and I don't know whether Pac will accept or what deadline he will accept. And Mayweather probably won't drop it, so then this is another huge problem.
Well there's 2 big problems, and I wouldn't be surprised if they managed to come up with another road block in the negotiations. So if you look it like this, then it seems unlikely. But stranger things have happened, and they both love money, so maybe they will work it out. I hope they do!
I think the fight will happen. Or maybe I am just being delusional because I want to see the fight so bad.
I think I feel the same. It's like being a kid on Christmas and wanting a toy so bad that you can't imagine not getting it. Whether you get it or not is a different story.
There is no way that fight won't happen. they just wanted to make it bigger and a fight in between to hype this fight would only help. Pac-Clottey aint a prob. but Mosley-May is a bit problematic. Not because May will lose but because Mosley could make May look bad
I don't think this fight will happen. Too much risk for floyd to accept. Plus the fact that pac said, he doesn't need floyd and he is already satisfied to his achievements (pac is already a billionaire in the philippines) and he is ready to retire after the clottey fight if floyd insisted his own drug test standard.
That's the thing, it doesn't matter who wins, there will always be haters from both ends, so we're back to square one. The egoes from both fighters are just too strong that both are already making excuses: Floyd talking about getting more share if he beats Pac in PPV, and Pac already talking about not needing Floyd.
Perhaps the only way these two will fight is if both loses their upcoming fight.
You have a point. But I think both guys have more to lose if they don't fight each other. There will always be a question mark on both fighter's careers. I also think there will a public backlash towards both of them.
They do have huge egos and I am sure they both believe the other guy needs the other more. If one of them loses, I think the fight will definitely not happen. Pac won't have much to prove if Mosley beat Mayweather. If Clottey beats Pac, he (Pac) loses some marketability and Mayweather won't make as much money fighting him unless he asks for an even bigger share, which Pac and Arum would never agree to.
I disagree. Sure Pac has a legacy now, but he would easily be in top 10 greatest of all time if he beat Mayweather. He has more to lose than Mayweather, but think about it like this. If Pac beats Mayweather, what can the critics and Pac haters say after that? Same thing if Mayweather beats Pac. There will always be haters, but criticism will be nothing more than subjective and not have much of a foundation anymore.
There would less talk of Mayweather being an overrated ducker if he wins. And if Pac wins, no more talk of him avoiding slick, African-American fighters, fighting older guys, etc. Plus the steroid BS would be put to rest, win or lose.
That's the thing, it doesn't matter who wins, there will always be haters from both ends, so we're back to square one. The egoes from both fighters are just too strong that both are already making excuses: Floyd talking about getting more share if he beats Pac in PPV, and Pac already talking about not needing Floyd.
Perhaps the only way these two will fight is if both loses their upcoming fight.
I only think it will happen if PBF sees some kind of deterioration in Pacs performance.
So if Pac fights on long enough to dip slightly, PBF will be right in there, even without olympic testing. PBF just needs to see Pac lose a little ability before he wants any of it.
Like I stated before, Pac has little to gain fighting Floyd but everything to lose.
He's already an established fighter, set legacy, already wealthy from previous fights plus Mcdonald & Nike sponsorships, and like Pac said himself-he doesn't need Floyd.
If he fights Floyd and lose convincingly, that will ruin his rep and tarnish his legacy, so why take a risk? He's running for Congress, so that could be a good time to retire.
I disagree. Sure Pac has a legacy now, but he would easily be in top 10 greatest of all time if he beat Mayweather. He has more to lose than Mayweather, but think about it like this. If Pac beats Mayweather, what can the critics and Pac haters say after that? Same thing if Mayweather beats Pac. There will always be haters, but criticism will be nothing more than subjective and not have much of a foundation anymore.
There would less talk of Mayweather being an overrated ducker if he wins. And if Pac wins, no more talk of him avoiding slick, African-American fighters, fighting older guys, etc. Plus the steroid BS would be put to rest, win or lose.
so you don't want the fight to happen because you don't want him to lose. lmao....
You're crazy, of course I'm Dying to see them fight!! I wanna see who's better.
When I say Pac taking risk...I'll give you an example: Let's say he lost, convincingly, then FLoyd still continue talking crap telling fans that Pac was overhype all these times, and it was prob of roids that he beat previous oponents..that can tarnish Pac's accomplishments and critics can questioning Pac. Yeah, I'm stretching it, but hey anything can happen right?
Sure I'd love them to fight, I don't care who wins, I like both fighters. All I'm sayings is that Pac (or even Floyd) doesn't care about what we fans want, and only what they want. Otherwise he would've taken the OST already.
Like I stated before, Pac has little to gain fighting Floyd but everything to lose.
He's already an established fighter, set legacy, already wealthy from previous fights plus Mcdonald & Nike sponsorships, and like Pac said himself-he doesn't need Floyd.
If he fights Floyd and lose convincingly, that will ruin his rep and tarnish his legacy, so why take a risk? He's running for Congress, so that could be a good time to retire.
so you don't want the fight to happen because you don't want him to lose. lmao....
Hell no!
Like I stated before, Pac has little to gain fighting Floyd but everything to lose.
He's already an established fighter, set legacy, already wealthy from previous fights plus Mcdonald & Nike sponsorships, and like Pac said himself-he doesn't need Floyd.
If he fights Floyd and lose convincingly, that will ruin his rep and tarnish his legacy, so why take a risk? He's running for Congress, so that could be a good time to retire.
I Hope.. But you have to realize that they when they start negotiations it's back to square one. Money split(which I think will be a big problem next time), the drug testing etc.. The future looks bleak right now.
TOOOOOOOO MUCH MONEY TO BE MADE FOR IT NOTTTT TOO HAPPEN. I know your gonna say Jones Jr. Hopkins but that fight wouldn't have made nearly as much as this one.
I agree. Jones vs. Hopkins rematch would have been huge in the early 2000s, but no where near as big as this fight. Plus, Hopkins and Jones already fought and they were about 2 weight divisions apart at the time. And they couldn't agree when it came to the money split.